Evaluating Top Announcers

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Let's talk announcers. With ESPN morning radio team Mike (Greenberg) and Mike (Golic) handling Arena Football League duties on television, and Billy Packer about to invade our homes for the next few weeks, there are a couple of questions I have for you.

1. Are there any announcers who will: a) make you watch a game you had no intention of watching; or b) make you stay on a game a little longer than you would have had someone else been behind the mic?

2. Are there any announcers who will make you: a) not watch a game; or b) watch the majority of the game on mute?

I thought it would be fun to go through different networks' top broadcast teams for various sports and do an evaluation based on these questions. When you're done reading my thoughts, be sure to send me yours.

COLLEGE BASKETBALL

• Jim Nantz and Billy Packer, CBS: Packer is a "Lightning Rod Announcer" -- someone most people have very strong feelings about one way or the other. (Most of the top analysts fit that criteria, so from here on out, I'm just going to use "LRA.") Oddly enough, I'm indifferent to Packer. He doesn't bother me (good sign), but I can't say he makes me enjoy a game any more than I would have. Nantz is a solid nuts-and-bolts play-by-play guy. Nothing more, nothing less. Final word: I can't say this broadcast team adds or subtracts from my enjoyment of a game.

• Verne Lundquist and Bill Raftery, CBS: I wish this was CBS' No. 1 team. Lundquist is the definition of a grizzled veteran. He brings passion to each broadcast, without making it about himself. He knows when to let a moment speak for itself, as evidenced by this famous clip. Raft sometimes makes things about himself, but he toes the line, doesn't cross it, and that's what I love about him. I think he's the best analyst in the sport. He brings a lot of fun to the booth, without going too far, and he can still analyze the X's and O's. Give me more man to mans, onions, kisses, lingeries and my favorite, send it ins. Final word: This team gets an A+. They keep me from flipping the channel.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL

• Brent Musburger, Bob Davie, Kirk Herbstreit, ABC: Last season was the first for this crew, and it quickly became one of my favorites. Musburger seems to be an LRA, but he does a very good job on play-by-play and seems genuinely excited to be doing games. (Plus, he's not afraid to show that he's up on today's technology and is down with "this Google thing.") Davie and Herbstreit had some chemistry, and provided a good mix of serious analysis and light-hearted banter. I don't expect any Michigan fans to agree with me on this, but that's OK. Final word: This crew should only get better with time.

• Lundquist and Gary Danielson, CBS: Last season was also the first for this team, but I preferred the previous team of Lundquist and Todd Blackledge (who left for ESPN/ABC). Danielson seems to go over the top with his preaching. He sang the praises of the SEC all season long (and rightfully so), but it was hard to take him seriously when he never felt that passionate before about the conference, since he worked for ABC, which didn't air SEC games. Final word: Overall, Lundquist adds to my enjoyment of any game, but CBS could use a bigger personality as its top college football analyst.

NFL

• Nantz and Phil Simms, CBS: Simms gets points for not talking down to his audience. He talks football like a fan would, and doesn't over-analyze a game. He often brings up his experiences as a player and makes it relevant to what's going on at that moment, which is the important thing. Final word: A solid, yet unspectacular team. CBS should've gone after Simms' former coach Bill Parcells and added him to this crew.

• Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, Fox: Aikman has grown into one of the best analysts in football. His biggest strength is that unlike most former players, the ex-Dallas QB isn't afraid to rip anyone. Buck seems more toned down on NFL telecasts than MLB games (maybe the lack of down time means there's less time for his stand-up routine?), and that's helped put him and Aikman in the same class as other top NFL broadcast teams. Final word: Another solid, yet unspectacular team.

• Al Michaels and John Madden, NBC: I can't say there's much different between the three network's top broadcast crews. Michaels and Madden, like Buck and Aikman, and Nantz and Simms, do a good job, keep the nonsense to a minimum and don't make you reach for a mute button. I think that's all you can really ask for from announcers. Final word: Madden is an icon, someone we grew up listening to. For that, his voice alone brings a special feel to a game. Makes it feel bigger, more important. That quality can't be ignored.

