ESPN: Wilson to be released.....WE SHOULD GET HIM!

Ayodele has become a good ILB and we don't need another vet LB whose got back problems. We do need add another ILB whose young and can learn the system to replace Fowler but also hopefully with some upside both against the run and the pass. We don't need a vet LB with back problems.
 
sago1;1455329 said:
Ayodele has become a good ILB and we don't need another vet LB whose got back problems. We do need add another ILB whose young and can learn the system to replace Fowler but also hopefully with some upside both against the run and the pass. We don't need a vet LB with back problems.

Al Wilson is one of the finest LBs in the NFL. If he can pass a physical and we can make a deal that both sides would accept, I would take him.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455334 said:
Al Wilson is one of the finest LBs in the NFL. If he can pass a physical and we can make a deal that both sides would accept, I would take him.


So you want another Rivera on the team?

:confused:

Plus, he's small, where would you put him?
 
5Stars;1455341 said:
So you want another Rivera on the team?

:confused:

Plus, he's small, where would you put him?


Can you post whatever information you have that specifies his injury is as serious as Rivera's was? I would like to see that.

He would play ILB in place of Bradie.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455334 said:
Al Wilson is one of the finest LBs in the NFL. If he can pass a physical and we can make a deal that both sides would accept, I would take him.
Al Wilson was one of the finest LBs in the NFL but the major injury concerns have knocked him from that echelon. You say, "if he can pass a physical," and those could prove to be famous last words for a guy with a back problem who has already failed one physical earlier this offseason.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455350 said:
Can you post whatever information you have that specifies his injury is as serious as Rivera's was? I would like to see that.

He would play ILB in place of Bradie.


You are smarter then that, ABQ. You know good and well that I would not have that info, however, you should know about back problems and pro athletes, right?

:rolleyes:

We will see who signs him, if anyone does. And if the Cowboys sign him I will give you your just due...

Now, stop being sarcastic, and get back to work!!
 
ThreeSportStar80;1455326 said:
As much as I like Al Wilson, a back injury is a serious red flag ask Darren Woodson about it....

Or Aikman or Haley.
 
Roughneck;1455365 said:
Al Wilson was one of the finest LBs in the NFL but the major injury concerns have knocked him from that echelon. You say, "if he can pass a physical," and those could prove to be famous last words for a guy with a back problem who has already failed one physical earlier this offseason.


I know this. I know that you can't have everything in one year through the draft. I know that if your a champoinship calibur team, sometimes a good player at the end of his career might be a player that gets you over the top. We don't need Al Wilson to be here for 5 years. We need a guy who can play ILB for a couple of season until we have somebody ready to step in. If he can pass a physical, then I say sign him. He may work or not but you can't take it with you. If he can give you 2 decent years, then he's 10 times the player we currently have playing ILB.
 
5Stars;1455366 said:
You are smarter then that, ABQ. You know good and well that I would not have that info, however, you should know about back problems and pro athletes, right?

:rolleyes:

We will see who signs him, if anyone does. And if the Cowboys sign him I will give you your just due...

Now, stop being sarcastic, and get back to work!!

I'll tell you what I know. I know that nobody on this board is qualified to say if his back is OK or not. I know that if we offer him a contract and our medical staff clears him, then that's a much better evaluation of this players health then you or I or anybody on this board can give. I know that if he can play, he's light years better then what we have. If he can pass a physical, then play him.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455387 said:
I'll tell you what I know. I know that nobody on this board is qualified to say if his back is OK or not. I know that if we offer him a contract and our medical staff clears him, then that's a much better evaluation of this players health then you or I or anybody on this board can give. I know that if he can play, he's light years better then what we have. If he can pass a physical, then play him.

The Giants' doctors are qualified.

It was enough for them to fail him on his physical - and they're a linebacker-starved team.
 
stasheroo;1455393 said:
The Giants' doctors are qualified.

It was enough for them to fail him on his physical - and they're a linebacker-starved team.

