ESPN: How Dallas Almost Missed on Dak, over and over

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Jerry haters are about to watch him not only get into the Hall in Jan., but probably win NFL Exec of the Year for the second time in 3 years as voted on by his peer owners. Jesus, if we win anything on the field, might be time for a sports suicide hotline to be pinned here.


If after twenty years of GM ineptitude and team mediocrity...if we get something to celebrate that would be awesome! I'll be celebrating for the players and coaches and other fans.

I'm sure Jones gets into the HOF this summer or next. Rich people take good care of each other and Jerry has helped the other owners make a lot of money.

I'll probably tune in and watch his induction speed to see all the Cowboy players and I'll probably chuckle at his jokes. Jones makes things interesting I'll give him that.

As for giving him credit for landing Romo or Dak.... no. He didn't have a clue what he was getting either time.
 

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Then why did they say they were targeting Lynch? Jerry was open about the deal they offered and that he regretted it didn't come together, why would it be different with Cook?

Unless the goal is just to rip on the team.

He initially said that on the second day of the draft, before we drafted Dak. It was an emotional response in losing a bidding war.
 

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If after twenty years of GM ineptitude and team mediocrity...if we get something to celebrate that would be awesome! I'll be celebrating for the players and coaches and other fans.

I'm sure Jones gets into the HOF this summer or next. Rich people take good care of each other and Jerry has helped the other owners make a lot of money.

I'll probably tune in and watch his induction speed to see all the Cowboy players and I'll probably chuckle at his jokes. Jones makes things interesting I'll give him that.

As for giving him credit for landing Romo or Dak.... no. He didn't have a clue what he was getting either time.

Funny thing, JJ has been the owner / GM for 27 years, not 20. All the years count the same. See ya on the HOF thread I'll be starting.
 

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As for giving him credit for landing Romo or Dak.... no. He didn't have a clue what he was getting either time.

Sean Payton was responsible for bringing Romo...unless you want to credit Campo for putting together the worst QB corps in the league and giving Romo that kind of incentive.

Anyone that tried to take credit for Dak is just lying, it's obvious he was at a minimum behind Goff, Wentz, Lynch, and Cook. But that's ok, I mean pretty much every other team failed miserably as well lol.
 

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One habit I wish Jerry would stop doing is talking to the press about the "could haves". Like when we drafted Martin over Johnny Football. A couple weeks or months later Jerry told the media he still laments over that decision. Or on draft day after we didn't trade for Lynch. Why come out and and tell the media that he didn't sleep last night because of not doing enough to draft Lynch. Dude, why say that. Not every trade or draft pick goes your way and other GM's aren't publicly talking about who they wished they would have gotten or trades they didn't pull the trigger on.

That irritates me with Jerry, he doesn't have to be completely transparent on some issues with the media.
 

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Lol @ the comment section...

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Exactly! No one is mentioning that when Kellen Moore was lost to injury right before training camp, Jerry came out and said, we're going to see what we have with Prescott and Showers first. No one is mentioning that when Romo went down, the Cowboys openly said they were looking for a veteran "backup" quarterback, not starter.

The only "luck" factor that you can say about the Cowboys is that Dak Prescott turned out to be better and ready quicker than they (and anyone else) ever imagined. There was no "luck" in drafting him nor "luck" in starting him.

than it was luck Dak was there
 

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than it was luck Dak was there
You can say that about every single draft pick every year other than the first pick. It was "luck" that Ezekiel Elliot was available at 4 too. If you get a good or great player, and any team had a pick before you, you are "lucky" that he was still there. We were lucky on Emmitt Smith, Dez Bryant, Tony Romo, etc. The Patriots were lucky on Brady. The Seahawks were lucky on Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. There is no "special luck" for the Cowboys when it comes to draft picks. They simply had the same "luck" as every other team. They are just getting better results from the picks they made.
 

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Dak Prescott kind of makes me question the scouts in the NFL. He basically did the same thing as this in college and lead Mississippi State to a #1 rank for 5 straight weeks, broke 23 QB records there including 288 passes without an INT (3rd all time in the SEC) he threw over 1,000 passes and only threw 22 interceptions his entire college career, averages out to about 2.2% of his throws.
 

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You can say that about every single draft pick every year other than the first pick. It was "luck" that Ezekiel Elliot was available at 4 too. If you get a good or great player, and any team had a pick before you, you are "lucky" that he was still there. We were lucky on Emmitt Smith, Dez Bryant, Tony Romo, etc. The Patriots were lucky on Brady. The Seahawks were lucky on Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. There is no "special luck" for the Cowboys when it comes to draft picks. They simply had the same "luck" as every other team. They are just getting better results from the picks they made.

Tony went undrafted, we were lucky for that.
 

