ESPN Experts Agree

[brokeback]

Green's as good as his pass protection. He can pick a team apart when his line is healthy, but he doesn't have the athletic ability or arm strength to win games when the defense gets penetration.
In the last 4 years, I don't remember a single game in which our healthy O-line hasn't dominated.
I'm a huge believer in the idea that offenses don't need elite skill players. I'd much rather have a dominant O-line and average skill players.

 

[TunaFan33]

Green's as good as his pass protection. He can pick a team apart when his line is healthy, but he doesn't have the athletic ability or arm strength to win games when the defense gets penetration.
In the last 4 years, I don't remember a single game in which our healthy O-line hasn't dominated.
I'm a huge believer in the idea that offenses don't need elite skill players. I'd much rather have a dominant O-line and average skill players.

Agreed-the game is won in the trenches. Parcells' Giants team really didn't have any speed at WR, but they had a big, nasty OL. The Iggles' problems this year stemmed from their porous OL-otherwise, their receivers, QB, and RB have so many skilled talents you can poke holes through, but none of them could do anything with this line.

The LT position is still the most important one, nonetheless. That Philly/KC game was televised in my area. Frankly-Philly didn't get a whole lot of pressure. But with Roaf out, Green looked pretty tentative and somehow insecure out there. That INT he threw to Sheldon Brown-he didn't check off the other receivers, and all but looked like he was worried about pressure from that blind side at the same time. Otherwise, without that score, Philly wouldn't have had any kind of momentum for the rest of the game.

BTW-everyone on ESPN are idiots. They went on on on(during Roaf's injury, that is) how Gonzales was underperforming. Now that Roaf's healthy, all of a sudden they're realizing Gonzales is lighting it up.

When Flo was healthy, Jason Witten was able to go out for passes 90% of the time. Now, he's helping Tucker most of the time.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's KC over DAL

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent

Commence bashing...

By the way, based on their records picking the games, the odds of them going 0-3 on games is 3.7%. That's about 1 in 27.

Give me a HUGE break. Everybody knows Joe hates the 'Boys. Everybody knows Jaws loves the Chefs. When only 3 of 8 are picking and there is no way 2 of those 3 will be picking the Cowboys, it only makes me

 

[brokeback]

Don't worry. Hoge, Allen, and Schlereth will pick Dallas. Allen was a Raider and I have never seen him pick the Chiefs. Schlereth was a Bronco and ditto. Hoge just always bags on the Chiefs. I don't really know why.

 

[vicjagger]

That does it, no need to watch the game then.

Watch it, why even PLAY it?

 

[Mansta54]

"Brokeback" you never answered my question. I asked you if KC ever won anything big? How many SB rings do they own? How many times have they appeared in the SB and I'm not talking about back in yesteryear when they wore leather helmets with no facemask. Again, WHAT HAVE THEY WON??????

 

[Uh-Oh]

I'll be back to gloat or take my medicine. It's bad form to troll only after a win or only before a loss.

Then you're a better man than me. Except I never troll.

 

[AdamJT13]

It's KC over DAL

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent

Commence bashing...

By the way, based on their records picking the games, the odds of them going 0-3 on games is 3.7%. That's about 1 in 27.

You're not very good at math, are you?

The three guys that picked all picked one team to win one game. Simply based on their records, there's a 36.3 percent chance that they'll be wrong. But that percentage is based on lots of obvious picks, when one team clearly is better. If you examined their records in games between nearly equal teams -- such as the 8-4 Chiefs as underdogs on the road against the 7-5 Cowboys -- it's probably closer to 50 percent or worse. Last week, for example, out of four such games, they went a combined 6-6. They all picked the same team in two games. One of those won by seven points. The other one lost by 18.

 

[Uh-Oh]

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have posted it had they picked the Cowboys.

Do Chiefs fans also have a low opinion of Theisman?

 

[brokeback]

"Brokeback" you never answered my question. I asked you if KC ever won anything big? How many SB rings do they own? How many times have they appeared in the SB and I'm not talking about back in yesteryear when they wore leather helmets with no facemask. Again, WHAT HAVE THEY WON??????

I'm pretty sure I told you they've been in the SB twice and won one. If you want to talk about recent times, let's discuss what the Cowboys have done in the last decade.

 

[Jimz31]

I seem to remember when the crew on MNF keep all picking the same team to win and were wrong for a few weeks in a row.

 

[brokeback]

You're not very good at math, are you?

The three guys that picked all picked one team to win one game. Simply based on their records, there's a 36.3 percent chance that they'll be wrong. But that percentage is based on lots of obvious picks, when one team clearly is better. If you examined their records in games between nearly equal teams -- such as the 8-4 Chiefs as underdogs on the road against the 7-5 Cowboys -- it's probably closer to 50 percent or worse. Last week, for example, out of four such games, they went a combined 6-6. They all picked the same team in two games. One of those won by seven points. The other one lost by 18.

Actually, I'm incredibly good at math. In fact, I had a perfect math score on the SAT back in the day. (No, I don't expect you to believe me, but it's true.) I admit I'm using very questionable methods to come up with the 1 in 27 stat, but the math is sound.
All I've said is that they're wrong approx 1/3 of the time. If you randomly choose 3 of their collective historical picks, there is approximately a 1 in 27 chance of them all being wrong.
That said, I know I'm very conveniently manipulating the stats here. Lighten up.

 

[Mansta54]

I'm pretty sure I told you they've been in the SB twice and won one. If you want to talk about recent times, let's discuss what the Cowboys have done in the last decade.

Recent or past, KC history will never be as RICH as the BOYZ. 5 SB rings and a ton of appearences. Named "AMERICA'S TEAM", our fan base probably TRIPLES KC's. By the way, what SB was it that you won, I'm curious?

 

[brokeback]

Do Chiefs fans also have a low opinion of Theisman?

Yes, but he seems to be unusually insightful with this particular pick.

 

[jbsg02]

after watching our last 2 games i'd pick KC too.

 

[Mansta54]

after watching our last 2 games i'd pick KC too.

Why?? We played great ball at home against Denver. We stunk up the joint at the Giants but being home makes a world of difference...

 

[brokeback]

Recent or past, KC history will never be as RICH as the BOYZ. 5 SB rings and a ton of appearences. Named "AMERICA'S TEAM", our fan base probably TRIPLES KC's. By the way, what SB was it that you won, I'm curious?

Congratulations if that makes you feel cool. A bunch of people you'll never meet cheer for a bunch of people who couldn't care less about you. It's fun to cheer for your team, but anyone can cheer for any team. It doesn't make a Colts fan any cooler than a Texans fan.
The Chiefs, as I posted earlier, won Superbowl IV against the Vikings. They lost Superbowl I against the Packers. I don't fondle myself at night thinking about how great we were in decades past, though. Maybe I should start.

 

[brokeback]

Why?? We played great ball at home against Denver. We stunk up the joint at the Giants but being home makes a world of difference...

If you can play a great game at home and still lose to Denver, you don't belong in the playoffs.

 

[Mansta54]

Maybe you should, that may help to relieve the pain. There has to be pain considering you haven't even sniffed a SB since, ahhhhhhh, well I don't know when. Its been a loooooooooooooooooong time since KC has won or done anything..

 

[Uh-Oh]

Yes, but he seems to be unusually insightful with this particular pick.

The "Yes" is all I wanted to hear. I wonder which other fans also thinks Theisman's a clown...