OK, that's a fair point, but I ask you, what do you have to lose? I mean, you guys act as if it's costing you something. If he can't pass the physical, then he doesn't get paid. It's not like it's costing us anything in picks or even real cap.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455403 said:
OK, that's a fair point, but I ask you, what do you have to lose? I mean, you guys act as if it's costing you something. If he can't pass the physical, then he doesn't get paid. It's not like it's costing us anything in picks or even real cap.

At this point, he's a medical risk. Otherwise the Broncos wouldn't be cutting him.

It could cost this team whatever he would get paid in any signing bonus.

And it would cost another linebacker a spot on the roster.

Where does it leave the team if in Week 2, Wilson's back issues flare up and he's unable to play?

The team is out money and talent.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455403 said:
OK, that's a fair point, but I ask you, what do you have to lose? I mean, you guys act as if it's costing you something. If he can't pass the physical, then he doesn't get paid. It's not like it's costing us anything in picks or even real cap.

Read some more about him, ABQ. You might have a point...but, I don't know.




A much-discussed trade that would have sent Denver Broncos star middle linebacker Al Wilson to the New York Giants was severely jeopardized Friday, and perhaps scuttled entirely, when the five-time Pro Bowl performer failed a physical examination.
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Two league sources familiar with the trade discussions said that Giants team physicians and front office personnel were concerned by a neck problem discerned during the examination.
Trade talks had progressed to the point where Wilson traveled east to meet with the Giants, and the expectation was that a deal would have been consummated had he passed the exam. It is believed the teams had agreed to most of the principle elements of the trade, with the deal contingent on Wilson's health. Clubs typically include a physical examination in trade agreements.
It is not known what the Giants would have surrendered in the deal. Some reports indicated New York would part with third-year defensive end Justin Tuck, but they were unfounded.
It is doubtful, sources said, that the trade talks will be revived.
Wilson, 29, has missed only three games in eight seasons, never more than one in a given year. He was carted from the field with a neck injury last December after running into teammate and defensive tackle Gerard Warren, but returned to play the following week. He did miss the final game of the season with neck and thumb injuries. He subsequently had offseason surgery to address the thumb injury.
An online search of Wilson's medical history since entering the NFL referred to only two games missed because of any neck injuries.
In the NFL, however, there are no leaguewide standards for physicals, and examinations are totally subjective. Often a team will "fail" a player on a physical, not only because of the medical risk involved, but also because of financial exposure. Wilson has three seasons remaining on his current contract -- at base salaries of $5.2 million (2007), $3.65 million (2008), $5.15 million (2009) and $6.8 million (2010) -- and that could have been a factor in the Giants' decision.
Also, just because Wilson did not pass the Giants' standards does not mean he cannot play for the Broncos again.
A first-round choice in the 1999 draft, Wilson has been the subject of trade speculation for much of the offseason. ESPN.com reported earlier this month that Detroit officials had attempted to acquire Wilson from Denver in the deal that sent cornerback Dre Bly to the Broncos and offensive tackle George Foster and tailback Tatum Bell to the Lions. The Philadelphia Eagles also inquired about Wilson's availability.
But the NFL Network reported this week that the Broncos were discussing the trade with the New York Giants, and the linebacker's agent confirmed there had been negotiations involving his client.
Despite his five Pro Bowl appearances, Wilson is not a high profile defender. But he has been one of the NFL's steadiest playmakers, a tackling machine with 960 career stops, and the rare middle linebacker who can stay on the field for third down and be effective, as reflected in his 21 ½ sacks, five interceptions and 49 pass deflections.
Had he been traded, Wilson would have moved to weakside linebacker in New York, since the Giants already possess a standout middle linebacker in Antonio Pierece. Denver would probably have filled the vacancy created by his departure by moving starting strongside linebacker D.J. Williams, a first-round choice in 2004, into the middle. Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
 
stasheroo;1455413 said:
At this point, he's a medical risk. Otherwise the Broncos wouldn't be cutting him.

It could cost this team whatever he would get paid in any signing bonus.

And it would cost another linebacker a spot on the roster.

Where does it leave the team if in Week 2, Wilson's back issues flare up and he's unable to play?

The team is out money and talent.

