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with the NE/Buffalo game tonight. I'm so sick to death of the Patriots and now I have to hear tributes all night about how courageous Tedy Bruschi is to come back so soon after a stroke. Enough already. If you ask me, he's taking a hell of a risk by playing. He has enough rings, what more does he have to prove? Why couldn't he come back one week later so ESPN couldn't get their hands on covering his debut? ESPN drives me nuts with these "stories of courage." I really hope this works out for Bruschi because if it doesn't it's J.R Richard all over again 25 years later.
 

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Novacek84 said:
with the NE/Buffalo game tonight. I'm so sick to death of the Patriots and now I have to hear tributes all night about how courageous Tedy Bruschi is to come back so soon after a stroke. Enough already. If you ask me, he's taking a hell of a risk by playing. He has enough rings, what more does he have to prove? Why couldn't he come back one week later so ESPN couldn't get their hands on covering his debut? ESPN drives me nuts with these "stories of courage." I really hope this works out for Bruschi because if it doesn't it's J.R Richard all over again 25 years later.
I used to work with his wife Heidi and I went to their wedding. I couldn't be happier for him even though I am scared. He's a true good guy in the league. I wish him well. Seeing her in the stands crying with happiness was cool.

IMO. I respect yours, but don't agree in this case. It's a good story about people I know.
 

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Yeah I'm getting tired of them kissing Bruschi's arse too. He has a MINOR stroke, people, not a big deal. My 69 year old father had a stroke a few weeks ago and didn't even realize it. They did some tests on his heart and the doc said it looked like he had at least one heart attack before in his life, and he never knew it.

And this is a 69 year old man with a bullet lodged in his heart. Teddy Bruschi? He's a p**** in comparison.
 

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I don't want to watch this game. What if the experts were wrong? What if Bruschi dies on the field? I don't want to see that, nor do I want his wife and kids to see it.

I'm being a wuss.
 

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Yeah I'm getting tired of them kissing Bruschi's arse too. He has a MINOR stroke, people, not a big deal. My 69 year old father had a stroke a few weeks ago and didn't even realize it. They did some tests on his heart and the doc said it looked like he had at least one heart attack before in his life, and he never knew it.

And this is a 69 year old man with a bullet lodged in his heart. Teddy Bruschi? He's a p**** in comparison.
I hear you Rack, my 72 year old Dad had a major heart attack and drove himself to the damn hospital.
 

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The much ballyhooed news up here in NE is Tedy saw a slew of specialists and was told basically the same thing by all of them: that he has just as much chance of suffering a second stroke at home playing with his kids as he does on the field.

This particular phraseology is the wording of Michael Holley who wrote "Patriots Reign", is a local radio host, and is pretty close to Mumbles. And it got picked up by others.

I also heard Holley say that tho no 'pressure' was applied on Tedy to come back, Belichick wanted him back very badly to provide defensive leadership, and was 'encouraging' him to return.
 

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I used to work with his wife Heidi and I went to their wedding. I couldn't be happier for him even though I am scared. He's a true good guy in the league. I wish him well. Seeing her in the stands crying with happiness was cool.

IMO. I respect yours, but don't agree in this case. It's a good story about people I know.

I mostly agree with you. He has always been a class act in the NFL. It is a little tiring though, but we all knew they would do this. If this was a Dallas player, we wouldn't mind it. So let's give him credit and hope forthe best for him and his family. I am rooting for the Bills tonight though.

Now if they continue it throughout the game, I'll turn off the sound. But we are talking about ESPN idiots here. But let's all look on the bright side. We don't have to hear 60 minutes of Favre kissing tonight :laugh2:
 

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I hear you Rack, my 72 year old Dad had a major heart attack and drove himself to the damn hospital.


I doubt your dad's heart attack was major. If it was, he would be unconcious. Unless you are telling us your dad drove to the hospital while he was unconcious which I would have hard time believing.
 

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Yeah I'm getting tired of them kissing Bruschi's arse too. He has a MINOR stroke, people, not a big deal. My 69 year old father had a stroke a few weeks ago and didn't even realize it. They did some tests on his heart and the doc said it looked like he had at least one heart attack before in his life, and he never knew it.

And this is a 69 year old man with a bullet lodged in his heart. Teddy Bruschi? He's a p**** in comparison.
Not all strokes are the same. When Bruschi got his mild stroke, he lost his ability to walk, and was partially blind.

My best friend suffered a mild stroke when he was 20. He blacked out and collapsed. But yet he suffered no lingering effects.

What I'm saying is not all strokes are the same. I myself had a mild stroke. Only suffered a loss of balance and dizziness.

Not taking anything away from your dad. He sounds like one tough sonuvagun. Must have been quite a disciplinarian. I personally think that old people are tougher than the young people now.

My pops was chopping meat one time, and cut himself bad. Bleeding and all. He just wrapped a plaster around it, said "muthafugga", and went back to chopping.
 

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I mostly agree with you. He has always been a class act in the NFL. It is a little tiring though, but we all knew they would do this. If this was a Dallas player, we wouldn't mind it. So let's give him credit and hope forthe best for him and his family. I am rooting for the Bills tonight though.

