Evaluating all 56 sacks the Cowboys allowed in 2018

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Didn't they go something like 15 consecutive quarter with only a touchdown or two?

Nope.

They had zero points in the trap game against Indy and scored 13 in the win over the Saints team that was widely considered the best team in the NFL.

In the other six games they scored 22 in one, then 27 or more points in the other five.
 

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Nope.

They had zero points in the trap game against Indy and scored 13 in the win over the Saints team that was widely considered the best team in the NFL.

In the other six games they scored 22 in one, then 27 or more points in the other five.
How many quarters did Dak throw a touchdown pass from the New Orleans 2nd quarter, through the Eagles and Colts games, and to halftime of the Tampa game?

I think it's one in 13 quarters or something.

And only 2 or 3 of those quarters did they even score am offensive touchdown.
 

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How many quarters did Dak throw a touchdown pass from the New Orleans 2nd quarter, through the Eagles and Colts games, and to halftime of the Tampa game?

So you have moved the goal posts from "Touchdowns seemed like climbing Mount Everest" in the second half of the season to "Sure, we scored a ton of points but there was short stretch in our 7 - 1 run against elite defenses where the TDs weren't passing TDs".
 

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So you have moved the goal posts from "Touchdowns seemed like climbing Mount Everest" in the second half of the season to "Sure, we scored a ton of points but there was short stretch in our 7 - 1 run against elite defenses where the TDs weren't passing TDs".

No, most of those quarters were touchdown-less.

The Eagles were missing their entire secondary and were ripe for a whipping, and we wore out our punter that day. They were literally playing with corners they drug off the street.
 

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We "wore out our punter" and "touchdowns were like Mount Everest" in a game where Dallas scored 29 points and Dak had 455 yards passing?
I suggest you go re-watch that game.

He threw two shoulda-been picks that ended up as Amari touchdowns, including the game winner.

The 80-yard TD was a horrible throw that a real NFL corner would have picked. Idiot corner ran himself out if bounds. The game winner was straight to the defensive back, who just bobbled it to Amari.

Don't confuse lucky with good.
 

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Three more pages of this thread and he will be arguing "In night games played in November on Eastern Standard Time, this team sucks".
This team sucks in the redzone. From 20 to 20 we're undefeated. But Dak had about the same amount of TD's that he normally does. The rushing TD's just weren't there. Dont know it was blocking or predictability.
 

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I suggest you go re-watch that game.

I'm going to continue this because I'm genuinely curious how far down this rabbit hole you can go.

"Touchdowns were like Mount Everest" .....well no.

but "We wore out our punter"

Well, sure we had 455 yards passing in a game where we scored 29 points but it was "only because a guy fell down".

Your turn. I'm sure we will get to Alien Mind Control and killing JFK in a few more posts.
 

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I suggest you go re-watch that game.

He threw two shoulda-been picks that ended up as Amari touchdowns, including the game winner.

The 80-yard TD was a horrible throw that a real NFL corner would have picked. Idiot corner ran himself out if bounds. The game winner was straight to the defensive back, who just bobbled it to Amari.

Don't confuse lucky with good.

Wow, your ability to break down those plays is shockingly poor.

“Straight to the defensive back”? Are you serious?

The defensive back would have had to run through Amari Cooper like he was Casper the ghost in order to make that true.

Sure there was some luck involved and it was an amazing play by cooper.

But straight to the defensive back? Get your eyes checked. The reason the corner couldn’t pick off the ball was because Amari was in the way. It’s an NFL receiver shielding a defender from the ball with his body. Not that uncommon of an occurrence.

It was a high risk throw and one he probably shouldn’t have thrown. But “should have been intercepted and straight to the defender”. Nonsense.


And as for the 80 yard touchdown.