Bronco's situation is much different then ours. They are on the hook for a much bigger chunk of cap then we would be. Basically, we would be on the hook for whatever money we offered. They are on the hook for 5 million plus.
 
5Stars;1455416 said:
Read some more about him, ABQ. You might have a point...but, I don't know.




A much-discussed trade that would have sent Denver Broncos star middle linebacker Al Wilson to the New York Giants was severely jeopardized Friday, and perhaps scuttled entirely, when the five-time Pro Bowl performer failed a physical examination.
Al Wilson
s4680.jpg
Linebacker
Denver Broncos

Profile2006 SEASON STATISTICSTotSoloAstFFSackInt1027923110

Two league sources familiar with the trade discussions said that Giants team physicians and front office personnel were concerned by a neck problem discerned during the examination.
Trade talks had progressed to the point where Wilson traveled east to meet with the Giants, and the expectation was that a deal would have been consummated had he passed the exam. It is believed the teams had agreed to most of the principle elements of the trade, with the deal contingent on Wilson's health. Clubs typically include a physical examination in trade agreements.
It is not known what the Giants would have surrendered in the deal. Some reports indicated New York would part with third-year defensive end Justin Tuck, but they were unfounded.
It is doubtful, sources said, that the trade talks will be revived.
Wilson, 29, has missed only three games in eight seasons, never more than one in a given year. He was carted from the field with a neck injury last December after running into teammate and defensive tackle Gerard Warren, but returned to play the following week. He did miss the final game of the season with neck and thumb injuries. He subsequently had offseason surgery to address the thumb injury.
An online search of Wilson's medical history since entering the NFL referred to only two games missed because of any neck injuries.
In the NFL, however, there are no leaguewide standards for physicals, and examinations are totally subjective. Often a team will "fail" a player on a physical, not only because of the medical risk involved, but also because of financial exposure. Wilson has three seasons remaining on his current contract -- at base salaries of $5.2 million (2007), $3.65 million (2008), $5.15 million (2009) and $6.8 million (2010) -- and that could have been a factor in the Giants' decision.
Also, just because Wilson did not pass the Giants' standards does not mean he cannot play for the Broncos again.
A first-round choice in the 1999 draft, Wilson has been the subject of trade speculation for much of the offseason. ESPN.com reported earlier this month that Detroit officials had attempted to acquire Wilson from Denver in the deal that sent cornerback Dre Bly to the Broncos and offensive tackle George Foster and tailback Tatum Bell to the Lions. The Philadelphia Eagles also inquired about Wilson's availability.
But the NFL Network reported this week that the Broncos were discussing the trade with the New York Giants, and the linebacker's agent confirmed there had been negotiations involving his client.
Despite his five Pro Bowl appearances, Wilson is not a high profile defender. But he has been one of the NFL's steadiest playmakers, a tackling machine with 960 career stops, and the rare middle linebacker who can stay on the field for third down and be effective, as reflected in his 21 ½ sacks, five interceptions and 49 pass deflections.
Had he been traded, Wilson would have moved to weakside linebacker in New York, since the Giants already possess a standout middle linebacker in Antonio Pierece. Denver would probably have filled the vacancy created by his departure by moving starting strongside linebacker D.J. Williams, a first-round choice in 2004, into the middle. Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

I can understand why the Giants nixed the deal for Wilson. If they went through with the trade, they would have been giving up a player and assuming Wilson's contract. For us, he would be an FA. We would be out nothing and on the hook for nothing, so to speak. I just don't see the harm in checking it out. He's been one heck of a player in the NFL.
 
ABQCOWBOY;1455426 said:
I can understand why the Giants nixed the deal for Wilson. If they went through with the trade, they would have been giving up a player and assuming Wilson's contract. For us, he would be an FA. We would be out nothing and on the hook for nothing, so to speak. I just don't see the harm in checking it out. He's been one heck of a player in the NFL.


Well, what got me to side a little with you is because it states that team fail a player sometimes for other reasons then an injury. So his back problem might have given the Giants an out for the deal because of what you just mentioned about them having to assume his contract.

But, yeah, hey...if it don't cost much...give it a shot. I don't know...

:cool:
 

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