News: ESPN: Deep balls to Dez have been duds

[big dog cowboy]

Not Romo's fault... Dez is just too fast on game day.

What? That makes NO sense.

 

[blackbull]

But I thought Dez didn't get any separation? Is that punch line dead now or do the haters want to continue looking dumb?

 

[TrailBlazer]

Yeah, we wasted his career, Tony had nothing at all to do with wasting his own career.

Tony had a big part in his failures. But I believe if Sean Payton had been our coach all these years, he would've had some playoff success at least.

 

[slomoxn]

But but...at least he doesn't have 25 interceptions like the two time super bowl winning Eli Manning so it's all good.

...... Did I miss the part of the article that referred to another teams quarterback?

 

[The Natural]

But I thought Dez didn't get any separation? Is that punch line dead now or do the haters want to continue looking dumb?

ahahaha

 

[Sarge]

He's always been so-so on deep balls, but I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything having to do with arm strength.

Well, it if isn't his arm strength, it's his accuracy. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter which.....he can't throw the deep ball well - period.

 

[mahoneybill]

Deep ball passing isn't really about arm strength. It's much more about getting the ball to 'launch' high enough at the release point. Quincy Carter didn't have a strong arm, but he could throw a good deep pass.

Where I see issues with arm strength is usually on hitch routes and out patterns. You really have to put some mustard on those. This is where I see Romo's arm strength decline. I've seen him throw across the field from the opposite hash mark and it takes forever to get the receiver.

That's what largely concerns me about Romo's age, we are seeing arm strength and accuracy issues.




YR

Throw 40 -50 times a game in a season and no wonder his arm strength is affected. I would have to assume that there is a residual soreness that carries over from wk to wk , and
game to game. Sort of like tennis elbow. One can play, but it does have an effect on the game and other normal activites

 

[juck]

He had it with TO cause he chucked it a lot to him. His arm is defo weaker

 

[percyhoward]

Seemed fishy right off. First thing I asked myself was, "how does a top 10-rated passer throw such a bad deep ball?" Then I looked more closely at the title, and asked myself, why did Timmy Mac call it "deep balls to Dez" specifically, instead of just "deep balls?" Here's why...

Romo's passes of 20+ yards in the air
to Dez
4 of 19 198 yd 0 td 1 int 48.6
to everyone else
14 of 32 402 yd 7 td 0 int 130.2

 

[percyhoward]

Tony never had a great deep ball arm but this yr its absolutely atrocious.

MacMahon's highly misleading article assumes we're all too lazy to look up the facts for ourselves.

Romo's throws of 20+ yards in the air
2013: 18 of 51 35.3% 599 yd 11.7 ypa 7 td 1 int 111.8
2012: 22 of 70 31.4% 823 yd 11.8 ypa 9 td 5 int 87.1
2011: 32 of 61 52.5% 1166 yd 19.1 ypa 13 td 2 int 123.8
2009: 16 of 45 35.6% 585 yd 13.0 ypa 6 td 2 int 104.9
2008: 21 of 59 35.6% 826 yd 14.0 ypa 8 td 3 int 102.2

 

[Next Years Champ]

Tony never had a great deep ball arm but this yr its absolutely atrocious.

He can't throw deep.

I've pretty much known that early on.

Especially since his injuries a few years back when he missed a bunch of starts.

He trys but its usually incomplete, intercepted or infrequently caught.

He just doesn't. win anymore.

 

[percyhoward]

I think, more than anything, Tony is just trying to be safe with the football, even when he's going downfield. Coverage is underneath, he's going way over the top. Coverage is step for step, he's putting the ball where only the WR has a chance.

He's always been so-so on deep balls, but I don't think its necessarily indicative of anything having to do with arm strength.

This is a good post.

There's nothing about arm strength or mechanics that would only affect throws to one receiver.

 

[Fletch]

Deep ball passing isn't really about arm strength. It's much more about getting the ball to 'launch' high enough at the release point. Quincy Carter didn't have a strong arm, but he could throw a good deep pass.

Where I see issues with arm strength is usually on hitch routes and out patterns. You really have to put some mustard on those. This is where I see Romo's arm strength decline. I've seen him throw across the field from the opposite hash mark and it takes forever to get the receiver.

That's what largely concerns me about Romo's age, we are seeing arm strength and accuracy issues.




