ESPN-Mosley: Garrett Better Get His Money's Worth

[notherbob]

Unfortunately for both of them, some of the most talented head coaches in the league are sitting this season out. And at least two of them -- Mike Shanahan and Mike Holmgren -- have close ties to Jerry Jones.

By "close ties", does he mean puppet strings? My fear is that as long as Puppetmaster Jerry is running this show things aren't going to change very much. No zoo in the world has a tiger with leopard spots or a leopard with stripes.

JMO

 

[cml750]

im hearing either shanny or holgremy

now it could just be a possibility if jason garretts offense does pretty good, keeps scoring 30 points or more each game, jerry may keep him as offensive coordinator, but wade would be gone unless he accepts a demotion to just being defensive coordinator

The way our defense has played the last two weeks, I do not even want Wade as DC. In fact I think we should scrap the 3 -4 all together. We have the personnel to go to the 4 -3. Can you imagine Ware lined up at DE with Ratliff next to him at DT. Who do you double team?

 

[Daudr]

It was after the debacle vs . the Eagles last season.

I want to see a link with the quote, because I don't remember that happening either.

 

[Seven]

Romo pointed the finger at Garrett? What did Romo say? I have absolutely no recollection of that.

I want to see a link with the quote, because I don't remember that happening either.

I don't have a link but I know there is one. Romo stated that "we were exposed" after the Philthy(no pun intended) game last year. Most construed that as a shot aimed at Garrett.

 

[Vertigo_17]

By "close ties", does he mean puppet strings? My fear is that as long as Puppetmaster Jerry is running this show things aren't going to change very much. No zoo in the world has a tiger with leopard spots or a leopard with stripes.

JMO

Fair enough of a concern, but Parcell's was not a puppet and Jerry figured out a way to make that work (sans the TO experiment). I would expect that Shanny or Homgren would demand similiar control.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

If we dont win a playoff game this year, both Wade and Garrett can watch Shanny calling the plays into Romo next year.

I honestly don't think Garrett will get fired and while I'm a fan of Shanahan's, I don't think he's really the answer because of the personnel we have.

Mosely's reports are about as credible as a politician's campaign promises. Plus, Garrett seems to have an ability to sell himself...or at least sell himself to Jerry as not only did he convince Jerry that he wasn't to blame, but that we needed to get rid of Owens...a guy Jerry couldn't wait to bring in and had 33 TD catches in 3 years.

Just grasp that concept for a bit. Teams usually will not do without a guy that produces like Owens did for Dallas from 2006-2008 and with all of this talk that Garrett sucks, the owner dumped Owens. What's stupid about Mosely's report is that he talks about Jerry not wanting to fire Garrett and have to pay him that money, but he instead got rid of a more expensive player in Owens. If that doesn't scream that Jerry paid no thought of firing Garrett, I don't know what does. And I thought Garrett did a poor job of coaching last year.

I think we'll be hard pressed to see Garrett get fired, unless the offense has a very bad year. Even with Romo's issues, and I think it's something that Garrett has to straighten out or find a replacement if he ever wants to be a great coach, the offense is averaging 32.5 ppg.

The problem with Shanahan as a head coach is he is going to want to install zone blocking and outside of Kosier, we don't have the O-Linemen for it. But even bigger, we have a lot of money locked into that O-Line, with good money going into Flo, Gurode, Davis and Colombo.

I think Shanahan may wind up with the Commanders unless Snyder balks at offering him at least $5 mil/yr or he does something that Shanny doesn't like. I think either Garrett or Cowher becomes the next Cowboys HC.






YAKUZA

 

[TD-33]

Romo pointed the finger at Garrett? What did Romo say? I have absolutely no recollection of that.

Because he didn't.

 

[Bluefin]

Romo pointed the finger at Garrett? What did Romo say? I have absolutely no recollection of that.

I dug up an old DMN blog following the Eagles debacle last season.

Stars think Cowboys' offensive woes start with Jason Garrett's scheme


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T.O.'s frustration with Jason Garrett's offense is old news that gets rehashed on a weekly basis. But you can't just dismiss T.O.'s concerns because of his history of battling coaches.

Especially since Tony Romo agrees that the league has caught up with a lot of what Garrett calls.

