ESPN: Romo demanding larger role in playcalling and gameplanning

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I sure hope not. I'm fine with Tony calling the plays he likes best in the 2-minute, but you are not likely to develop a running game with most QBs calling plays.

Even on 3rd and long, sometimes it's smart to run the ball.
 

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This is a sign of serious dysfunction in the organization.

Perhaps Romo should try to master quarterback first.
 

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Chuck 54;5080693 said:
I sure hope not. I'm fine with Tony calling the plays he likes best in the 2-minute, but you are not likely to develop a running game with most QBs calling plays.

Even on 3rd and long, sometimes it's smart to run the ball.

If he gets that much lattitude which I doubt, I could see him calling more run plays just to catch his breath from being chased around, also considering his ribs and our poor pass protection on the right side.
If TR is mature enough, he'll hopefully take a page out of the book of Peyton Manning and run the fricken ball.
We'll see soon enough if they even give him the chance to call the plays.
 

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Risen Star;5080603 said:
I'm for coaches coaching and players playing.

The playcalling criticisms are merely a crutch for fans and even the GM who can't admit the talent isn't good enough. There are no plays to overcome an inept offensive line.

This.
 

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KB1122;5080695 said:
This is a sign of serious dysfunction in the organization.

Perhaps Romo should try to master quarterback first.

I don't want to be melodramatic, but I'm pretty sure this is a very early sign of the coming Apocalypse. At the very least, it's probably the end of the Dallas Cowboys, and I don't think I'm overstating anything when I say that.

And, I agree, Tony Romo should definitely master the QB position before Ed Werder releases an unsourced rumor about what might have gone on in his recent contract negotiations. What was Tony thinking? It's like the Cabo disaster just never even happened.
 

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Risen Star;5080603 said:
I'm for coaches coaching and players playing.

The playcalling criticisms are merely a crutch for fans and even the GM who can't admit the talent isn't good enough. There are no plays to overcome an inept offensive line.

But you at least have to try!

That double A-gap blitz in the final Wash. game, and our lack of response to it, was embarrassing.

Credit Jerry with one thing (begrudging so) i believe he was shocked by how poor we looked on offense in that game. In my personal opinion that 60 minutes was the final straw for Garrett, immediately we started hearing the 'change of direction' quotes from Jerry and the potential change of playcaller stories slowly emerged and gained traction in the following weeks.

Garretts' autonomy over the offense is over, and personally i feel it's long overdue.

Garrett is still the coach for only one reason, there is virtually no one else (competent), at this juncture, that would coach the Cowboys under the current setup.

If we crash and burn then Jerry might, grudgingly, convince a talented coach to come in with the autonomy (Jerry of course remains as titular head) to run things his way.

Imho of course.
 

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dreghorn2;5080710 said:
But you at least have to try!

That double A-gap blitz in the final Wash. game, and our lack of response to it, was embarrassing.

Credit Jerry with one thing (begrudging so) i believe he was shocked by how poor we looked on offense in that game. In my personal opinion that 60 minutes was the final straw for Garrett, immediately we started hearing the 'change of direction' quotes from Jerry and the potential change of playcaller stories slowly emerged and gained traction in the following weeks.

Garretts' autonomy over the offense is over, and personally i feel it's long overdue.

Garrett is still the coach for only one reason, there is virtually no one else (competent), at this juncture, that would coach the Cowboys under the current setup.

If we crash and burn then Jerry might, grudgingly, convince a talented coach to come in with the autonomy (Jerry of course remains as titular head) to run things his way.

Imho of course.

Fine, but if Jerry Jones truly feels that way, he should have fired Garrett and replaced him with Holmgren or even Gruden this offseason.

Having a neutered Garrett come back to coach a lame duck season with a new defensive scheme just wastes another year of everyone's career.
 

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TheSport78;5080639 said:
Ever think there could be schematic problems? It's not 100% personnel.

I honestly do not. I thought the coaching was fine last year. I think it will be fine this year. We have some good coaches on our staff. They just aren't magicians.

What are you going to do if you're the Cowboys' play caller right now? Take the ball out of Romo's hands more and rely on your OL and the run game? That's playing to your weakness.

I think Garrett would like to call a game differently. He just doesn't have the personnel to do it.
 

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Risen Star;5080725 said:
I honestly do not. I thought the coaching was fine last year. I think it will be fine this year. We have some good coaches on our staff. They just aren't magicians.

What are you going to do if you're the Cowboys' play caller right now? Take the ball out of Romo's hands more and rely on your OL and the run game? That's playing to your weakness.

I think Garrett would like to call a game differently. He just doesn't have the personnel to do it.

We can respectfully agree to disagree, but I do not see creativity and/or exploitation of match-ups with Garrett's offense.

Quick example: when's the last time you saw a WR go in motion pre-snap?

It's basically just line up, and play. There's no identity with the offense. To me, it seriously just looks like Garrett is calling a game of Madden.
 

