ESPN Mosley Chat Wrap - 04/07/09... 7 'boys blurbs

[BigDFan5]

Mosely usually has pretty good information. He said Dallas liked Anthony Spencer weeks before the draft.

When he had Dallas picking Flowers, I don't think he (or the Cowboys) thought Jenkins would still be there.

No doubt I like Mosley

Just saying he predicted we liked Felix and Spencer is not a big deal most people did

 

[SLATEmosphere]

WOW..this is the second time that he said we "loved" Louis Delmas..not "liked" or "looking at" but LOVVVED!

We are movin up to get him at pick 40! I'm callin it!

 

[Woods]

OK, I could be completely wrong regarding Loadholt, according to GBNreport.com, as of early April:


40 Michael Johnson DE 6-7, 266 Georgia Tech
41 *LeSean McCoy RB 5-10, 205 Pittsburgh (X)
42 William Beatty OT 6-6, 307 UConn
43 Alphonso Smith CB 5-9, 195 Wake Forest
44 *Sen'Derrick Marks DT 6-2, 306 Auburn
45 *Kenny Britt WR 6-3, 218 Rutgers
46 Shawn Nelson TE 6-5, 240 Southern Mississippi
47 Phil Loadholt OT 6-8, 335 Oklahoma
48 Marcus Freeman LB 6-1, 240 Ohio State
49 *Sean Smith CB 6-4, 215 Utah
50 *Paul Kruger DE 6-4, 265 Utah
51 Brian Robiskie WR 6-3, 210 Ohio State
52 Louis Delmas FS 5-11, 202 Western Michigan
53 Clint Sintim LB 6-3, 255 Virginia
54 Alex Magee DT 6-3, 298 Purdue
55 Duke Robinson OG 6-5, 330 Oklahoma
56 Fili Moala DT 6-4, 305 USC
57 Rashad Johnson FS 5-11, 203 Alabama
58 Jamon Meredith OT 6-5, 305 South Carolina
59 Rashad Jennings RB 6-1 231 Liberty
60 Keenan Lewis CB 6-1, 210 Oregon State

According to the various draft gurus, Loadholt would probably have to be moved to RT (at least initially), and that he could also play inside at OG (NFLDraftScouts).

I don't know how effective he'll be at Guard at 6-8 . . . .

That said, he recently met with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and is being compared to Max Starks. Also, that Loadholt perfectly fits in to a smash mouth, power running type team.

I guess he fits H Houck's standard in terms of size and scale.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

OK, I could be completely wrong regarding Loadhold, according to GBNreport.com, as of early April:


40 Michael Johnson DE 6-7, 266 Georgia Tech
41 *LeSean McCoy RB 5-10, 205 Pittsburgh (X)
42 William Beatty OT 6-6, 307 UConn
43 Alphonso Smith CB 5-9, 195 Wake Forest
44 *Sen'Derrick Marks DT 6-2, 306 Auburn
45 *Kenny Britt WR 6-3, 218 Rutgers
46 Shawn Nelson TE 6-5, 240 Southern Mississippi
47 Phil Loadholt OT 6-8, 335 Oklahoma
48 Marcus Freeman LB 6-1, 240 Ohio State
49 *Sean Smith CB 6-4, 215 Utah
50 *Paul Kruger DE 6-4, 265 Utah
51 Brian Robiskie WR 6-3, 210 Ohio State
52 Louis Delmas FS 5-11, 202 Western Michigan
53 Clint Sintim LB 6-3, 255 Virginia
54 Alex Magee DT 6-3, 298 Purdue
55 Duke Robinson OG 6-5, 330 Oklahoma
56 Fili Moala DT 6-4, 305 USC
57 Rashad Johnson FS 5-11, 203 Alabama
58 Jamon Meredith OT 6-5, 305 South Carolina
59 Rashad Jennings RB 6-1 231 Liberty
60 Keenan Lewis CB 6-1, 210 Oregon State

seems a little high for those guys in bold

but at his Pro Day, Loadholt looked good in positional drills, wasn't as stiff as some expected him to be

 

[Woods]

seems a little high for those guys in bold

but at his Pro Day, Loadholt looked good in positional drills, wasn't as stiff as some expected him to be

The one thing that has been bothering me with my various mock drafts is that I can always find an OG that I'd like to take in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and possibly even 6th and 7th rounds. However, to get an OT that I'm comfortable with, it's much, much harder after the top 6-7 go in rounds 1 and 2.

I've been touting D Robinson at 51, but maybe there is more value with a guy like Loadholt at 51, esp if he can play in the interior?

Even NFLDraftScouts has Loadhold in the bottom of the 2nd area (going on memory).

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The one thing that has been bothering me with my various mock drafts is that I can always find an OG that I'd like to take in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and possibly even 6th and 7th rounds. However, to get an OT that I'm comfortable with, it's much, much harder after the top 6-7 go in rounds 1 and 2.

I've been touting D Robinson at 51, but maybe there is more value with a guy like Loadholt at 51, esp if he can play in the interior?

Even NFLDraftScouts has Loadhold in the bottom of the 2nd area (going on memory).

I noticed that too, I really like Jamon Meredith, but he's apparently off our list, he would have been a prime target at 51

NFLDS has Loadholt 67th on their board

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I don't like any of these 2nd tier LT's..I wouldn't waste a draft pick on any of em..Wait till next years first rounder to grab one. The 2010 LT class is going to be stacked like this years.

