ESPN: Romo demanding larger role in playcalling and gameplanning

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They committed to Romo financially, might as well do so on the field as well in my opinion. I like the fact that he is being more vocal about what he wants, that is a sign of a good leader to me.
 

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TheSport78;5080609 said:
This is true but Garrett has been known to get "pass-happy." His pass/run ratio as a coordinator isn't pretty, and offensive linemen would prefer to run block instead of pass block.

When the Cowboys become too pass happy, the OL wears down and chaos ensues.

It would be ridiculous to run the ball more when you can't get any movement whatsoever at the line of scrimmage. I'd throw the ball a ton too and hope Romo can overcome. That's just the hand that's been dealt.

Improve the OL and Garrett becomes a great play caller.
 

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Beast_from_East;5080619 said:
And how is letting Garrett keep calling plays going to increase this? Garrett has been the OC since 2007 and we have never been a good red zone scoring team under him, so why the hell is that all going to change now?


Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity..........Albert Einstein.

I was not under the impression that Garrett would be the OC this year. I was under the impression that it would be somebody else. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not in favor of having Garrett as the OC either. I would rather have somebody else be responsible for that. I'm just saying that allowing Romo to call more of his plays is not the answer IMO. I also don't love this offense when you constantly change the plays at the LOS. It depends too much on everybody hearing the same thing, seeing the same thing and giving yourself the least amount of time to make those adjustments, which only helps the Defense at the snap.

If we are going to make changes, lets make changes that we know will work in the NFL.
 

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Beast_from_East;5080615 said:
Hard to call run plays when your oline is so bad the running back gets hit in the backfield 75% of the time. Maybe Romo would like to call more run plays, but we physically cannot block for run plays.

Maybe adding a rookie center will help, maybe it wont. So the issue is not as black and white as you are saying, Romo is not choosing to pass just for the hell of it. We were 31st in rushing and set a franchise record for fewest rushing attempts because we literally could not run, it was not by choice.

So the bottom line is Romo had to throw the ball 50+ times a game because that was the only way we could move the ball, Romo was not throwing the ball just for the hell of it.

We were second to last in the NFL in running the ball last year. That situation must improve. If you believe that running more hurryup offense will correct that, then OK. I just don't believe that move futher towards that style of offense is going to help correct that situation. This new Center will absolutely help us in the running game. I think we need to change the way we are doing things but I don't believe that running more hurryup is the way to do that.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5080628 said:
I was not under the impression that Garrett would be the OC this year. I was under the impression that it would be somebody else. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not in favor of having Garrett as the OC either. I would rather have somebody else be responsible for that. I'm just saying that allowing Romo to call more of his plays is not the answer IMO. I also don't love this offense when you constantly change the plays at the LOS. It depends too much on everybody hearing the same thing, seeing the same thing and giving yourself the least amount of time to make those adjustments, which only helps the Defense at the snap.

If we are going to make changes, lets make changes that we know will work in the NFL.

I agree that you don't want Romo calling every single play from the LOS, but what I would like to see is some stretches during the game when we can go no huddle and have Romo call 6 or 7 plays in a row during the game.

Kinda like when Jim Kelly had the "K Gun" offense back in the day with Buffalo.
 

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Risen Star;5080624 said:
It would be ridiculous to run the ball more when you can't get any movement whatsoever at the line of scrimmage. I'd throw the ball a ton too and hope Romo can overcome. That's just the hand that's been dealt.

Improve the OL and Garrett becomes a great play caller.

Ever think there could be schematic problems? It's not 100% personnel.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5080636 said:
We were second to last in the NFL in running the ball last year. That situation must improve. If you believe that running more hurryup offense will correct that, then OK. I just don't believe that move futher towards that style of offense is going to help correct that situation. This new Center will absolutely help us in the running game. I think we need to change the way we are doing things but I don't believe that running more hurryup is the way to do that.


Fair enough, we just have a difference of opinion about the no huddle.
 

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Beast_from_East;5080637 said:
I agree that you don't want Romo calling every single play from the LOS, but what I would like to see is some stretches during the game when we can go no huddle and have Romo call 6 or 7 plays in a row during the game.

Kinda like when Jim Kelly had the "K Gun" offense back in the day with Buffalo.

