ESPN reports that the Cowboys are interested in QB Chris Simms

[Aven8]

I've said it before and I'll say it again......NO NO NO NO!

He sucks! I would rather bring back Chutch or Quincy then have this guy on the roster. We are fine right where we are.

 

[AbeBeta]

I've said it before and I'll say it again......NO NO NO NO!

He sucks! I would rather bring back Chutch or Quincy then have this guy on the roster. We are fine right where we are.

There's the balanced discussion I was looking for

 

[Dallas22]

I live in the Orlando area and have seen him play with the Bucs more often than most because that was usually the game in TV. He's young and I believe and smart QB but he MIGHT still be rusty... that is why I'd sign him and try him out to see where he is at. I think that he has potential IF he is back from his injury and gets some time to UN-rust.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I live in the Orlando area and have seen him play with the Bucs more often than most because that was usually the game in TV. He's young and I believe and smart QB but he MIGHT still be rusty... that is why I'd sign him and try him out to see where he is at. I think that he has potential IF he is back from his injury and gets some time to UN-rust.

Maybe as a 3rd Qb for a year until Johnson retires but the coaches are supposedly high on Bartels. As bad as Johnson is I'd hate for Romo to go down and have to turn to someone who hasn't played in a long time and was iffy when he was playing.

Like I said before if Romo goes down we are screwed with Johnson or Simms.

 

[AbeBeta]

Maybe as a 3rd Qb for a year until Johnson retires but the coaches are supposedly high on Bartels. As bad as Johnson is I'd hate for Romo to go down and have to turn to someone who hasn't played in a long time and was iffy when he was playing.

Like I said before if Romo goes down we are screwed with Johnson or Simms.

But I'd rather us play with a guy like Simms who can still throw the ball deep. No way that Brad is going to keep defenses honest.

 

[Yeagermeister]

But I'd rather us play with a guy like Simms who can still throw the ball deep. No way that Brad is going to keep defenses honest.

Like I said we'd be screwed either way

 

[Dallas22]

But it seems like Simms would be the better of the 2. Bartel might be prepared to be a #2, but he still has to prove it & I don't feel comfortable with Bartel taking over if (please no!) Romo goes down. I'd rather have Simms in there knowing that he still has to prove that he is back 100% from his injury plus having the Cowboys being a launchboard to another team in 1-2 years. This would give him the push to do his best and I think that he still has some potential because with the Bucs he did well with not too much.

 

[Yeagermeister]

But it seems like Simms would be the better of the 2. Bartel might be prepared to be a #2, but he still has to prove it & I don't feel comfortable with Bartel taking over if (please no!) Romo goes down. I'd rather have Simms in there knowing that he still has to prove that he is back 100% from his injury plus having the Cowboys being a launchboard to another team in 1-2 years. This would give him the push to do his best and I think that he still has some potential because with the Bucs he did well with not too much.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see anything in Simms but that's just my opinion.

 

[dargonking999]

I find it so funny that you people cry and whine about enough money to sign Ware, but you want us to waste money on a QB who hasn't played in two years, because you don't think Brad can play if Romo goes down?

Seriously?

If romo goes down, we are screwed whether its Simms or Johnson

Simms can throw the deep ball, so freakin what? Simms can throw deep all day, but if he's throwing to the team with different colors it won't help us any.

Why can't traning camp get here so all this complainin about the #2 QB can at least be drowned out by other whinings (roy, Jones, rookies, etc)

 

[Fletch]

I think Simms would be a nice backup honestly...

Heck yeah! Simms would be an upgrade over our current backup QB's. Now I still like Brad's leadership, but the guy is becoming another Steve DeBerg, and fast.

 

[AbeBeta]

I find it so funny that you people cry and whine about enough money to sign Ware, but you want us to waste money on a QB who hasn't played in two years, because you don't think Brad can play if Romo goes down?

Seriously?

If romo goes down, we are screwed whether its Simms or Johnson

Simms can throw the deep ball, so freakin what? Simms can throw deep all day, but if he's throwing to the team with different colors it won't help us any.

Why can't traning camp get here so all this complainin about the #2 QB can at least be drowned out by other whinings (roy, Jones, rookies, etc)

Simms may improve. Johnson won't get younger.

