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[Bob Sacamano]

2006

Dallas RBs running to the left-side: 4.9 ypc

Washington RBs running to the left-side: 4.75

if Samuels is the best run-blocking LT in the league, how come our backs averaged more rushing to the left-side than yours did?

 

[zrinkill]

One thing I always see Cowboy fans cry about:

DeAngelo Hall: 3 Pro Bowls

Terrence Newman: 0 Pro Bowls despite being in the league for a longer period of time.

Damn look at ZERO Pro Bowls. Newman must suck

Corners are put in the Probowl for interceptions .... with you're football knowledge I am not surprised you do not know that.

 

[Aikbach]

One thing I always see Cowboy fans cry about:

DeAngelo Hall: 3 Pro Bowls

Terrence Newman: 0 Pro Bowls despite being in the league for a longer period of time.

Damn look at ZERO Pro Bowls. Newman must suck

No, but Shawn Springs and Fred Smoot sure do in my opinion.

 

[WR17]

2006

Dallas RBs running to the left-side: 4.9 ypc

Washington RBs running to the left-side: 4.75

if Samuels is the best run-blocking LT in the league, how come our backs averaged more rushing to the left-side than yours did?

Very general stat which does no help in answering anything. Put it more in depth. Find me how many times each team ran left and on what situations.

 

[zrinkill]

2006

Dallas RBs running to the left-side: 4.9 ypc

Washington RBs running to the left-side: 4.75

if Samuels is the best run-blocking LT in the league, how come our backs averaged more rushing to the left-side than yours did?

Ouch ..... that had to hurt.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Very general stat which does no help in answering anything. Put it more in depth. Find me how many times each team ran left and on what situations.

I'm working w/ I have, and from the outside, it's not looking too good for your argument

or you could just provide me w/ a link where everyone is raving about Chris Samuels as THE best run-blocking tackle in the game, give me something in rebuttal other than your Washington suckarseskin opinion

 

[zrinkill]

I'm working w/ I have, and from the outside, it's not looking too good for your argument

or you could just provide me w/ a link where everyone is raving about Chris Samuels as THE best run-blocking tackle in the game, give me something in rebuttal other than your Washington suckarseskin opinion

I am sure it will be a link to Xtremeskins ..... or some fantasy football site (where most of these guys get their info)

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I am sure it will be a link to Xtremeskins ..... or some fantasy football site (where most of these guys get their info)

it's probably found nowhere, as using terms such as, "it is widely considered" before making a statement, is just a fancy way of saying that you pulled something out of your arse

 

[WR17]

Corners are put in the Probowl for interceptions .... with you're football knowledge I am not surprised you do not know that.

Excuses excuses. We all know how much the common NFL fan who votes for the Pro Bowl tries to dig deep into NFL stat sites to find stats for offensive lineman.

Heres some stats for you:

Flozell last season had 6 penalties (five false starts which is downright putrid) and gave up 7.5 sacks (which is again downright putrid)

Samuels had 4 penalties and gave up only 4 sacks.

Huge difference. Flozell is no where in Samuels league. Every GM in the league would take Chris Samuels over Flozell adams.

 

[zrinkill]

Sorry skin fan ...... I do not trust the stats any of you trolls try to feed us.

Flozell when Healthy is at least as good as Samuels ..... and alot cheaper.

Samuels is an underachieving 3rd overall pick.

 

[WR17]

I'm working w/ I have, and from the outside, it's not looking too good for your argument

or you could just provide me w/ a link where everyone is raving about Chris Samuels as THE best run-blocking tackle in the game, give me something in rebuttal other than your Washington suckarseskin opinion

KC Joyner. I'm not wasting my time finding his articles again. If you want you can go ahead and look it up. He also had Samuels and Dockery rated as the best left side in football in regards of run blocking (even when Steve Hutchinson and Walter Jones played together).

 

[WR17]

Sorry skin fan ...... I do not trust the stats any of you trolls try to feed us.

http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=4298&team=6

http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=5032&team=28


Reality is tough to absorb

 

[DallasEast]

Flozell last season had 6 penalties (five false starts which is downright putrid) and gave up 7.5 sacks (which is again downright putrid)

Samuels had 4 penalties and gave up only 4 sacks.

Huge difference.

:bang2: 'Huge difference???" Damn, that is so stupid!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Flozell has averaged 5.2 sacks given up for his career (not counting '05 since he only played about half a season)

Samuels, 4.9

huge difference, yeah right

and BUWAHAHAHAHA look it up? why waste my time, it's probably not even there

 

[zrinkill]

http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=4298&team=6

http://shsdemo.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=5032&team=28


Reality is tough to absorb

So in their career

Adams gets .43 penalties per game and .32 sacks per game

Samuels gets .40 penalties per game and .31 sacks per game

:laugh2: yea thats worlds difference


What now Skin fan ..... how much more can you embarrass yourself?

 

[WR17]

Flozell has averaged 5.2 sacks given up for his career (not counting '05 since he only played about half a season)

Samuels, 4.9

huge difference, yeah right

and BUWAHAHAHAHA look it up? why waste my time, it's probably not even there

Averages are fun, but no a true indicator of play. At this point in there career, Samuels is A FAR better player than Flozell Adams. The stats clearly reflect it for the past several years. Flozell Adams has been an underachiever ever since 2002. A solid start to his career which has clearly gone down the drain since then. Samuels has been a very steady player for the past seasons.

But agian, use your own "averages" and cherry pick the stats that make Flozell look decent. Hes been mediocre every since 2002.

And to whoever called him an underachiever, using your own logic, 7 years in the league and Samuels has made 4 Pro Bowls. What an underachiever

 

[Bob Sacamano]

2006 and 2004 seasons, since FLozell missed most of '05

Julius Jones, 5 ypc running left

Clinton Portis, 4.1 ypc running left

and that's w/ the LG staying the same for Washington, yet Flo having 2 different players lining up next to him at LG both years

I think it's safe to say that no matter the LG, backs average more yards per carry running behind Flo

 

[zrinkill]

So in their career

Adams gets .43 penalties per game and .32 sacks per game

Samuels gets .40 penalties per game and .31 sacks per game

:laugh2: yea thats worlds difference

You Lose

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Averages are fun, but no a true indicator of play.

then what are they an indicator of?

At this point in there career, Samuels is A FAR better player than Flozell Adams. The stats clearly reflect it for the past several years.

no they don't

Flozell Adams has been an underachiever ever since 2002. A solid start to his career which has clearly gone down the drain since then. Samuels has been a very steady player for the past seasons.

so has Flo

But agian, use your own "averages" and cherry pick the stats that make Flozell look decent. Hes been mediocre every since 2002.

Samuels has barely been better, so what does that make him?

 

[WR17]

2006 and 2004 seasons, since FLozell missed most of '05

Julius Jones, 5 ypc running left

Clinton Portis, 4.1 ypc running left

and that's w/ the LG staying the same for Washington, yet Flo having 2 different players lining up next to him at LG both years

Clinton Portis also had nearly double the amount of carries than Julius Jones which is why this stat is skewed.