I have to admit, I never liked that. I understand that concept and I understand why you might want to try that but I don't believe that it's better then simply coaching talent that fits a scheme and executing. Kelly and that offense were almost 20 years ago. I think that defenses are better suited to dealing with that now. Romo is a very talented guy but I firmly believe that he's better when he is not the entire focus of the offense.

If it would just be a drive that you might try, that is one thing but I don't know how you limit that if your giving him the authority to take the offense over when he believes he needs to.
 

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I would like to see more of the hurry up offense because it seems that it does work for the most part, especially when the Cowboys get behind.

But, the hurry up offense does not necessarily mean that Romo has to pass, pass, pass. Just call a play and get to the line and go for it.

It could be a run, or it could be a pass, but just call a play and run one or the other, don't wait for the clock to tick down to 2 seconds and then try a play.

It seems that this team worries too much about what the defense is going to do, which I don't agree with because that is letting the defense do what they want you to do!

I'm no OC guru, but at times during games WHEN THE TEAM IS NOT BEHIND, is the time to get to the line, run or pass, does not matter, and snap the ball within 5 seconds or so or when the line gets set, but it seems like that would catch the defense off guard. Do that several times a game and it might make the defense worry about what is going to happen the next play.
 

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We may not need to switch to a full on no huddle offense but we need to play with more tempo and urgency for 4 quarters.


The way Garrett does things keeps us stuck in 1st gear for too long.
 

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Beast_from_East;5080642 said:
Fair enough, we just have a difference of opinion about the no huddle.

I agree. Look, nobody is paying me to listen to what I have to say about Football. I could be 100% wrong on my opinions but it's always a good thing to be able to have an opinion, talk about it and have good discussion around it without going off the deep end. I appreciate that you understand that.
 

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CATCH17;5080650 said:
We may not need to switch to a full on no huddle offense but we need to play with more tempo and urgency for 4 quarters.


The way Garrett does things keeps us stuck in 1st gear for too long.

I agree with this. I just don't fully understand why it seems to be such a big problem. I honestly don't think you should have to use a hurry up to generate that sense of urgency. It's one of the things I have never understood about this team.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5080653 said:
I agree. Look, nobody is paying me to listen to what I have to say about Football. I could be 100% wrong on my opinions but it's always a good thing to be able to have an opinion, talk about it and have good discussion around it without going off the deep end. I appreciate that you understand that.

But, but, but...what about the oline and the GM? Can't we talk about them some? I never hear anyone talk about that.

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5Stars;5080655 said:
But, but, but...what about the oline and the GM? Can't we talk about them some? I never hear anyone talk about that.

:bang2:

You're too long away from Albuquerque 5Stars. Best you get back home soon.
 

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I think the only say Romo should have in game planning is telling them what he is comfortable with.Leave the play calling up to the coaches.The play calling isn't the problem,it's the execution.If Romo demanded more say in the game planning,and play calling during contract negotiations,and obviously received it,then Garrett is hanging on to his job by a string.
 

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Let me get this right....everyone agrees our Lines have been horrible for years now...but we blame the play calling?

What in the world is wrong with you people?
 

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Chocolate Lab;5080381 said:
Running more no-huddle (which has been so successful) and getting to help game plan on Tuesdays is "autonomy"?

Keep defending our spare coach and putting down Romo...

Isn't that what Garrett has been doing? Calling plays until we get so far behind that Romo gets his way with running a no huddle?
Sorry I couldn't resist.

Seriously it's good to hear that Romo is getting more involved in this process however what throws me off is what took so long to get to this point? I would think Garrett (a QB himself) would have accommodated Romo with this from the beginning on the two heads are better than one theory alone muchless that Romo is no rookie and should be comfortable with having a say with play calling.
Ultimately I just think this is more offseason "boredom news" that is sensationalized to breed some comotion for ESPN to sell commercial time.
 

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DenCWBY;5080681 said:
Isn't that what Garrett has been doing? Calling plays until we get so far behind that Romo gets his way with running a no huddle?
Sorry I couldn't resist.

Seriously it's good to hear that Romo is getting more involved in this process however what throws me off is what took so long to get to this point? I would think Garrett (a QB himself) would have accommodated Romo with this from the beginning on the two heads are better than one theory alone muchless that Romo is no rookie and should be comfortable with having a say with play calling.
Ultimately I just think this is more offseason "boredom news" that is sensationalized to breed some comotion for ESPN to sell commercial time.

:laugh2: :bow:

(stupid cowboy fans)
 
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