 

[Woods]

I noticed that too, I really like Jamon Meredith, but he's apparently off our list, he would have been a prime target at 51

NFLDS has him 67th on their board

Was just looking at my Pro Football Weekly Draft Guide, and they rank him a 3rd or 4th rounder.

But, that he fits on a big-bodied line like the Vikings, Steelers, or Cowboys.

If the Cowboys really want him, they could probably trade down a few spots, pick up another 4th rounder, and possibly still get him.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Phil Loadholt is garbage... Slow feet and terrible against the pass. NO thanks! I could see Dallas selecting the kid Louis Delmas.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Phil Loadholt is garbage... Slow feet and terrible against the pass. NO thanks! I could see Dallas selecting the kid Louis Delmas.

100% correct.

 

[28 Joker]

I speculated if Dallas viewed Loadholt as a LT or a poor man's Marcus McNeil. I may have been right. Loadholt lost weight and had a great pre-draft process.

Having said that, I don't see him making it to 51. The Vikings may take him in round one if Ebon Britton goes to the Bears. If he does slide to round 2, you are going to have to probably move up some, imo.

 

[28 Joker]

Mosley said the Cowboys liked Limas Sweed, and they drafted Bennett.

 

[Zaxor]

Phil Loadholt is garbage... Slow feet and terrible against the pass. NO thanks! I could see Dallas selecting the kid Louis Delmas.

I agree that he looked awful

 

[silverbear]

Loadholt does not make me too happy. Who knows, maybe if they get him they might turn things around but I just don't see it with him other than being a big body.

Here's a thought I had for you to mull over, Brain-- maybe the Cowboys see Loadholt as the next coming of Kevin Gogan, and see a move to guard in his future...

IMO, he'll never make it at LT, but might make a nice RT... at the same time, his size suggests that like Leonard Davis (who's much quicker), he might prosper if you moved him inside, where hand to hand combat is the rule of the day and foot speed is less critical...

All that said, I'd still MUCH prefer his teammate, Duke Robinson, at pick 51... or one of the big three centers who might slide that far-- Mack, Unger or Wood...

 

[silverbear]

Wasn't he the worst lineman at the Senior Bowl?

He wasn't good there, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything more than he just got exposed to an entirely new system, and was tentative as a result...

I do have sincere reservations about his agility, though... when Kevin Gogan came out of college, I wrote something like "as big as a mountain, and ALMOST as fast"... I've recycled that line with Loadholt...

 

[silverbear]

According to the various draft gurus, Loadholt would probably have to be moved to RT (at least initially), and that he could also play inside at OG (NFLDraftScouts).

I don't know how effective he'll be at Guard at 6-8 . . . .

Kevin Gogan was 6-7...

That said, he recently met with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and is being compared to Max Starks. Also, that Loadholt perfectly fits in to a smash mouth, power running type team.

I guess he fits H Houck's standard in terms of size and scale.

Well, I think Starks is quicker than Phil is, but it's not an altogether inaccurate comparison, IMO... and I definitely think he's a Houck-esque ballplayer...

If the Boys went for him, I have to think that at least at first, he'd be moved inside (because they like what Colombo gives them at RT, and Loadholt can't play LT)...

 

[Woods]

Kevin Gogan was 6-7...



Well, I think Starks is quicker than Phil is, but it's not an altogether inaccurate comparison, IMO... and I definitely think he's a Houck-esque ballplayer...

If the Boys went for him, I have to think that at least at first, he'd be moved inside (because they like what Colombo gives them at RT, and Loadholt can't play LT)...

That's a very good point about Gogan.

I guess that Loadholt could give the Cowboys more flexibility than a guy like D Robinson in that Loadholt could play both OG and RT.

I don't know, I'll have to think about this more. I still prefer Robinson though. But as I said earlier, I wouldn't mind Lang in the 4th either.

Tough choices . . . .

 

[silverbear]

I don't know, I'll have to think about this more. I still prefer Robinson though.

I do, too...

But as I said earlier, I wouldn't mind Lang in the 4th either.

Again, I agree... I like that Lang can apparently play center...

 

[Hostile]

Mosley said the Cowboys liked Limas Sweed, and they drafted Bennett.

He was right, they did. Sweed and Hardy were the two WRs Dallas had hoped would be within their top 3 picks of 2008. If you go back and look at articles last year you will actually read where Stephen and Jerry Jones both mentioned their names.

Hardy went off the board to the Bills at 41. The Cowboys then wanted Sweed with their 2nd round pick at 61. The Steelers took him at 53. They did not have any other WR rated ahead of Bennett at that point so they took Bennett.

Mosley was right.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Here's a thought I had for you to mull over, Brain-- maybe the Cowboys see Loadholt as the next coming of Kevin Gogan, and see a move to guard in his future...

IMO, he'll never make it at LT, but might make a nice RT... at the same time, his size suggests that like Leonard Davis (who's much quicker), he might prosper if you moved him inside, where hand to hand combat is the rule of the day and foot speed is less critical...

All that said, I'd still MUCH prefer his teammate, Duke Robinson, at pick 51... or one of the big three centers who might slide that far-- Mack, Unger or Wood...

Yeah if we want him for OG just get Robinson who seems to be superior to Loadholt. Right Tackle maybe but I would hope that Free will work out down the road if he is not going to be a left tackle.

Just not high on Loadholt.