 

[dargonking999]

Simms may improve. Johnson won't get younger.

So?

he improves and then what?

We have a young guy on our roster who can throw the ball deep. Why do we need another one? Because he's started before? All signing Simms would be is a waste of time and money. The only thing he offers is a little more starting experience than bartel. That's not enough to me.

 

[Shady12]

The difference is Simms has showed he can play in the league. He was starting to play decently when he got hurt. Bartel has shown nothing and likely never will if you go with the odds.

 

[dargonking999]

The difference is Simms has showed he can play in the league. He was starting to play decently when he got hurt. Bartel has shown nothing and likely never will if you go with the odds.

Starting to play decently, and then left the league for 2 years. Not good enough to me

Bartel may not have shown anything, but he is exactly what Simms is, except for the experience, thats it. This isn't a former #1 draft pick. He was he last pick in the 3rd round.

In fact this is from 2006

Chris Simms had played well at the end of the 2005 season, and thus came into the 2006 season with high expectations around him. However, for no particular obvious reason, Simms's play in the first two weeks was abysmal. In back-to-back games against the Baltimore Ravens and Atlanta Falcons, Simms posted up 45 completions on 82 attempts for 446 yards, but had zero touchdowns and six interceptions. He continued to have several of his passes tipped by defensive linemen. Largely due to his inexplicably poor play, the Bucs scored a mere 3 points in two games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Simms

He has not played "well" since the end of the 2005 season.

Again i just don't see the point in picking him up, just because Brad can't throw the ball 40 yards. Either way we go, we're screwed if Romo goes down. Simms would be just a waste of time and money

 

[AbeBeta]

So?

he improves and then what?

We have a young guy on our roster who can throw the ball deep. Why do we need another one? Because he's started before? All signing Simms would be is a waste of time and money. The only thing he offers is a little more starting experience than bartel. That's not enough to me.

1. Simms has a lot more starting experience than Bartel.
2. Simms' starting experience has been at a much higher level
3. Simms has actually, you know, made a pro football team. Bartel hasn't even done that.

 

[dargonking999]

1. Simms has a lot more starting experience than Bartel.
2. Simms' starting experience has been at a much higher level
3. Simms has actually, you know, made a pro football team. Bartel hasn't even done that.

Again so?

What does he have to offer us? The hope that he can return to form from 2005? IF romo goes down? How is that any different from hoping that Bartel or Johnson can maintain the game for us? his skill set might be higher, but his mental capacity leaves a lot to be desired, and again, this is all in case of an injury to Romo.

 

[AbeBeta]

Again so?

What does he have to offer us? The hope that he can return to form from 2005? IF romo goes down? How is that any different from hoping that Bartel or Johnson can maintain the game for us? his skill set might be higher, but his mental capacity leaves a lot to be desired, and again, this is all in case of an injury to Romo.

It comes down to whether you think he can outperform Johnson or Bartel.

And I think he can.

 

[dargonking999]

It comes down to whether you think he can outperform Johnson or Bartel.

And I think he can.

I think he can't.

But we shall see eh?

 

[Dallas22]

Some of us will just always agree to disagree, opinions are just that and there is no way telling who is right. I just like Simms chances as a solid backup compared to the other options, but I could be wrong. He is younger than Johnson and has more starting experience than Bartel, so with this in mind, he could "hold the fort down" better as the backup QB. If he is too rusty or still showing lingering effect of his splein injury, then he would not be worth the pickup.

We shall see, but if Jerry Jones can work out one of his deals with Simms that would = a minimal risk vs reward, then I think it would be a good move for the Cowboys and Simms, while trying to keep Johnson as the #3 and Bartel as a practice squad player if possible. We shall see

 

[jobberone]

Not certain why there is an argument over Bartel vs Simms. One won't see the field this year and the other is on another team.

If Simms gets signed here he will compete with Johnson or they will sign Simms and release Johnson. They would likely look at Simms before releasing Johnson but I agree it wouldn't take long. That's a tricky question because Johnson has playoff experience and could baby sit the team for a few games. Simms isn't going to win a SB most likely and the question is can Johnson win one with this team. I doubt it but he has done it before. Simms has very little skins on the wall; basically none.