ESPN: Shocking developments in San Diego *Merged*

Doomsday101

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SD could be a great fit for Norv. With a RB like LT in the lineup and a young QB in Rivers, Turner system could be a very good fit for them
 

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If I am Pete Carroll I stay away from this job. He probably has the best job in all of football. SD is set up for a nice run here with the talent they have, but USC is set up for the forseeable future with the way he recruits.
 

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I'm not sure San Diego's that great of a job anyway. People want to jump Cincinattii for being a bunch of thugs and felons but the Chargers have them beat hands down. Two of the front seven are proven 'roiders and are one strike away, a starting safety has an admitted gambling problem and is facing felony drug charges, a projected starting LB was shot by the police last year...

If ever a team was ready for an implosion.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1375932 said:
I'm not sure San Diego's that great of a job anyway. People want to jump Cincinattii for being a bunch of thugs and felons but the Chargers have them beat hands down. Two of the front seven are proven 'roiders and are one strike away, a starting safety has an admitted gambling problem and is facing felony drug charges, a projected starting LB was shot by the police last year...

If ever a team was ready for an implosion.
There may be some issues there, but they are nowhere near what the Bengals have become.

I know you are referring to merriman and Castillo as "roiders", but they are also two of the best players at their position. Castillo has not had a problem since he came into the league, he said he used before he came in. Merriman screwed the pooch, but he got his wake up call.

The offense is loaded with Rivers, Lt, Gates, McNeill. They also have some nice complementary WRs in Eric Parker and the developing Vincent Jackson.

You have a great GM...I mean that Manning trade worked out OK, right?

This is a great job, to try to find reasons to not like this job is questionable.
 

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burmafrd;1375912 said:
SD has a very good front office and scouts- the talent they have reeled in the last few years shows that. I wonder just how much Smith is responsible for? It was HIS decision to dump Brees and go with Rivers- who is also on the team because he demanded that he be picked. Marty wanted to keep Brees. I think THAT was the final straw between them. Marty's poor record in the playoffs is what doomed him. That said, I question who is going to want to come to SD that is established and have to deal with Smith. I really doubt that Carrol wants to.

Rivers is going to be a great QB, but one has to wonder if SD would have done better come playoff time with the veteran Brees.
 

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carphalen5150;1375945 said:
There may be some issues there, but they are nowhere near what the Bengals have become.

I know you are referring to merriman and Castillo as "roiders", but they are also two of the best players at their position. Castillo has not had a problem since he came into the league, he said he used before he came in. Merriman screwed the pooch, but he got his wake up call.

The offense is loaded with Rivers, Lt, Gates, McNeill. They also have some nice complementary WRs in Eric Parker and the developing Vincent Jackson.

You have a great GM...I mean that Manning trade worked out OK, right?

This is a great job, to try to find reasons to not like this job is questionable.



They had more arrests for more serious charges than the Bengals did, the media just didn't make as big a deal about them. I guess felony drug trafficing isn't as bad as having a few beers on a boat.

As far as a great GM, the only thing Smith's done is not screw things up. The Manning deal wasn't of their own volition. Manning said he wouldn't play for the Chargers so they took the best deal offered.

Even going back to the Vick deal, that really wasn't what they asked for. They didn't have the cash to pay a #1 overall at the time and Atlanta came in with a ludicrous offer.
 

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Who will they look at? Will they end up with a better coach than us? Would Wade P. have gotten that gig? Will they lure Pete Carroll back to the pro ranks? We shall see.
 

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mmillman;1375895 said:
This weakens a good team and if they hire someone like Rivera it will weaken the Bears. If they hire someone like Turner it weakens the 49ers and Rivers has to adjust to another system.

Marty was right when he didn't want Rivers and didn't want to part with Brees. Spanos and Smith are morons.:laugh2:

Turner will do great things with that Offense and with Rivers. Iw ouldn't get too excited.
 

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wayne_motley;1375893 said:
Firing Marty this late in the game makes no sense whatsoever........unless maybe you are going to hire Pete Carroll.

Maybe I'm crazy, but to me it's the only scenerio other than the owner and gm in SD being totally insane.

I agree with your points, except for the fact that Carroll will likely want full control. Smith isn't going to have any of that...

That being said, stranger things have happened...
 

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StanleySpadowski;1375953 said:
They had more arrests for more serious charges than the Bengals did, the media just didn't make as big a deal about them. I guess felony drug trafficing isn't as bad as having a few beers on a boat.

As far as a great GM, the only thing Smith's done is not screw things up. The Manning deal wasn't of their own volition. Manning said he wouldn't play for the Chargers so they took the best deal offered.

Even going back to the Vick deal, that really wasn't what they asked for. They didn't have the cash to pay a #1 overall at the time and Atlanta came in with a ludicrous offer.
So let me see...they were backed into a corner by Manning, yet still were able to secure Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding in the deal. 3 Pro Bowlers for a guy who did not want to play there...that worked out I guess.

You have issues with the Vick deal as well, but it worked out, so while you can criticize the principles of it, the deal worked out great for them.

Kiel got arrested...yep, he did. That arrest ruins this job? Sorry, I don't see it that way. You either see if he can be rehabilitated or you move on without him. That does not linger with the team...if it does then you have poor leadership running the team.
 

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Nunnelly and Pagano are the ones I would love here. Pagano is particular as the DC. I just want to see how this thing plays on in SD so maybe we can get our hands on one of them. I think Jerry can be patient on this one. No need to name a DC...Wade can basically serve in that role now, but if one of these guys can shake free they get the DC job. If not, Bowles gets the DC job...but we all know that Wade will be running the D anyways.
 
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