• Mike Tirico, Joe Theismann and Tony Kornheiser, ESPN: I wanted to give Kornheiser a chance last season, but I couldn't make it more than a few minutes without having to mute the games because of Theismann. Tirico is a fine play-by-play guy, but Theismann destroys the broadcast because he never stops talking. I could go on, but I'll just let this tremendous letter do it for me. And he never stops talking. Final word: You have to mute Monday night games.

MLB

• Buck and Tim McCarver, Fox: Both of these guys are LRAs. I don't mind McCarver. I grew up listening to him do Mets games in New York, so I have a soft spot for him. Does he belabor points? Sometimes. Does he say things every now and then that make no sense? Yes. But he still knows the game and can still teach you a thing or two. That's what he does best. Buck, however, is unlistenable on baseball. I'd say 90 percent of the time I'm watching a baseball game on Fox, I have the sound muted because of Buck. The lame jokes and corny sense of humor are impossible to stomach for three-plus hours. Final word: Gotta mute this team.

NBA

• Mike Breen and Mark Jackson, ABC: They're working together for the first time this season and I'm going to hold out judgment until after the playoffs. I'm able to catch both men in action on local broadcasts. Breen, who does Knicks games, is a Nantz-type. No frills, straight play-by-play. Jackson, who does color on Nets games, is a must-listen. He's smart, witty and will get on players. Final word: TBD

• Marv Albert and Steve Kerr, TNT: Marv is the premier broadcaster in sports. (he's come a long way from his days as a sports anchor on the local news), and he hasn't lost his touch one bit. And it seems that no matter who is paired with Albert (Mike Fratello, Doug Collins, Kerr), that person seems to shine, and that's been the case with Kerr. Final word: This duo keeps me tuned in longer than I would be if another crew were doing the game.

What do you think of these announcing teams? Who makes you hit the mute button? Who makes a game more enjoyable for you? Make sure you let me know.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si...007/03/evaluating-top-announcers.html?cnn=yes
 
Message to ESPN:

Mike Tirico, Joe Theismann and Tony Kornheiser, ESPN: I wanted to give Kornheiser a chance last season, but I couldn't make it more than a few minutes without having to mute the games because of Theismann. Tirico is a fine play-by-play guy, but Theismann destroys the broadcast because he never stops talking. I could go on, but I'll just let this tremendous letter do it for me. And he never stops talking. Final word: You have to mute Monday night games.
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Summeral and Madden were awesome. They were the last crew in any sport that I felt that could draw viewers. Remember in the late 80's[maybe because I was very young} and in the early to mid 90's for the most part, a viewer did not know what announcers were calling the games up until gametime. I remember when they did our games I was always like "cool."


The patent quote

Hello everybody this is Pat Summeral along with John Madden and John the so and so etc etc

I also believe this was the last crew before the era of the crews looking for the knife in the back. I dont ever remember them laying into a guy for the tinyest things. If a player gets a speeding ticket crews of today like Tirico etc would bring it up and chastized them. Madden and Summeral was for the players and called it that way. THey always promoted them in good ways as oppose to looking for the negative. Thats what I hate about the announcers of today, there snakes, there looking to make a name for themselves through ripping the players of the game.

Dick Enberg is good too.
 
There is no announcing team that would make me watch a game I would not normally watch.

There is no announcing team that would prevent me from watching a game I want to watch.

I find some announcing teams annoying but I can get through it if it is a game I want to watch.

The Theeezman team is terrible. However I get a laugh from time to time when Tony makes Joe look like a dolt...not that it is something hard to do.

I rarely ever watch the NBA but on a few occasions I may watch a few minutes of a game. Walton...man alive that guy, in the few occasions I have heard him call a game, seems like the biggest fool going.

