ESPN: NFC East Q&A: Do teams fear the Giants' pass rush?

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NFC East Q&A: Do teams fear the Giants' pass rush?
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Today’s question: Do other teams still fear the New York Giants' pass rush? And will the return of defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo make a difference in the way the Giants’ defense is viewed?

Todd Archer, Dallas Cowboys: The Cowboys’ commitment to their offensive line in part stems from how the Giants handled the Cowboys in key games in previous years. But Michael Strahan, Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck aren’t walking through that door. Jason Pierre-Paul remains dangerous and has givenTyron Smith some problems, but, to me, what made the Giants’ pass rush so effective was the quality of depth. They could bring guy after guy to get to the quarterback. They haven’t been able to replace those aforementioned players through the draft or free agency to maintain the consistency of pass rush. As for Spagnuolo’s return, I think it’s more about the “Jimmies and the Joes” than “the X's and O's,” for any coach. If he can coax more out of the players the Giants have, then I do think his familiarity with the Cowboys will help more than against the other teams in the division because the Cowboys are essentially running the same offense they did in his first run with the Giants.

Phil Sheridan, Philadelphia Eagles: It’s hard to say the Eagles “fear” the Giants’ pass rush. They certainly respect it, but the days when Umenyiora could blow by Winston Justice for 27 sacks in a game ended when Andy Reid left. The Eagles gave up just one sack in their 27-0 shutout win over the Giants last October. The Giants got to Mark Sanchez four times in the season finale, but generally speaking, I think the Eagles’ offensive line considers itself competitive with most defensive fronts these days, including New York’s. As for Spagnuolo, his return certainly could change the equation. The Eagles went 1-3 against the Giants during Spagnuolo’s previous stint as defensive coordinator. That was Reid and Donovan McNabb, not Chip Kelly and Sam Bradford. But still, the history is the history. Kelly will have to get to work coming up with a read on Spagnuolo’s approach and finding some ways to attack it. That chess match should be fun to watch.

John Keim, Washington Commanders: I can’t imagine Spagnuolo will change the way the Giants' defense is viewed. I remember talking to people about him earlier this offseason and they were well aware of the talent he had the first time around -- and what he hasn’t done since leaving the Giants. As for the pass rush, the Giants sacked Robert Griffin III seven times in their last meeting so ... I know left tackle Trent Williams greatly respects Pierre-Paul. Improving pass protection has been an offseason focal point for the Commanders, with the drafting of tackle Brandon Scherff and the release of right guard Chris Chester. The Giants hurt Washington inside (as did others). So, feared? I don’t know. But the Commanders, after giving up 58 sacks last season (they pinned about half on quarterback indecision), should have a healthy fear of any rush.

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Giants are just a good team on paper. They are the only team I worry about unseating us as NFC East Champs.

1 or 2 more injuries to their OL though and they'll be in trouble.
 

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Giants are just a good team on paper. They are the only team I worry about unseating us as NFC East Champs.

1 or 2 more injuries to their OL though and they'll be in trouble.

I worry. And there are around 30+% of teams making the playoffs that didn't the year before. I don't remember the exact number but that's a ballpark one.

Someone want to put up the average over the last 5, 10 or 20 years?
 

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They certainly respect it, but the days when Umenyiora could blow by Winston Justice for 27 sacks in a game ended when Andy Reid left.

A poorly written sentence. Justice certainly would have the single season sack record with the type of game mentioned above.
 

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They were tied with us for 25th overall in sacks in 2013 and they still managed to knock Romo out of a game for a bit. After 2010 I'll always fear that pass rush even when I shouldn't.
 

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I always feel bad for the Commanders reporter in these situations. (Not really). All he can really say is 'how much worse can it get?'

Lol. What an idiot.
 

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A poorly written sentence. Justice certainly would have the single season sack record with the type of game mentioned above.

Haha, it's sarcasm? He has a point, Winston was terrible.

The Giants front 7 doesn't worry me at all. Our OL is going to beast on them pretty hard.