Romo didn't call out Garrett by name after the loss to the Eagles. But the Cowboys' two highest-profile playmakers made it clear that Garrett should shoulder a large share of the blame for the Cowboys' offensive woes.

"They exposed us," Romo said. "It's something that we do fundamentally offensively. So give them credit. Give [Eagles defensive coordinator] Jim Johnson credit."

Romo, who completed 21 of 39 passes for 183 yards and committed three turnovers, specifically pointed to the way the Eagles attacked the Cowboys' pass protection. He said the Eagles were able to get blitzers free while taking away the "hot" receivers by playing tight man coverage.

It's the second consecutive week Romo mentioned that the Cowboys were outschemed, particularly in pass protection. That doesn't shine a favorable light on the job done by Garrett and offensive line coach Hudson Houck, who was a major downgrade from Tony Sparano.

"Scheme is a major, major part of it that the normal fan or writer doesn't understand sometimes," said Romo, who promised that the Cowboys would be better next season. "If you're put in a really good situation, it really allows your team to be successful a lot. That's why I think some games, it's easy to say, 'Well, he didn't play good.' A lot of it is scheme."

There is no arguing that the talent-to-production ratio is way out of whack for the Cowboys' offense.

During a sitdown interview with Deion Sanders on NFL Network, T.O. called out Garrett for not using him properly. T.O. has expanded his complaints recently to include the way that Garrett uses -- or doesn't use -- all the team's weapons.

"I just feel with the weopons on this team, we just need more opportunities," T.O. said today. "We need to be a little more diverse with the capable guys in this lineup. Whatever the case may be, if those things don't happen, then hey, we just have to stick with what we have."

"But I know there needs to be some changes in regards to getting some guys involved, putting guys in position to win. It all starts with guys who are calling the plays."

 

[TD-33]

Some folks are so quick to lose their belief in this team, but I won't be one of them. I still have every reason to believe that we have as good a shot as anyone at winning it all.

:clap2:

Amen.

I think that makes two of us.

Three.

 

[Big Dakota]

Right now he's got the #2 ranked O in the NFL. Just because guys like Mosley and some posters here say he's on the hot seat doesn't mean Jerry has any intention of letting him go anywhere. We had some injury issues last year but still only slipped to 13th in the league. To me the real question is, does Jason have credibility with the entire team? Will both sides of the ball respond to him if he's called on the be the HC?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think either Garrett or Cowher becomes the next Cowboys HC.

:signmast:

 

[CF74]

To me the real question is, does Jason have credibility with the entire team? Will both sides of the ball respond to him if he's called on the be the HC?

Well last year the O threw him under the bus, maybe things will change.:laugh2:

 

[FLcowboy]

If the Cowboys don't win at least one playoff game this season, I think Garrett and Phillips will both be gone. Unfortunately for both of them, some of the most talented head coaches in the league are sitting this season out. And at least two of them -- Mike Shanahan and Mike Holmgren -- have close ties to Jerry Jones.

Holmgren won't deliver a title to Dallas. He was supposed to be the savior for Seattle, after a lot of success in Green Bay. He didn't do it, and he wasted a lot of money and time in Seattle.

Shanahan is my choice.

 

[Bluefin]

Shanahan is my choice.

The big question with any new head coach/offensive coordinator/defensive coordinator that may come in following the season is this.

Will they adjust their scheme to the players on hand or try to force the players into whatever system they prefer?

Mike Shanahan is synonymous with the zone blocking scheme he used in Denver with OL coach Alex Gibbs. Our line isn't built for that, would Shanahan demand we rebuild it to run what he wants or keep it the way it is and adjust his philosophy?

 

[Kangaroo]

Sorry but there was nothing wrong with Garret's play calling I mean 31 points even with 4 turn overs.

On turn over was a special team so that is not on Garrett. The other Witten was open it was a pass that got away and took a lucky bounce.

The issue is Romo on that pass to Hurd; Romo has to understand the game situation and time frame in the game. Romo forced that pass plain and simple Garrett had safety values and safer passes in the route. Romo has to know that if that route is not open to dump it off and it is a non issue. Romo set his feet and just chunked that ball down field it was plain stupid he did not use his safety valve. If coordinator can not trust his QB to make the correct decision and saying that the pass route should not been an option at that time of the game is stupid; what that means is we have the wrong QB starting and steps need to be taken to replace him with an upgrade. That is what it boils down too can the QB step up and understand what he has to due to win games like that. The QB has to manage that team when he is out on the field and that includes his impulse to always try and make a big play instead of just making a normal play

 

[craig71]

You know Wade is a good guy,but unless he meets Jerry's expectations of him he's gone.What those expectations exactly are,who knows.A person shouldn't assume anything,but I can't resist(stupidity on my part).