Now if they continue it throughout the game, I'll turn off the sound. But we are talking about ESPN idiots here. But let's all look on the bright side. We don't have to hear 60 minutes of Favre kissing tonight :laugh2:
You'd rather hear more stories about TOs money demands I guess?

Not me. Schmaltz and a wuss in comparison to others is all well and good. This is a good guy and this is good for the game.

I'd rather hear some stories about good people now and then.

Oh yeah, I'd rather here 60 minutes of Favre kissing then more about TO.
 

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You'd rather hear more stories about TOs money demands I guess?

Not me. Scmaltz and a wuss in comparison to others is all well and good. This is a good guy and this is good for the game.

I'd rather hear some stories about good people now and then.

Oh yeah, I'd rather here 60 minutes of Favre kissing then more about TO.

Very true, fogot about the TO stuff. Guess I been too busy enjoying him and McChunky getting beat up in games. They do need more good stories, but media always want the bad stuff as lead headlines.
 

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Very true, fogot about the TO stuff. Guess I been too busy enjoying him and McChunky getting beat up in games. They do need more good stories, but media always want the bad stuff as lead headlines.
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Novacek84 said:
with the NE/Buffalo game tonight. I'm so sick to death of the Patriots and now I have to hear tributes all night about how courageous Tedy Bruschi is to come back so soon after a stroke. Enough already. If you ask me, he's taking a hell of a risk by playing. He has enough rings, what more does he have to prove? Why couldn't he come back one week later so ESPN couldn't get their hands on covering his debut? ESPN drives me nuts with these "stories of courage." I really hope this works out for Bruschi because if it doesn't it's J.R Richard all over again 25 years later.
For starters, I can't believe I have to see the Pats yet again this year. I live at least 1200-1400 miles from there. Watching so much of them and the Steelers this year almost makes me sick. Then after Primetime. the extreme lovefest begins with Bruschi. I understand he is an outstanding LB and great husband and wonderful father. But gimme a break. All the butt kissing going on the first 10 minutes of the game broadcast was way over the top.
 

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The much ballyhooed news up here in NE is Tedy saw a slew of specialists and was told basically the same thing by all of them: that he has just as much chance of suffering a second stroke at home playing with his kids as he does on the field.

This particular phraseology is the wording of Michael Holley who wrote "Patriots Reign", is a local radio host, and is pretty close to Mumbles. And it got picked up by others.

I also heard Holley say that tho no 'pressure' was applied on Tedy to come back, Belichick wanted him back very badly to provide defensive leadership, and was 'encouraging' him to return.

I don't know that this is entirely true. Bruschi had a patent foramen ovale which is a common congenital heart anomaly due to a defect in a valve between two of the chambers in the heart. This valve serves a useful purpose during fetal development but is supposed to seal off in adults. In a small proportion of adults it doesn't and these people are at increased risk of strokes as a result.

Bruschi had his defect sealed by an endovascular procedure (not a true surgery in the conventional sense). No one can definitely know the risks of the implanted device dislodging during heavy contact sports because it hasn't been studied sufficiently to know for sure. My guess is the supposition is that the device should not dislodge after several months even under blunt force trauma is based on theoretical considerations.

As to the nature of strokes, well they come in all varieties from minor dizziness to almost instant death.
 

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Not all strokes are the same. When Bruschi got his mild stroke, he lost his ability to walk, and was partially blind.

My best friend suffered a mild stroke when he was 20. He blacked out and collapsed. But yet he suffered no lingering effects.

What I'm saying is not all strokes are the same. I myself had a mild stroke. Only suffered a loss of balance and dizziness.

Not taking anything away from your dad. He sounds like one tough sonuvagun. Must have been quite a disciplinarian. I personally think that old people are tougher than the young people now.

My pops was chopping meat one time, and cut himself bad. Bleeding and all. He just wrapped a plaster around it, said "muthafugga", and went back to chopping.

heck, da bears fans on SNL used to have heart attacks all the time even in the middle of a show, they'd just pound it out and keep on with the show
 

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I don't think you would think it was over the top if it was the Cowboys heart and soul Michael Irvin that suffered something similar to Bruschi during our championship run, and came back halfway through the season when Dallas was struggling.

It's a huge deal to them. Getting their butts kicked right now though...
 

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ghst187 said:
heck, da bears fans on SNL used to have heart attacks all the time even in the middle of a show, they'd just pound it out and keep on with the show
Have you seen Chicagoans? All that Polish meat and deep dish pizzas have turned these people into walking heart attacks! Some of them have evolved to handle multiple heart attacks.
 

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Trip said:
I don't think you would think it was over the top if it was the Cowboys heart and soul Michael Irvin that suffered something similar to Bruschi during our championship run, and came back halfway through the season when Dallas was struggling.

It's a huge deal to them. Getting their butts kicked right now though...
Absolutely. You never think it's overdone when it's one of your own. You think, "This is all they have to say about this great person?"
 
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