ESPN: McShay: Scouting WRs is an Inexact Science

[Zaxor]

Alexander Wright.

Great points.

duh : my bad

 

[mmillman]

A couple of random thoughts.

Having a future Hall of Fame QB (or two) throwing to you doesn't hurt a WR's chances.

Playing in a West Coast, Air-Coryell, or otherwise pass-intensive offense helps too.

Rice was a perfect player in part because he was a great player who played in a near perfect situation.

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Raw speed, in and of itself, isn't enough. In some cases, raw speed isn't even required.

All things being equal, though, I'd guess that the WR's raw speed tends to help his teammates' production. When the opposition is afraid of a very fast WR getting behind the defense, things tend to open up for others.

great post and I agree 100% Many times players become great or "busts" because they are in the right or wrong system or have the right or wrong surrounding cast. Football is the ultimate team sport, a QB needs protection and someone to throw to or run the ball to keep the defense off balance. A CB needs a passrush so they don't have to cover for so long. A RB needs a crease or for the defense to respect a deep throw.

 

[CF74]

4. Competitiveness: I know, it sounds cheesy. But it can't be ignored. The ultimate intangible is a receiver's competitiveness. A player must also have the mental toughness and stamina to outlast his opponent throughout the course of a four-quarter game. This can be the toughest of the four key ingredients to measure because it often fluctuates -- for better and for worse -- once a receiver makes the leap from college to the pros.

The entire post was an excellent read but this last part really stuck out in my mind. I remember a few games where we were down this past season and you could tell one of our top receivers had already given up but Romo hadn't nor did Patrick Crayton. This year will be a different story:starspin

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Of all the WRs that have been drafted out of a Spurrier program you can only mention one that was worth a flip. Many were highly touted and first day draft picks. Past performance is the best predictor of future success.

The past performance of Spurriers wideouts has been absolutely horrible.

it's part of predicting the future success, the other part is what type of prospect Rice is

and being coached by Spurrier isn't going to deter teams from taking Rice on the 1st day, it's just going to cause them to look at him more closely and compare him to say Travis Taylor

 

[masomenos]

1.) and 2.) is why Sidney Rice will be a very good WR in the pros, he has outstanding initial burst and Spurrier's system is complicated

There is cause for concern with Sidney Rice, while he gets off of the ball very quickly he also lacks explosiveness in his running ability, something that can be seen in his very lackluster 3-cone drill time. Rice had the 4th worst time in that drill out of anyone (no time on Dwayne Jarrett). The 3 cone drill is often overlooked, but if you look at how it translates into actual ability it's easy to see why it should be focused on more. Sidney Rice's cone drill time is just as bad as Mike Williams was so I believe there is serious concern about his ability to gain separation. He may eat up a CBs cushion fairly quickly, but he also had pedestrian 20 yard splits. He's a guy who I don't think you'll ever see being very productive in the league. He may put up a few TDs every year because his hands, leaping ability and 10 yard time make him an ideal target for redzone fade routes but I seriously doubt he'll be anything special.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

There is cause for concern with Sidney Rice, while he gets off of the ball very quickly he also lacks explosiveness in his running ability, something that can be seen in his very lackluster 3-cone drill time. Rice had the 4th worst time in that drill out of anyone (no time on Dwayne Jarrett). The 3 cone drill is often overlooked, but if you look at how it translates into actual ability it's easy to see why it should be focused on more. Sidney Rice's cone drill time is just as bad as Mike Williams was so I believe there is serious concern about his ability to gain separation. He may eat up a CBs cushion fairly quickly, but he also had pedestrian 20 yard splits. He's a guy who I don't think you'll ever see being very productive in the league. He may put up a few TDs every year because his hands, leaping ability and 10 yard time make him an ideal target for redzone fade routes but I seriously doubt he'll be anything special.

he lives! fair enough

 

[masomenos]

lol how's it goin summer?

I just realized that you and I registered at the same time (Apr 2005) but that you have 19,271 more posts than me...looks like I have some catching up to do lol.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol how's it goin summer?

I just realized that you and I registered at the same time (Apr 2005) but that you have 19,271 more posts than me...looks like I have some catching up to do lol.

you're damn right you do, you have to help me argue w/ the non-fact bringing idiots, we need more posters like you on here