As some others have already posted,Shanahan is not a good fit.Simply put,his offensive scheme does not fit the offensive line that we have in place.I think that if Garrett has his offense ranked among one of the best in the league at years end he will be the next head coach.It would be hard to argue against Garrett if he delivers the "goods",it maintains continuity as Jerry would say.Holmgren would be a good person to have around as a consultant(if Garrett is HC),he's respected by Jerry and also throughout the league.The hiring of Holmgren also gives some credibility to the organization,much like the hiring of Parcells did at one time.I can't see Cowher and Jerry getting along at all,but I concede that I didn't see Parcells here for more than 12 months before a nuclear meltdown occured.If Garrett is not named the next HC,I would expect Holmgren to get a look.While I like him as a consultant,i'm not all that excited about him as a head coach.I'm also sure there will be some "hot names" out there at years end,there always are.So I guess in the meantime we'll have to see how this season plays out.And if/whenever we get a new head coach,hopefully whoever is chosen will be the best fit for this team.Regardless of what the vast legions of armchair GM's/talking heads
think.One thing that I am certain of though,regardless of what happens .There will be "pro" so and so's against "anti" so and so's on this forum,that seems to be a constant.

Craig

 

[Idgit]

What an awful article. In particular, equating Tony's quotes after the Eagles game to using Garrett like a 'punching bag' (quotes where Tony never even mentions Garrett, by name, or by position) is garbage.

You believe Jones would have fired Phillis *and* Garrett, but didn't because he didn't want to spend $6M? Speculate much, Mosely? If you really believe it, I guess supporting it with, you know, evidence isn't really necessary. While we're at it, let's insinuate that Jerry Jones is only supporting his QB because of the very reasonable contract he gave him two years ago. Oh, wait, nevermind. He was able to work that in, too.

 

[dadymat]

this article is about 7 months late......being 1st in rushing yards, 2nd in yard average, and 3rd in point average..putting up 65 points in first 2 games doesnt put the OC on hot seat.......Mosley is such a pud......

i remember last week he was saying we couldnt handle the Giants...after the game he was gloating as if we got dominated by them......we got dominated by mistakes Mosley......*** hat

 

[jay cee]

I honestly don't think Garrett will get fired and while I'm a fan of Shanahan's, I don't think he's really the answer because of the personnel we have.

Mosely's reports are about as credible as a politician's campaign promises. Plus, Garrett seems to have an ability to sell himself...or at least sell himself to Jerry as not only did he convince Jerry that he wasn't to blame, but that we needed to get rid of Owens...a guy Jerry couldn't wait to bring in and had 33 TD catches in 3 years.

Just grasp that concept for a bit. Teams usually will not do without a guy that produces like Owens did for Dallas from 2006-2008 and with all of this talk that Garrett sucks, the owner dumped Owens. What's stupid about Mosely's report is that he talks about Jerry not wanting to fire Garrett and have to pay him that money, but he instead got rid of a more expensive player in Owens. If that doesn't scream that Jerry paid no thought of firing Garrett, I don't know what does. And I thought Garrett did a poor job of coaching last year.

I think we'll be hard pressed to see Garrett get fired, unless the offense has a very bad year. Even with Romo's issues, and I think it's something that Garrett has to straighten out or find a replacement if he ever wants to be a great coach, the offense is averaging 32.5 ppg.

The problem with Shanahan as a head coach is he is going to want to install zone blocking and outside of Kosier, we don't have the O-Linemen for it. But even bigger, we have a lot of money locked into that O-Line, with good money going into Flo, Gurode, Davis and Colombo.

I think Shanahan may wind up with the Commanders unless Snyder balks at offering him at least $5 mil/yr or he does something that Shanny doesn't like. I think either Garrett or Cowher becomes the next Cowboys HC.
YAKUZA

I would hope for cowher, between those two. I would not mind Garrett as oc with a strong head coach like Cowher, because IMO, he needs that type of head coach to reign him in.