I actually think our pass rush will be better than the Giants once Hardy comes back.
 

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Speaking defensively strictly about the Giants I'm not worried or nervous...

They lack anyone outside of JPP who I give respect too...
 

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Sun Zi said, ‘He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.’

As often as Washington surprises us and/or beats us I find it difficult to underestimate any of the other East teams.

I hates Washington.
 

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JPP is a shell of what he was during that 2011 run.

On the other hand, Johnathan Hankins gave Frederick all he could handle last season and is a player to watch. But that's more to do with the run game than the pass rush.
 

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They don't anymore, but Eli does. For some reason we bring out the best in him. I have literally never seen a QB chuck a pass up and it get caught more than him. Never!
 

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Haha, it's sarcasm? He has a point, Winston was terrible.

The Giants front 7 doesn't worry me at all. Our OL is going to beast on them pretty hard.

I actually think our pass rush will be better than the Giants once Hardy comes back.

Was that sarcasm? I totally missed it if it was. :oops:
 

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They don't anymore, but Eli does. For some reason we bring out the best in him. I have literally never seen a QB chuck a pass up and it get caught more than him. Never!

It's like the luckiest you know what I've ever seen.
 

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Isn't it amazing how coaches and coordinators look when they have quality talent on their team to work with?

Ernie Stautner was great because he always had players like Bob Lilly, Jethro Pugh, George Andrie, Lee Roy Jordan, Chuck Howley, Mel Renfro, Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters, Randy White, Harvey Martin, Ed "Too Tall" Jones and Everson Walls to work with.

Carson and Lebeau in Pittsburgh always had awesome players playing for them.

The same with Buddy Ryan.

So in 2012, Dallas had Rob Ryan and in 2013, they had Monte Kiffin. During those two seasons the Cowboys had something like 60 different players play on their defenses due to a massive amount of injuries. Are they bad coordinators? NO! They had nothing to work with. What happened to Rob Ryan and Monte Kiffin. I thought was unfortunate and unfair.

In 2014, Marinelli did not have much to work with, but the injury bug was not as significant as the previous two seasons and the Cowboys committed to the run more.

Now Dallas adds a significant amount of talent on this defense on the line, the linebackers, and the secondary.

Bottom line: Spagnolo will improve the Giants defense, but I believe the Cowboys will take greater strides on the defensive side of the ball.

If Dallas gets nearly the same production from the running game like last season, then Dallas is my favorite to win Super Bowl L.
 

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They don't anymore, but Eli does. For some reason we bring out the best in him. I have literally never seen a QB chuck a pass up and it get caught more than him. Never!

Was reading an ask-me-anything yesterday from Fred Smoot where he said again that Eli was amazing before the snap in not having any tells and not giving anything away to the defense. I've heard this before, too. It probably plays into how he's got the luxury to chuck up passes and have it be successful. It's also why it's harder for us fans to appreciate some of his skills, since we just see him floundering around and appearing to get lucky. A QB not having any tells is not exactly an easy thing to pick up on from a tv broadcast.
 

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Was reading an ask-me-anything yesterday from Fred Smoot where he said again that Eli was amazing before the snap in not having any tells and not giving anything away to the defense. I've heard this before, too. It probably plays into how he's got the luxury to chuck up passes and have it be successful. It's also why it's harder for us fans to appreciate some of his skills, since we just see him floundering around and appearing to get lucky. A QB not having any tells is not exactly an easy thing to pick up on from a tv broadcast.

Nice post.

His 'smarts' and intangibles should come as no surprise as he grew up in the game. Archie was a great QB and there's no doubt both Peyton and Eli were 'trained' in the nuances as well as the Xs and Os. Neither of them have the talent that Archie had but have had decent to much better teams supporting them. Despite not having great arms they have had successful careers. IMO Peyton is the best QB since Johnny Unitas at reading defenses and getting the most out of his offense.

We as fans can't possibly know all the little things that make up a great QB. We just don't know the game well enough. We can recognize the talent and production but the game is too complicated for the vast majority of fans.
 
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