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Broaddas was just on The Fan discussing this topic at about 8pm.

He spoke of how Romo has always been known by the staff as a Gym Rat; someone who if you were walking down the hall late at night and a light in one of the caches room was on, it would be Romo watching game film.
Lol...don't tell Cowboy Joe this.

He said you can ask him about a play in any game and he'll tell you were the safety was , what the alignments were, etc.
In other words, this is not too much for him at all.

He went on to say that during game, it seemed like Romo often had a better feel for the flow of the game than the coordinators.

Interesting
 

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The thing that I think a lot of people are forgetting about the no huddle is that it's about exploiting favorable match ups of personnel.

I think it was Jeremiah Trotter of the Eagles that had commented on how Romo knew what they were going to do on every defensive snap. Even telling to Trotter during the game to go ahead and creep on up. He knew he was coming. As stated in a previous post, it's been reported in the past that Romo studies film as much as any player in the league. This guy does his homework.

I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have Romo recognize a personnel match up that is favorable to the offense and have Romo exploit it until the offense either scores or forces the opposing team to burn a time out. I highly doubt that Romo is going to become the default play caller and we're going to become a "K Gun" type of offense.
 

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If you have a talented QB capable of contributing to the game plan, to allow him to do so would be good coaching.
 

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TheSport78;5080395 said:
Garrett still thinks it's 1993. It's about time Tony demanded some change.

This^^^

He doesn't have 93 personnel to do that game plans, the dominant OL which can dictate will , and also opportune defense getting ball back. In today's league it is more oriented towards offense that too passing off , D is at a disadvantage.

A good OL is needed to get half the play calling to be successful but unfortunately Jerrah doesn't want to invest on. I just hope someone steps up in the G positions and RT
 

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Romonater;5080686 said:
It's all on Romo, and I have a good feeling about that.


Romo is tired of trailing at halftime by multiple scores week in and week out running plays Garrett drew up playing Madden the night before.
 

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Risen Star;5080725 said:
I honestly do not. I thought the coaching was fine last year. I think it will be fine this year. We have some good coaches on our staff. They just aren't magicians.

What are you going to do if you're the Cowboys' play caller right now? Take the ball out of Romo's hands more and rely on your OL and the run game? That's playing to your weakness.

I think Garrett would like to call a game differently. He just doesn't have the personnel to do it.

I don't.

Garrett doesn't call a game like he has a weak O-line so I don't see him calling the game any differently with a better O-line.


I keep see'ing you say there aren't plays that help out a bad Oline. That is just wrong. There are a lot of things you can do to overcome bad oline play.

Waiting until the last second to snap the ball and passing it down field constantly isn't one of those ways.

Garrett is just awful at what he does.
 

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I have no problem with this. The only issue I have is that sometimes QB's who start to get more involved tend to forget about the run. I remember before Peyton came along, Dr. Z used to talk about how it was a shame that QB's didn't have more control over the offense since they would have a better feel for what is going on than a coach on the sidelines.

I'm not sure where this 'if he's not calling plays, then he's a lame duck head coach' talk came from. Most HC's in the league don't call plays. If they are good at it and are a good HC, it's really just a luxury because the owner doesn't have to worry about hiring new coordinators if they leave for somewhere else. But, it's a common practice.

This also tells me that many of the issues I see with the offense are more Garrett oriented than Romo oriented. That is..*if* I can ever trust a word that Mr. Blue Suit is saying.

But, this offense badly needs to speed up the plays at the line of scrimmage and needs to make things easier for the O-Line so they are not completely guessing on so many snap count cadences.






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Yakuza Rich;5080870 said:
I have no problem with this. The only issue I have is that sometimes QB's who start to get more involved tend to forget about the run. I remember before Peyton came along, Dr. Z used to talk about how it was a shame that QB's didn't have more control over the offense since they would have a better feel for what is going on than a coach on the sidelines.

I'm not sure where this 'if he's not calling plays, then he's a lame duck head coach' talk came from. Most HC's in the league don't call plays. If they are good at it and are a good HC, it's really just a luxury because the owner doesn't have to worry about hiring new coordinators if they leave for somewhere else. But, it's a common practice.

This also tells me that many of the issues I see with the offense are more Garrett oriented than Romo oriented. That is..*if* I can ever trust a word that Mr. Blue Suit is saying.

But, this offense badly needs to speed up the plays at the line of scrimmage and needs to make things easier for the O-Line so they are not completely guessing on so many snap count cadences.






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Garrett probably lost a lot of stroke after the Washington game.

The way he attacked their defense was embarrassing. Going max protect most of the game and sending 2 guys out on a route and not exploiting the middle of that defense.

Washington just brought the house and jammed our receivers at the line. Pretty much dictated us the entire night and we lost to a team that had a running QB on 1 leg that couldn't hardly throw.

Our O-line is bad but we can schematically help our situation out but we don't even try.
 
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