1. At no point in time wasn’t it close to being intercepted.
2. I guess in your world the QB gets no credit for recognizing matchups on the field and determining correctly that Amari was being covered by a corner who had no chance of staying with him on that route. So from your myopic perspective you see it as a terrible pass that should have been picked if Patrick Peterson was covering Amari. But fail to see that it was a scrub covering him, which both Dak and Amari recognized and took advantage of.
3. It was such a horrible throw that Cooper barely had to break stride and still caught the ball with enough momentum that he easily outran the defenders after the catch. It was also such a horrible throw that the safety that was supposed to be helping over the top, never even came close to the ball and had zero chance at it.

But yeah an absolutely terrible pass that should have been picked off.
 
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56 minus 15 is still a lot. We had injuries and a bunch of new assistants. So that sack total should be an anomaly not the norm. We hope!
 

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Wow, your ability to break down those plays is shockingly poor.

“Straight to the defensive back”? Are you serious?

The defensive back would have had to run through Amari Cooper like he was Casper the ghost in order to make that true.

Sure there was some luck involved and it was an amazing play by cooper.

But straight to the defensive back? Get your eyes checked. The reason the corner couldn’t pick off the ball was because Amari was in the way. It’s an NFL receiver shielding a defender from the ball with his body. Not that uncommon of an occurrence.

It was a high risk throw and one he probably shouldn’t have thrown. But “should have been intercepted and straight to the defender”. Nonsense.


And as for the 80 yard touchdown.

1. At no point in time wasn’t it close to being intercepted.
2. I guess in your world the QB gets no credit for recognizing matchups on the field and determining correctly that Amari was being covered by a corner who had no chance of staying with him on that route. So from your myopic perspective you see it as a terrible pass that should have been picked if Patrick Peterson was covering Amari. But fail to see that it was a scrub covering him, which both Dak and Amari recognized and took advantage of.
3. It was such a horrible throw that Cooper barely had to break stride and still caught the ball with enough momentum that he easily outran the defenders after the catch. It was also such a horrible throw that the safety that was supposed to be helping over the top, never even came close to the ball and had zero chance at it.

But yeah an absolutely terrible pass that should have been picked off.
If Philly had their starting secondary, those are two picks. Sorry.

First was thrown inside hip. Easy interception for a legit corner. At least an easy breakup.

Second hit the DB in the hands and should have been a pick six.

Plus, Dallas had 9 measly points in the middle of the fourth quarter against a secondary picked up off the street.
 

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If Philly had their starting secondary, those are two picks. Sorry.

First was thrown inside hip. Easy interception for a legit corner. At least an easy breakup.

Second hit the DB in the hands and should have been a pick six.

Plus, Dallas had 9 measly points in the middle of the fourth quarter against a secondary picked up off the street.

This post is ridiculous.

The eagles didn’t have their starting secondary. The strategy and play calls, routes and decision making by the QB, OC and receivers are all different if the matchups are different. So your first point is 100% absolute nonsense r

The 80 yard pass was thrown inside and the corner got himself caught on the outside. Funny how the pass ended up inside when the corner was caught on the outside. Strange why that would be......

The OT pass. The DB got ONE hand on the ball. Not “hands” like you said.

And why was it only one hand? Because the ball was thrown to coopers back side. So again, the DB has to go THROUGH the receiver to try and pick it off. Which is why he didn’t pick it off because Cooper made contact with him and used his body to impede him. Which is what a receiver is SUPPOSED to do in that situation.

So yes a very high risk pass and there was luck involved. But the pass didn’t hit the DB in the “hands” and the reason it wasn’t picked off is because of where the ball was placed and the receiver doing his job. Had the ball been further inside, then it would have been a pick. But it was far enough outside to make it extremely hard for the DB to have a chance to catch it.

You’re either blind or just willfully making up things. Dak struggled the first 3 quarters. He absolutely did. But at the same time, twisting things and making up fallacies so that you can try to minimize how well he played in the 4th quarter and OT is nonsense.

You can just be honest and say. “He was playing poorly the first 3 quarters and then played really well in the 4th and OT”. It won’t hurt you to be honest like that.


As for your last point. That was the same eagles team that won their next 4 straight games, Including a playoff game. But yeah they were trash. :rolleyes:
 
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