News: ESPN: Source: Browns QB Watson suspended 6 games

[baltcowboy]

I agree, but I was responding to what happens if the league appeals and Goodell hands out a year suspension and WATSON tries to take the case to federal court... he will lose, just like every other player that has tried to do so.

You think Goddell will disrespect a Federal Judge and overturn her ruling from 6 games to a season? In my field the Judges would have a big issue with a non judge making a ruling over a judge, especially at the federal level.

 

[HungryLion]

You think Goddell will disrespect a Federal Judge and overturn her ruling from 6 games to a season? In my field the Judges would have a big issue with a non judge making a ruling over a judge, especially at the federal level.

This judge is acting as an independent arbitrator. It’s not a legally binding decision.

the CBA allows Goodell to hand down whatever punishment he ultimately deems fit.

it doesn’t mean he will, but Goodell could and by law he would be within his rights as commissioner to do so.

 

[Reid1boys]

You think Goddell will disrespect a Federal Judge and overturn her ruling from 6 games to a season? In my field the Judges would have a big issue with a non judge making a ruling over a judge, especially at the federal level.

You do understand the contract between the players and the league says Goodell is given the authority to overrule the retired judge?
Thats why the federal court will toss watsons case.

 

[Reid1boys]

You think the league is going to drag this out? I know the Woke media wants its pound of flesh. The NFLPA would fight it and bring in the owners allegations.

Smh.....damn, im doing my best to help some of you understand this. Drag it out? The league can file the appeal within 3 days. The league could turn around 5 days later issue a ruling...1 full year suspension. Thats it, case done. Watson could foolishly take it to federal court...hell lose for reasons stated. This is not complicated.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

That is an insult to used dishrags everywhere since you can usually wash them and they are useful again; and even a used dishrag was at least useful once vs useless Chaz

Hahaha, good point

 

[ESisback]

Rose committed a huge infraction that affects the integrity of the game. Watson is merely a pervert. Not even in the same galaxy.

Disagree. You and I are perverts. If our “offenses” went to court, THEN it’s criminal, like Watson. Rose bet his team would win. How does that “affect the integrity of the game”? You’re right about different galaxies, though, and Watson is the criminal!

 

[Reid1boys]

Well, was it not an arbitor that originally decided the Zeke case? Or was that not afforded to him?

No, it wasn't "afforded him," because there was no arbitrator in the last class under which zekes case relied upon.

 

[stuckindc]

The whole Zeke sy

Everyone saying that Zeke was the precedent for this suspension is correct but the reason some of us feel like it could've been more is cause of Article 46. The commissioner has the power to make it much more based on the offense yet he's not going to. Zeke actually got more than 6 games but had to appeal to make it 6 correct?[/QUOTE. The whole Zeke suspension was pushed by Mara and his special 6 owner Power group. Goodwill was simply the puppet. Mara holds the power there. Just like the collusion BS with the Cowboys and Skins.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

No, it wasn't "afforded him," because there was no arbitrator in the last class under which zekes case relied upon.

Well, why is it different than what happened with Watson? Especially since it became clear to the league that the investigator thought he shouldn't be suspended. Especially when he appealed.

 

[Reid1boys]

Tough one. Not sure he would in this case, since both sides agreed to the arbitrator. I think that changes things.

Did any of the other cases involve and arbitrator?

No. This is the first case using an arbitrator.....but...here is the big BUT, they also agreed that either side can appeal if any punishment was handed down. Guess what else they agreed to? That sir Roger or his designee would be the person hearing the appeal.

 

[Reid1boys]

Well, why is it different than what happened with Watson? Especially since it became clear to the league that the investigator thought he shouldn't be suspended. Especially when he appealed.

Because in zekes case, Goodell had 100% responsibility to hear the case and make a decision.
Goodell has ZERO say in this case involving an agreed upon arbitrator. What is hard to understand about this?

 

[baltcowboy]

You do understand the contract between the players and the league says Goodell is given the authority to overrule the retired judge?
Thats why the federal court will toss watsons case.

So you are saying this was a farce. I tend to agree with you on that point. I just can’t see him suspending him for more the 8 games with the appeal.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Because in zekes case, Goodell had 100% responsibility to hear the case and make a decision.
Goodell has ZERO say in this case involving an agreed upon arbitrator. What is hard to understand about this?

That was the part that I was missing. I thought during the appeals process for Zeke, he had an arbitor during that time. I thought, at first Goodell was handling the suspension for Zeke and then it went to an arbitor. The fact that Watson got an arbitor and Zeke didn't makes the whole Zeke case even worse imo.

 

[LittleD]

What a joke the NFL and the Commish are. So many things wrong with that so called suspension.

 

[baltcowboy]

Smh.....damn, im doing my best to help some of you understand this. Drag it out? The league can file the appeal within 3 days. The league could turn around 5 days later issue a ruling...1 full year suspension. Thats it, case done. Watson could foolishly take it to federal court...hell lose for reasons stated. This is not complicated.

A drag out comes from the NFLPA taking this to court. Come on dude. It happened with Zeke and Brady. This is actually a good argument from the players side.

 

[Reid1boys]

That was the part that I was missing. I thought during the appeals process for Zeke, he had an arbitor during that time. I thought, at first Goodell was handling the suspension for Zeke and then it went to an arbitor. The fact that Watson got an arbitor and Zeke didn't makes the whole Zeke case even worse imo.

Zekes case, imo was the main reason an arbitrator was added to the current cba.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe Goodell increases it to 8 games.

But I don't see him doing anything drastic.

Why would he do that? You really think the NFL is going to open up a huge can of worms just to increase it 2 games?

 

[Reid1boys]

Why would he do that? You really think the NFL is going to open up a huge can of worms just to increase it to 2 games?

And an additional 110k? Lol

 

[kskboys]

Be as condescending as you want, I'm saying you don't know. That is all.

I've already agreed that I don't know, and that 90% is an arbitrary number. Maybe it's 60, maybe it's 95, however you're getting caught up in exact numbers when exact numbers are irrelevant to the point. Inappropriate behavior does not mean sociopathic.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Zekes case, imo was the main reason an arbitrator was added to the current cba.

Yes, but it's still ridiculous that it took a case where the league's own investigator stated that a suspension wasn't warranted to figure out that such a thing was needed. That's all the more reason that this is even worse in my view. What more did the league need there? They had the one person that interviewed the accuser who stated that it was rubbish. If Zeke had say, an NY on his helmet, he'd have gotten away with no suspension. But, because it's a star, he got 6 anyway. The only thing arbitrary about his case before was how Goodell feels about us.