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Updated: November 12, 2009, 6:22 PM ET
Ref unsure if play gave Eagles 1st down
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By Calvin Watkins
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IRVING -- NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said Wednesday night on NFL Network that there was a slight mistake in the Philadelphia Eagles-Dallas Cowboys game on Sunday night.

Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was ruled short after a quarterback dive on a fourth-and-1 with 11:01 to play in the fourth quarter. Eagles coach Andy Reid challenged the ruling and after a review, the referees said the ruling on the field was correct. It cost the Eagles their final timeout of the game, something that would come back to haunt them later.

Pereira said of the spot by referee Walt Coleman: "I think I would have moved it."

Replays showed that McNabb landed near the edge of the Eagles logo but the ball was spotted behind that. Pereira said the ball should have been moved a few inches, but he wasn't sure if it would have given the Eagles a first down.

"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it.

"It wasn't a touchdown, it was a first down but they didn't make it. I'm telling you, I was watching it and the [official] spotted it exactly where [McNabb was down]. He took the ball from his hands and put it right there. Now I don't know how you can spot it any better than that. [McNabb] never reached out."

Phillips, in a discussion with reporters, demonstrated how the official took the ball from McNabb and spotted the ball. The Cowboys coach is being careful what he says because he doesn't want to get fined by the league for criticizing the officials.

Phillips said he wouldn't second-guess whether or not Reid should have challenged the call but did say 29 percent of challenges regarding the spot for a first down is overturned.

"Spotting the ball is hard to challenge," Phillips said.

NFL teams have converted 62 percent of fourth-and-1 plays, and the Eagles rank 28th in the league at 25 percent. The Cowboys are the only NFL team without attempting a fourth-and-1 play in the league.
 

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Maybe we should just put a GPS inside the ball and let the satellite determine placement.
 

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"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it."

:starspin
 

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Phrozen Phil;3073592 said:
Maybe we should just put a GPS inside the ball and let the satellite determine placement.

In all honesty, I don't know why there isn't some type of device in the football or the laces and a sensor across the goal line atleast to eliminate some iffy calls. If it's truly about "getting it right" then there's no excuse for not implimenting something so simple.
 

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adamknite;3073596 said:
"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it."

:starspin


:bow:

That's all I took from the post as well. This shows you how competitive Wade is as a defensive mind and should set the tone for the whole season.


This quote, to me, is actually the most exciting thing all season and the most promising. I believe this defense will continue playing better and will be truly elite going into the playoffs. Wow! WADE!
 

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Yeah well I would've thrown the flag for PI on Asante Samuel in the endzone...but they didn't. Quit crying Eagle fans, there were numerous bad calls in that game BOTH ways, Dallas made 1 or 2 more bigger plays than you and that's why we won.
 

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adamknite;3073596 said:
"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it."

:starspin

:bow: :bow: That's winner-speak right thurr. Love it.
 

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TheSport78;3073619 said:
Yeah well I would've thrown the flag for PI on Asante Samuel in the endzone...but they didn't. Quit crying Eagle fans, there were numerous bad calls in that game BOTH ways, Dallas made 1 or 2 more bigger plays than you and that's why we won.
Can you challenge PI? I don't think you can. If we could've, we would've won that challenge.
 

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adamknite;3073596 said:
"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it."

:starspin
Seems like that statement stood out for everybody. How's that for leadership?
 

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Boyzmamacita;3073648 said:
Can you challenge PI? I don't think you can. If we could've, we would've won that challenge.

Nope, even though it's probably one of the most phantom calls in football. If we get PI on that play, we're on the 1 yard line and likely get a TD, which gives us an extra 4 points. We would've been up 24-13 on Philly instead and the 4th and inches conversion probably doesn't even matter.
 

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Phillips said he wouldn't second-guess whether or not Reid should have challenged the call but did say 29 percent of challenges regarding the spot for a first down is overturned.

Good for Wade. I like that he knows the stat.
 

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TheSport78;3073619 said:
Yeah well I would've thrown the flag for PI on Asante Samuel in the endzone...but they didn't. Quit crying Eagle fans, there were numerous bad calls in that game BOTH ways, Dallas made 1 or 2 more bigger plays than you and that's why we won.

exactly.... this is a non issue
 

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newnationcb;3073613 said:
:bow:

That's all I took from the post as well. This shows you how competitive Wade is as a defensive mind and should set the tone for the whole season.


This quote, to me, is actually the most exciting thing all season and the most promising. I believe this defense will continue playing better and will be truly elite going into the playoffs. Wow! WADE!

I look at Coach Wade and think about the pillsbury doughboy- but that statement says a lot about his mindset. Anyway, it's a really fine job he's doing with the defense.

Risco
 

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viman96;3073587 said:
"I haven't talked to [Pereira]. From what he said, he might have changed it some but it still wasn't close," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said Thursday. "I have to talk to Mike. We would have stopped them anyway even if they would have made it.

The bandwagon is gaining speed, it is not too late to get on. ALL ABOARD!!:)
 

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risco;3074218 said:
I look at Coach Wade and think about the pillsbury doughboy- but that statement says a lot about his mindset. Anyway, it's a really fine job he's doing with the defense.

Risco

Wade's outward persona maybe like .

Doughboy.jpg


However, inside Wade resides a nasty defensive coach.
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That quote from Wade is the best since he's been here.

He's never been that confident in front of the camera, or if he has I definitely haven't seen it.
 
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