Every day seems like the Jones' open their mouths?

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erod;4661741 said:
I had no idea when I was a kid that "The Beverly Hillbillies" was actually a documentary.

The Jones family is a prime example of what happens when hillbillies win the lottery.
erod, when technology advances enough to create a slap monitor I'm gonna look you up..:D
 

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cowboys2233;4661733 said:
That's hilarious. Yes, JG specifically asked Jerry to talk a lot to the media and Jerry humbly obliged, like a good assistant.

Jerry is becoming old and senile and he drinks a lot. He is incredibly arrogant and narcissistic. And he has deluded himself into believing that he is directly responsible for any success this team has, despite the fact that it has had virtually none for nearly two decades. He did it with Parcells -- once the team started looking like it was improving, he jumped in and said "Look at me! Look at what I've done!" I think it really rubbed Parcells the wrong way and he bailed.

You missed it, but the OP is about how ownership interactions with the press have changed relative to prior seasons. The issue isn't that Jerry Jones continues to like attention.

And it's silly to think a billion dollar organization doesn't give careful thought to how PR is handled vis-a-vis the local media.

You really think a head coach who cares enough about small details to switch clocks in the building from analog to digital and who is as careful as any coach in our history in managing his media message isn't going to think to talk to his own bosses re a strategy for maintaining the public message he wants to work with? Really?
 

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The Emperor;4661689 said:
First off, why the heck is this passe expostulation cluttering up the News Zone?

Now, on to business:

Here's Bill Polian talking about Peyton Manning's injury:

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2011/11/...-colts-in-2012

Here's Scott Pioli going before NFL Networthless and talking about the Chiefs injuries:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...0-6f6392af849e

Here's the Giants' GM Jerry Reese talking about injuries and also giving a scenario as to whom will replace the injured player in question. Can you imagine if Jerry Jones did that? It would be him "meddling" as a coach. Yet when Jerry Reese does it, no one says a word:

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/gia...me/jerry-reese

Here's Bruce Allen talking about the Commanders' injuries last season:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...yulN_blog.html

Here's Trent Baalke giving an update on Michael Crabtree:

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/...ry-3745080.php

Here's Marty Hurney, another one in the league GM camp who knows more about journalism than football, talking injuries:

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/...e-surgery.html

Here's Crackers GM Ted Thompson talks about injuries:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...-Bishop-injury

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...eason-injuries

Here's another example from one of the East Coast mediots' favorite franchises of a frickin' owner not only "meddling" but also giving preventative injury advice. Here's the Steelers' Art Rooney II:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...o-change-style

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...unsteelerslike


Do yourself a favor and follow other teams. Don't let the mediots follow them for you.
This is an Awesome post Emp,but will be ignored by those who think they know better.
 

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Doomsday101;4661747 said:
Yeah they won the lottery? :lmao2:

Jerry is not a dumb man he did not get to where he is out of luck and he certainly did not inherit his wealth. Hillbilly? yeah right.

Wildcatting oil man doesn't really add up to seasoned, accomplished CEO. And even those that do come into sudden money - a la Mark Cuban or Dan Snyder - generally evolve over time.

Jerry acts and sounds exactly like Jed Clampett's cartoonish caricture much of the time.

I'm certain he's the only owner in NFL history to utter the words "**********", "meow, meow", and "socks and jocks" in actual press conferences.

Thing is, I actually like Jerry for the most part. It's the GM thing that just drives me crazy. He has to be completely delusional to think he is remotely qualified for that position or that he's even shown a glimmer of competency as a talent evaluator.
 

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erod;4661823 said:
Wildcatting oil man doesn't really add up to seasoned, accomplished CEO. And even those that do come into sudden money - a la Mark Cuban or Dan Snyder - generally evolve over time.

Jerry acts and sounds exactly like Jed Clampett's cartoonish caricture much of the time.

I'm certain he's the only owner in NFL history to utter the words "**********", "meow, meow", and "socks and jocks" in actual press conferences.

