ESPN top 10 WR's all time...

[Doomsday]

Moss at #2 is a joke!

No way I put a one dimensional player who quits on his team that high.

 

[Q_the_man]

Moss has always been better than TO and I like TO alot, but take away Moss 2 years in Oakland and put him on any other team in the league his stats would be even better.....Moss is a great talent and would have loved to had draft him, TO is also a great player but he does drop to many passes, where as Moss makes catches look like catching a tennis ball by urself....

 

[cowboysG]

For those ESPN guys who ranked these players and rip TO I have a question.

#2 on the list is a player who admits he takes plays off.

So which is worse, a player with a few drops or a player takes plays off?

Bingo.

 

[Future]

For those ESPN guys who ranked these players and rip TO I have a question.

#2 on the list is a player who admits he takes plays off.

So which is worse, a player with a few drops or a player takes plays off?

I'd be willing to bet that a LOT of players take plays off. The physicality of the NFL demands it IMO.

 

[gazmc_06]

Moss has always been better than TO and I like TO alot, but take away Moss 2 years in Oakland and put him on any other team in the league his stats would be even better.....Moss is a great talent and would have loved to had draft him, TO is also a great player but he does drop to many passes, where as Moss makes catches look like catching a tennis ball by urself....

Moss is not a better receiver than T.O. - he has amazing stats and is a great player, but he's not complete enough. He played his part, but he's been on some of the best offenses ever (with Brady and with Culpepper), any great receiver would thrive in that offense.

Those two seasons in Oakland were the only years he wasn't on a great offensive team, T.O. has put up numbers on average teams as well as great teams.

 

[Eskimo]

Homerism alert here. Moss >> TO. Look at Brady pre-Moss and Brady post-Moss. Look at Culpepper pre-Moss and post-Moss (although the knee injury obviously played a big role here).

Moss is a once-a-generation type talent. If he kept his head on straight, it would be Moss #1 and Rice #2.

 

[gazmc_06]

Mcnabb pre-Owens, Mcnabb with Owens...it works the same. Brady won three superbowls without Moss.

It's not homerism.

 

[Eskimo]

Mcnabb pre-Owens, Mcnabb with Owens...it works the same. Brady won three superbowls without Moss.

It's not homerism.

Moss fundamentally changes the way you play defense against him because of his elite ball skills, speed and height. There is just noone you can compare him to.

Owens is good and competes with Harrison for the second best receiver in the NFL over the last 10 years but he is not Moss good. If Moss had consistently applied himself he would have been the greatest WR ever.

 

[Eskimo]

BTW, if you don't believe homerism runs deep here, look at the best WR, QB and RB threads.

 

[gazmc_06]

I'm not saying it doesn't exist, it clearly does but not in this particular disussion. Some people not liking Moss will play a part, but most will be able to admit he is great. Moss was taken away completelt in the playoff's because people realised that if you take away the deep ball you take away Moss...he doesn't have a complete enough game to be the best.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I would not rate Randy Moss ahead of T.O. or Irvin...

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Jerry Rice Chris Carte two best WR ever. Irvin TO and Harrison can round out the rest of my top 5. Look at these guys stats they are all HOF and when they retire they will have better numbers than every1 but Rice.

 

[burmafrd]

I would NEVER rate a player that takes time off and basically quits on a team like Moss did. What he did once he can do again. Never trust a quiter.

 

[joseephuss]

Jerry Rice Chris Carte two best WR ever. Irvin TO and Harrison can round out the rest of my top 5. Look at these guys stats they are all HOF and when they retire they will have better numbers than every1 but Rice.

Harrison is not one of the top 5 receivers of all time. I like Harrison and think he is a fine receiver, but he completely disappears in the playoffs. He has 2 career playoff TDs and both of those came in the same game. He averages 74.9 yards per game in the regular season to only 57.5 in the playoffs. He averages 0.7 TDs per game in the regular season to only 0.13 in the playoffs. It is not as if he has played on bad teams. He has had plenty of opportunities and just has failed to do much with them.

He is very good. He is a hall of famer in my book, but not top 5 all time. Maybe not even top 10. Guys that are the absolute best raise their game in the post season. Harrison has not done that.

Just a little comparison to accentuate my point. Irvin played at a high level in the playoffs.

Marvin Harrison
15 playoff games
62 receptions
862 yards
13.9 avg
2 TDs

Michael Irvin
16 games
87 receptions
1314 yards
15.1 avg
8 TDs

 

[NextGenBoys]

Moss may not be the best receiver, but he's the most dominant. You cant argue that.

The guy is 6'4 who can outrun most corners, and can jump over most safeties coming to double team him. He may not run the best routes, or be tough over the middle, but he is the most dominating receiver in football. Point blank.

 

[gazmc_06]

Moss may not be the best receiver, but he's the most dominant. You cant argue that.

The guy is 6'4 who can outrun most corners, and can jump over most safeties coming to double team him. He may not run the best routes, or be tough over the middle, but he is the most dominating receiver in football. Point blank.

No, he's the most dominant deep threat, not overall receiver. Owens can go over the middle, go in motion, go deep, he could even line up at TE or RB at times...Moss is only a deep threat.