News: ESPN: What Garrett can learn from Ron Rivera

[NewsBot]

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IRVING, Texas – On Tuesday the Carolina Panthers handed coach Ron Rivera a three-year contract extension through 2017. According to reports he will make between $4-$5 million a year. The point of this post isn’t to suggest Jason Garrett, who is entering the final year of his contract as Dallas Cowboys head coach, should receive an extension. I believe Jerry Jones makes a good point about “lame duck,” status when he said at the Senior Bowl he’s seen plenty of coaches not get it done when they have multiple years on their contracts.

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[WoodysGirl]

See... I'm not the only one who sees the similarity between Rivera and Garrett's situations. Hmph!

 

[Risen Star]

I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?

 

[WoodysGirl]

I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?

IMO, the overall point is that Rivera entered last season very much on the hot seat, turned the team around, got them to the playoffs, and got a contract extension.

Garrett enters the 2014 season under very similar circumstances. He would likely need to achieve what Rivera did in order to be retained. The coaching circle is small, maybe JG can go pick Rivera's brain to see what he did different. *shrug*

 

[Risen Star]

IMO, the overall point is that Rivera entered last season very much on the hot seat, turned the team around, got them to the playoffs, and got a contract extension.

Garrett enters the 2014 season under very similar circumstances. He would likely need to achieve what Rivera did in order to be retained. The coaching circle is small, maybe JG can go pick Rivera's brain to see what he did different. *shrug*

Ron: Okay, the first thing I did is I made sure I had a sane owner and an actual legit personnel department.

~click~

Ron: Hello?.....Hello?......Jason?....Are you still there?

 

[adamknite]

I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?

How to sign a contract extension?

but seriously... I think it was trying to say "things could turn around if Garrett keeps it together and not focus on the "lame duck" status" and that's what he was supposed to learn from Rivera (because of all the early season record followed by late season record talk), but who knows. It seemed like it's focus was more about comparing two situations than it was about Garrett actually taking a page out of Rivera's book.

 

[WoodysGirl]

How to sign a contract extension?

but seriously... I think it was trying to say "things could turn around if Garrett keeps it together and not focus on the "lame duck" status" and that's what he was supposed to learn from Rivera (because of all the early season record followed by late season record talk), but who knows. It seemed like it's focus was more about comparing two situations than it was about Garrett actually taking a page out of Rivera's book.

Sometimes the thought process isn't all that deep. "Hey look! Two similar situations!"

I don't know that I would've made an article about it, but at least I know I wasn't alone in looking at the two situations and coming away with that particular viewpoint.

 

[Risen Star]

How to sign a contract extension?

but seriously... I think it was trying to say "things could turn around if Garrett keeps it together and not focus on the "lame duck" status" and that's what he was supposed to learn from Rivera (because of all the early season record followed by late season record talk), but who knows. It seemed like it's focus was more about comparing two situations than it was about Garrett actually taking a page out of Rivera's book.

Exactly my point. Apparently Garrett could learn from Rivera that he needs to win more games so he can sign a contract extension.

Their situations are totally different. This, IMO, is pretty much a waste of a read.

 

[adamknite]

Sometimes the thought process isn't all that deep. "Hey look! Two similar situations!"

I don't know that I would've made an article about it, but at least I know I wasn't alone in looking at the two situations and coming away with that particular viewpoint.

You can definitely see the similarities between the two. Hopefully things work out similarly as well, Garrett seems like a good guy but I don't think I can take another 8-8 season losing to an NFC east rival the last game of the season to miss the playoffs scenario.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The coaching circle is small, maybe JG can go pick Rivera's brain to see what he did different. *shrug*

Keep the front 7 healthy. That would be a good start.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You can definitely see the similarities between the two. Hopefully things work out similarly as well, Garrett seems like a good guy but I don't think I can take another 8-8 season losing to an NFC east rival the last game of the season to miss the playoffs scenario.

Agreed...Team needs to move off 8-8, one way or another. Either lose alot or win alot, but get off 8-8. I also believe that if he got off the 8-8 thing, had a true winning season, 11-5, 12-4, with a playoff berth, then it'll warrant a consideration for an extension. But if it's 9-7, 10-6, I prefer the team to just move on, playoff berth or not. 1-2 extra wins do not signal progress...at least for me.

 

[vlad]

I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?

Haha, exactly - I had to re-read this. Was the quality of journalism always this poor?

 

[Alexander]

I don't get it. What is he supposed to learn from Ron Rivera?

Rivera coached like his job was on the line. He took a lot of risks and got the players to rally behind him. While it appears that Garrett has the team "battling" for him, I do not get the same sensation that Garrett has them lined up behind him to save his job. There is a big difference when you have a coach who does not have the backing of the GM versus one who is treated like a pet project by an owner/GM.

 

[TheCount]

See... I'm not the only one who sees the similarity between Rivera and Garrett's situations. Hmph!

What's missing from the article is that Rivera earned the nickname "Riverboat Ron" this past season because he stopped coaching like a computer and started taking bigger gambles. It paid off for an underachieving team with a good bit of talent on the field.

 

[adamknite]

Agreed...Team needs to move off 8-8, one way or another. Either lose alot or win alot, but get off 8-8. I also believe that if he got off the 8-8 thing, had a true winning season, 11-5, 12-4, with a playoff berth, then it'll warrant a consideration for an extension. But if it's 9-7, 10-6, I prefer the team to just move on, playoff berth or not. 1-2 extra wins do not signal progress...at least for me.

I could not agree more with you.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Plus Rivera is obviously a defensive guy, and he's built "his" side of the ball into one of the very best in football -- maybe the best. Garrett's offense isn't as good as it was when he first started calling plays eight years ago.

But I still don't think anyone would put Rivera in that top echelon of NFL coaches, which should be the goal. Of course Todd Archer isn't concerned with that. He just wants Garrett to get an extension any way he can.

 

[WoodysGirl]

What's missing from the article is that Rivera earned the nickname "Riverboat Ron" this past season because he stopped coaching like a computer and started taking bigger gambles. It paid off for an underachieving team with a good bit of talent on the field.

I'd like to see a bit of that out of Garrett, too. They can toss out that reverse, double-reverse, whatever play he got in his playbook, tho. That thing hasn't worked EVER.

But a flea flicker would be awesome. A little trickery here and there, get outside the numbers a bit, and just go with your gut sometimes would be cool, too.

 

[Future]

The biggest problem I have with comparing the two is that Rivera hasn't been with that organization since 2007.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Yes, it is a brilliant idea for Garrett to build a time machine and go back and accumulate 15years of coaching experience before taking a top job.

 

[jobberone]

See... I'm not the only one who sees the similarity between Rivera and Garrett's situations. Hmph!

Okaaayy! One attaboy....I mean attagirl.....I mean attaperson to WG.