Finally not really an announcer. But the old fart that asks the boxers questions after a match on HBO just annoys me to no end.
 
Musberger is the only one who will make me turn off the tv.

The Monday night crew is dreadful, also, but I won't turn off the NFL for anyone!
 
adamknite;1421761 said:
NFL Best Ever = Pat Summerall

In his prime, yes. He was the perfect foil for the goofy - but knowledgeable -- Madden. Their rapport will likely never be matched.

However, in Summerall's last 5 years or so he became increasingly difficult to understand and often seemed confused. I hate to say that because for me, he will always be the voice I associate with football. It was depressing to listen to him in those years.
 
I remember when it was Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier covering the games, that was a great combo
 
10 years from now, folks may say Troy is the best ever. I love that he actually expresses his opinions -- and not like Chris Collinsworthless who thinks just saying crazy or stupid things is analysis. Troy's opinions aren't there to stir the pot -- he's got a legitimate take on issues and backs them up.
 
abersonc;1422019 said:
10 years from now, folks may say Troy is the best ever. I love that he actually expresses his opinions -- and not like Chris Collinsworthless who thinks just saying crazy or stupid things is analysis. Troy's opinions aren't there to stir the pot -- he's got a legitimate take on issues and backs them up.

I agree and enjoy watching games that Aikman covers. I also like Moose and the job he does.
 
Doomsday101;1422018 said:
I remember when it was Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier covering the games, that was a great combo

That's nothing.

I remember when John Madden was skinny.
 
abersonc;1422031 said:
That's nothing.

I remember when John Madden was skinny.

That must have been before he was coaching. I remember him walking the sideline with the sideline pass hanging from his pants. He looked like a dufus but I will say he was a good coach and his players played hard for him
 
Mike Breen always seems to be a class guy, but he is actually a dirt bag. It's a shame, someone should tell his wife.... :rolleyes:
 
nyc;1422050 said:
Mike Breen always seems to be a class guy, but he is actually a dirt bag. It's a shame, someone should tell his wife.... :rolleyes:

Honestly, I have no idea who Mike Breen is......you must tell me what you know.... NOW! lolZ
 
abersonc;1422017 said:
In his prime, yes. He was the perfect foil for the goofy - but knowledgeable -- Madden. Their rapport will likely never be matched.

However, in Summerall's last 5 years or so he became increasingly difficult to understand and often seemed confused. I hate to say that because for me, he will always be the voice I associate with football. It was depressing to listen to him in those years.

Same here my friend.
 
adamknite;1422066 said:
Honestly, I have no idea who Mike Breen is......you must tell me what you know.... NOW! lolZ

Mike Breen took over for Marv Albert calling games for the Knicks. He also starting calling games for ESPN. He called the NBA finals last year with the Mavs and Heat. I guess it doesn't really matter. Most people seem to be dirt bags behind closed doors anyhow. Just one dirt bag (Breen) taking over for another. (Albert)
 
Monday night is radio sound time. Choosing between listening to Troy or Brad Sham is a problem.
 
nyc;1422100 said:
Mike Breen took over for Marv Albert calling games for the Knicks. He also starting calling games for ESPN. He called the NBA finals last year with the Mavs and Heat. I guess it doesn't really matter. Most people seem to be dirt bags behind closed doors anyhow. Just one dirt bag (Breen) taking over for another. (Albert)

I don't know why i have no idea who he is then, I watched every game of the finals last year. So did you have some kind of eye witness event with him, or is there a story out that I havent' heard?
 
dogberry;1422117 said:
Monday night is radio sound time. Choosing between listening to Troy or Brad Sham is a problem.

Sham has been a staple with the Cowboys for so many years. Every single one of those years listening to him; I haven't liked him. He isn't exciting and just seems bland.

My favorite local announcer of all time was Mark Holtz. Texas Rangers 1981-1994 and 1995-1997.

The following quote is still displayed on the score board at every Texas Rangers home win.
Mark Holtz said:
Hello Win Column!
 

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