Even 'Skins are hopeful in pre-season...

[zrinkill]

You are the one warping stats. WR17 has made it very clear how they have both played since 2002.

Yea .... almost identical as Adams ....

 

[zrinkill]

zrin, let's give them LT, although Flo is a better run-blocker, and not that much worse in pass-protection, God knows they don't have much else to crow about

We have been saying the whole time how they are almost identicle ..... but the silly skin fans want to keep saying how Samuels is head and shoulders better.

Which of course anyone can see is bullcrap.

 

[zrinkill]

Completely irrevlevant, but I expect nothing less from you.

As I do from a troll such as yourself.

 

[skinsfunguy]

We have been saying the whole time how they are almost identicle ..... but the silly skin fans want to keep saying how Samuels is head and shoulders better.

Which of course anyone can see is bullcrap.

By KC Joyner, ESPN.com

The Denver Broncos' offensive run-blocking group (OL/TE/FB) had the highest overall metrics in 2005, but for my money, the Commanders had the best set of blockers last year. Chris Samuels and Derrick Dockery had the best set of metrics of any guard/tackle combination (and that does include the Walter Jones/Steve Hutchinson tandem). Samuels topped the 90 percent mark in run-blocking success percentage, and Dockery missed the 90 percent mark by a mere 0.5 percent.
The right side of the Skins' line had very good metrics as well. Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas both ranked in the top 20 at their positions in run-blocking success percentage.
Combine this great run blocking with a platoon of Clinton Portis, T.J. Duckett and Ladell Betts, and the Commanders could vie for the No. 1 rushing offense in 2006.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Completely irrevlevant, but I expect nothing less from you.

how about earning some stripes before popping off, kid?

 

[skinsfunguy]

As I do from a troll such as yourself.

Exactly how am i a troll?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

By KC Joyner, ESPN.com

The Denver Broncos' offensive run-blocking group (OL/TE/FB) had the highest overall metrics in 2005, but for my money, the Commanders had the best set of blockers last year. Chris Samuels and Derrick Dockery had the best set of metrics of any guard/tackle combination (and that does include the Walter Jones/Steve Hutchinson tandem). Samuels topped the 90 percent mark in run-blocking success percentage, and Dockery missed the 90 percent mark by a mere 0.5 percent.
The right side of the Skins' line had very good metrics as well. Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas both ranked in the top 20 at their positions in run-blocking success percentage.
Combine this great run blocking with a platoon of Clinton Portis, T.J. Duckett and Ladell Betts, and the Commanders could vie for the No. 1 rushing offense in 2006.

touche

 

[zrinkill]

By KC Joyner, ESPN.com

The Denver Broncos' offensive run-blocking group (OL/TE/FB) had the highest overall metrics in 2005, but for my money, the Commanders had the best set of blockers last year. Chris Samuels and Derrick Dockery had the best set of metrics of any guard/tackle combination (and that does include the Walter Jones/Steve Hutchinson tandem). Samuels topped the 90 percent mark in run-blocking success percentage, and Dockery missed the 90 percent mark by a mere 0.5 percent.
The right side of the Skins' line had very good metrics as well. Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas both ranked in the top 20 at their positions in run-blocking success percentage.
Combine this great run blocking with a platoon of Clinton Portis, T.J. Duckett and Ladell Betts, and the Commanders could vie for the No. 1 rushing offense in 2006.

Where in that article does it say how much better Samuels is than Adams?

Or is this more irrelevant crap to keep the focus off of your silly claims?

 

[zrinkill]

Exactly how am i a troll?

You are the one who started getting personal.

 

[TunaFan33]

Where in that article does it say how much better Samuels is than Adams?

Or is this more irrelevant crap to keep the focus off of your silly claims?

Why are we having this silly discussion?

Neither are exactly perfect, but nonetheless a BIG key to our O's, especially our pass protection O's.

It's mystifying how alot of people undervalue that LT position.

 

[zrinkill]

Why are we having this silly discussion?

How quickly people forget that Dallas stumbled two years ago when Flozell Adams went down and Flozell isn't even that good.

He is nowhere near the caliber of Chris Samuels.

Skin fans making stupid remarks

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Skin fans making stupid remarks

why that upsets us, I'll never know, we should be used to it lol

 

[skinsfunguy]

Where in that article does it say how much better Samuels is than Adams?

Or is this more irrelevant crap to keep the focus off of your silly claims?

KC Joyner

Overrated pass-blockers

Walter Jones
Jones is widely regarded as the greatest pass-blocking left tackle in the league, but he gave up eight sacks last year -- the highest sack total allowed by any of the nine tackles either voted into the Pro Bowl or chosen as injury replacements. Jones also allowed one offensive holding penalty as well. He is still one of the better offensive linemen in the NFL, but his 2006 performance was well below his typical standard.

Flozell Adams
Adams was chosen as an injury replacement for the Pro Bowl, but his metrics were also mediocre. Adams allowed seven sacks, including four individual effort sacks. Adams also was called for one offensive holding penalty, and a crackback block penalty as well.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't know how Flo could be overrated as a pass-blocker, everyone and their mother knows that he struggles w/ speed

 

[zrinkill]

But he is a better Run Blocker

 

[tomson75]

Wierd. Skins fans and Joyner's "metrics"...never seen that combination before.

 

[zrinkill]

why that upsets us, I'll never know, we should be used to it lol

Does not upset me ..... I love putting them in their place.

 

[skinsfunguy]

But he is a better Run Blocker

You really think Adams is a better run blocker then Samuels?

 

[zrinkill]

Weird. Skins fans and Joyner's "metrics"...never seen that combination before.

Art told them they have the best line in the league ...... so they believe it.

 

[skinsfunguy]

Wierd. Skins fans and Joyner's "metrics"...never seen that combination before.

Funny, I seem to see alot of Joyners metics used around here to prove how good Terrance Newman is.