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You can say that about every single draft pick every year other than the first pick. It was "luck" that Ezekiel Elliot was available at 4 too. If you get a good or great player, and any team had a pick before you, you are "lucky" that he was still there. We were lucky on Emmitt Smith, Dez Bryant, Tony Romo, etc. The Patriots were lucky on Brady. The Seahawks were lucky on Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. There is no "special luck" for the Cowboys when it comes to draft picks. They simply had the same "luck" as every other team. They are just getting better results from the picks they made.

I think we were lucky when Dez fell. Some players we got lucky on because other teams made moves, some players we didnt. Its all what you define luck.
 

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I think we were lucky when Dez fell. Some players we got lucky on because other teams made moves, some players we didnt. Its all what you define luck.
Thank you for proving my point. Any player that turns out to be a good or great player who was not drafted #1 is "lucky" by that definition. As such, that means almost all of the best players or even good players in the league, except the ones drafted with the first overall pick were "lucky" picks. When every team is "lucky", that in itself negates the importance or even relevance of being "lucky".

If 5 people win a million dollars, they are lucky. If almost everyone wins a million dollars, then no one is lucky. I guess you could say the ones who did not win a million dollars are "unlucky" though if that helps :)
 

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The whole league missed on him over and over. He was a 4th round pick.
Nice try to create controversy were none exists Espn.
 

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He initially said that on the second day of the draft, before we drafted Dak. It was an emotional response in losing a bidding war.

That's false, Jones said it after the draft and after he had drafted Prescott. This is the FWST article -


Jerry Jones didn’t sleep well Thursday night.

The Dallas Cowboys owner couldn’t get over missing out on a possible trade back into the first round for Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch. After the draft, Jones lamented that he didn’t overpay Seattle for the 26th overall pick that ultimately went to Denver.

Jones didn’t get to bed until about 3 a.m. that night and woke up at 6 a.m. He said before the morning was over, he had talked with six people about how he screwed it up.

“I was still mad about it,” Jones said. “Actually thought we had it done.”

The Cowboys tried to trade up in the fourth round Saturday for Michigan State’s Connor Cook, but to no avail. The Oakland Raiders had jumped ahead of them for Cook.

But Jones wasn’t too disappointed in losing that. He felt good about the quarterback the Cowboys ended up with later in the fourth round, Mississippi State’s Dak Prescott. Jones likes the idea of Prescott being groomed under Tony Romo and the coaching staff, and envisions a similar scenario with how Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers learned under Brett Favre for a couple seasons.



Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports...orner-blog/article74949592.html#storylink=cpy
 

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Dak Prescott kind of makes me question the scouts in the NFL. He basically did the same thing as this in college and lead Mississippi State to a #1 rank for 5 straight weeks, broke 23 QB records there including 288 passes without an INT (3rd all time in the SEC) he threw over 1,000 passes and only threw 22 interceptions his entire college career, averages out to about 2.2% of his throws.
His measurables are not that good. his tape shows missed reads in both college and the pro game. because people's jobs are at stake, they will always go with measurables over intangibles every time.
 

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Everyone realizes that Dallas actually DRAFTED Prescott, right?. Dallas is actually the ONLY TEAM that DIDN'T PASS on drafting him.
I hope they realize that seeing that he's starting for us.:flagwave:

Dallas researched the heck out of Dak. Multiple visits in Dallas and Starksville.
 

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Dak Prescott kind of makes me question the scouts in the NFL. He basically did the same thing as this in college and lead Mississippi State to a #1 rank for 5 straight weeks, broke 23 QB records there including 288 passes without an INT (3rd all time in the SEC) he threw over 1,000 passes and only threw 22 interceptions his entire college career, averages out to about 2.2% of his throws.

Pretty much. Did it in high school, did it in college, did it in the sr bowl and now the league. I didn't start paying attention to him til last year. When the scouts all had him with a lower round projection, he's who I wanted rather than a high draft pick. Everything about him looked great and I'm not a scout so that's all I can go by.

"Man this kid can play "
 

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Pretty much. Did it in high school, did it in college, did it in the sr bowl and now the league. I didn't start paying attention to him til last year. When the scouts all had him with a lower round projection, he's who I wanted rather than a high draft pick. Everything about him looked great and I'm not a scout so that's all I can go by.

"Man this kid can play "

Its funny, I don't have the bandwidth to watch a lot of college football but I did see Dak play in the Senior Bowl. I liked him from that moment on and posted it at the time. I think just seeing the "finished product" of his college time rather than the learning curve is why we had a better read on him than others that saw all the growing pains.
 

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Its funny, I don't have the bandwidth to watch a lot of college football but I did see Dak play in the Senior Bowl. I liked him from that moment on and posted it at the time. I think just seeing the "finished product" of his college time rather than the learning curve is why we had a better read on him than others that saw all the growing pains.

Well the crazy thing is, is two years ago he was in the heisman running. So it's not like he just became this finished product, he's been doing it all along. Some folks see what they want I guess. I just couldn't be happier
 
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