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Sonny#9;2153788 said:And you will my friend, and you will...
Ahhhhh now I have arrived....
Sonny#9;2153788 said:And you will my friend, and you will...
Sonny#9;2153057 said:I'd say Cooley is pretty good. I'd say Chris Samules is pretty good. I've said time and time again, Randy Thomas is the most underrated lineman in the league. Like having Santana Moss across from TO wouldn't make you personally wet yourself. Both Portis and Betts have done something neither of your starting RBs have done: run for 1000 yards.
BraveHeartFan;2153139 said:Because there are linebackers, like Patrick Willis, D-Ware, Urlacher, who are simply far better than him. That's how he doesn't make it. And don't give me that Willis makes it, beating him out, on name reconition when Willis is a rookie.
Fletcher is a good player but at the linebacker spot, at least in the NFC, he's fighting an uphill battle against several players that are just flat better than he is.
I do agree, however, that the Pro Bowl is not the be all end of all of player evaluation. That will not happen until they take the fan vote out of it. The fan vote, being roughly half the voting, is what clouds it because guys do get in, with a load of fans, on popularity only. That's how a guy like Roy Williams continues to make it each year despite the fact that the last two seasons he's really not deserved to.
It's also why a guy like T-New is only just now making his first appearance, this last season, when he's been one of the best Corners in the league for a few years.
It happens that way I guess.
I also agree that yes Portis should have made it in 05 (or 06 can't remember the exact year now) when he had those 1500 plus yards and double digit TDs.
saints traded for Jonathan Vilma and you also got hawk and barnett in Packer land.Bob Sacamano;2154088 said:don't forget Lofa Tatupa
that is surprising.Yakuza Rich;2153043 said:He did. But he hasn't made the Pro Bowl since joining the Skins.
YAKUZA
Amazing. This was a Commanders joke thread and managed to turn into a Roy bashing thread.the kid 05;2153473 said:thank you for that elaborate and detailed explenation...oh wait that was your opinion
dogunwo;2154227 said:Amazing. This was a Commanders joke thread and managed to turn into a Roy bashing thread.
the kid 05;2153508 said:Sonny#9;2153491 said:well the AFC was knee deep in Running back talent that years starters for the pro bowl were
Priest Homes - 282 carries 1315 yards 22tds
Jamal Lewis - 338 acarries 1747 yards 11 tds
Clinton Portis - 290 carries 1591 yards and 14 tds
LT - 313 carries 1645 yards and 13 tds.
something to note though is there records:
Cheifs- 13-3
Ravens- 10-6
Broncos- 10-6
Chargers- 4-12
This is an outstanding post! Mostly because it backs up my theory/belief/rule, which is to the victor go the spoils!
Sonny#9;2153559 said:the kid 05;2153508 said:In 2005, Warrick Dunn made it over Clinton Portis...even though Portis carried the Commanders to a 10-6 record, a wild card appearance. Dunn's Falcon's were 8-8.
This is the one exception to my previous rule:
When ever possible screw over a Commander player by not giving him his deserved credit. This infuriates Commander fans and that's a good thing.:laugh2:
UVAwahoos;2154336 said:The whole point of the thread was just to reinforce that the Commanders suck.
(...and that it brings me joy)