YR

We'd be dumb to not draft a QB next year. No more practice squad scrubs or 4th round projects. Hoping for the Stephen McGee's and Alex Tanney's of the world to suddenly become the next Romo 2.0 doesn't seem likely. That kid out of Michigan State is a guy I wouldn't mind taking in the 3rd.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

I've been saying this for quite some time. It hasn't looked the same since 2011. Even last year his deep ball was off.

So gone are these days...man this was beautiful

 

[Risen Star]

Tony never had a great deep ball arm but this yr its absolutely atrocious.

Agreed. He's really struggling there.

 

[diehard2294]

Agreed. He's really struggling there.

I agree blood brother

 

[Yakuza Rich]

We'd be dumb to not draft a QB next year. No more practice squad scrubs or 4th round projects. Hoping for the Stephen McGee's and Alex Tanney's of the world to suddenly become the next Romo 2.0 doesn't seem likely. That kid out of Michigan State is a guy I wouldn't mind taking in the 3rd.

I think we’ll need to go higher than the 3rd round. Here’s a look at the quality QB’s in the league and the round they were drafted:


Brady (6th)

Tannehill (1st)

Roethlisberger (1st)

Flacco (1st)

Dalton (1st)

Luck (1st)

Schaub (4th)

Alex Smith (1st)

Peyton (1st)

Rivers (1st)

Eli (1st)

Romo (UDFA)

Foles (3rd – and still questionable as a ‘quality QB’)

Cutler (1st)

Stafford (1st)

Rodgers (1st)

Brees (2nd)

Ryan (1st)

Newton (1st)

Wilson (3rd)

Kaepernick (2nd)

Palmer (1st)


To me, we need to look at something in the first. I would love to trade Claiborne for an extra 1st rounder and draft in the 1st round, sit the rookie out for a year and have the rookie ready if we need him in 2015. I’m sure that will cause some problems for 2014 given the needs on defense. But, the QB position is so essential that if we take a hit in the short term to get better a couple of years down the road it would be worth it.






YR

 

[Nightman]

Seemed fishy right off. First thing I asked myself was, "how does a top 10-rated passer throw such a bad deep ball?" Then I looked more closely at the title, and asked myself, why did Timmy Mac call it "deep balls to Dez" specifically, instead of just "deep balls?" Here's why...
Romo's passes of 20+ yards in the air
to Dez
4 of 19 198 yd 0 td 1 int 48.6
to everyone else
14 of 32 402 yd 7 td 0 int 130.2

I think that Romo has tried to force the ball to Dez on many of those throws even though he was covered. He trusts Dez to fight for the ball and make a big play out of nothing.

 

[johnson2]

wow this post says it all for the guys preaching how his arm is shot.... any idea how this compares to other qb's? i always thought brees and peyton had the best deep balls

MacMahon's highly misleading article assumes we're all too lazy to look up the facts for ourselves.

Romo's passes of 20+ yards in the air

to Dez
4 of 19 198 yd 0 td 1 int 48.6

to everyone else
14 of 32 402 yd 7 td 0 int 130.2

Romo's throws of 20+ yards in the air
2013: 18 of 51 35.3% 599 yd 11.7 ypa 7 td 1 int 111.8
2012: 22 of 70 31.4% 823 yd 11.8 ypa 9 td 5 int 87.1
2011: 32 of 61 52.5% 1166 yd 19.1 ypa 13 td 2 int 123.8
2009: 16 of 45 35.6% 585 yd 13.0 ypa 6 td 2 int 104.9
2008: 21 of 59 35.6% 826 yd 14.0 ypa 8 td 3 int 102.2

romo has had a few misses to dez but dez has dropped a few that have hit his hands too, maybe not in stride but going up for the ball on jump balls like jeffries or megatron get a few of every game. i nearly love dez more than anyone on the team right now but i do wish he'd be stronger bringing jump balls down sometimes.

 

[Fansince64]

Seemed fishy right off. First thing I asked myself was, "how does a top 10-rated passer throw such a bad deep ball?" Then I looked more closely at the title, and asked myself, why did Timmy Mac call it "deep balls to Dez" specifically, instead of just "deep balls?" Here's why...
Romo's passes of 20+ yards in the air
to Dez
4 of 19 198 yd 0 td 1 int 48.6
to everyone else
14 of 32 402 yd 7 td 0 int 130.2

Interesting that when you bring objective evidence into an agenda driven (both pro and con) debate all you hear in reply is crickets.


Monte Sliger