Thing is, I actually like Jerry for the most part. It's the GM thing that just drives me crazy. He has to be completely delusional to think he is remotely qualified for that position or that he's even shown a glimmer of competency as a talent evaluator.
It shows:D
 

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Doomsday101;4661649 said:
Funny part is no one ever told Tex to shut up and yet Tex was highly visible and very talkative. Heck he had his own show right after the Tom Landry show. When Tom did not like the label America's Team it was Tex who went out and promoted that label.

That is an excellent point! Tex was always open to talking to the media.
 

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Why does everyone call JJ a wild catter oil man. Yes he has that. And has that mentality. But that can be said about many successful business men.
But I remember shortly after he bought the team. Everyone assumed that's all he did.
IIRC he said he was more successful from chicken farms and insurance.
 

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erod;4661823 said:
Wildcatting oil man doesn't really add up to seasoned, accomplished CEO. And even those that do come into sudden money - a la Mark Cuban or Dan Snyder - generally evolve over time.

Jerry acts and sounds exactly like Jed Clampett's cartoonish caricture much of the time.

I'm certain he's the only owner in NFL history to utter the words "**********", "meow, meow", and "socks and jocks" in actual press conferences.

Thing is, I actually like Jerry for the most part. It's the GM thing that just drives me crazy. He has to be completely delusional to think he is remotely qualified for that position or that he's even shown a glimmer of competency as a talent evaluator.

That is clearly your opinion, Jerry is who he is but he did not get to where he got by being stupid. I think people who have under estimated Jerry in his way to the top are the real rubes.

I don’t think sees himself as an evaluator I think much of the things he talks about come from those who work for him and yes over the years I’m sure he has opinions of players just as anyone else would
 

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Idgit;4661759 said:
You really think a head coach who cares enough about small details to switch clocks in the building from analog to digital and who is as careful as any coach in our history in managing his media message isn't going to think to talk to his own bosses re a strategy for maintaining the public message he wants to work with? Really?

You hit the nail on the head, Jerry is his BOSS. Did you ever stop to think that Garrett has absolutely no way to stop Jerry from talking? Why on earth would you think that? I didn't miss anything, I recognize that Jerry is running his mouth much more than in the past. This is NOT a positive sign. It is simply more of a bad thing.

I didn't realize Garrett spent valuable time and energy switching analog clocks to digital clocks. What kind of buffoonery is that? I'll tell you -- it sounds exactly like Campo's ridiculous time clock punching -- an utterly stupid symbol that he used to tell the team that it was "time to go to work." How did that work out?
 

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cowboy_ron;4661830 said:

You mean it's not obvious? LOL

Charming, engaging, optimistic, hard-working, energetic, involved, emotionally invested......he has some tremendous traits.

Stubborn, delusional, self-absorbed, attention-needy, impulsive, egomaniacal, football incompetent, addiction-driven....and he has some serious character flaws.

I like that he's imperfect. But I'd like it better if he was aware of it.
 

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sago1;4661611 said:
Fully realize owners can do/say what they want but sure am fed up to constantly read Jerry or Stephen comments/fireballs re Claiborn, Dez, etc. Do they think such comments will inspire the players? or do they just like to read their names in the news? Had higher hopes for Stephen if/when he ever takes over and really run this team. Frankly, he now sounds like carbon copy of Jerry--very disapppointing.

Packers (2), Broncos (2), Rams (1), Pats (3), Steelers (2), Giants (2), Bucs (1), Colts (1), Ravens (1) have won SB since our last win in 95. Yet none of their owners/GMs have the egos/big mouths like the Jones family. Guess the Jones family don't believe/follow the old rule-- put up or shut up.

Just want to see the Cowboys win at least 1 SB with Romo, Witten, Ware, Ratliff, etc. But where added defensive players indicate our defensive performance will make big improvement, our interior OL (with so many injuries) has the makings of a disaster.

Then you really must hate Jim Irsay. :rolleyes:
 

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erod;4661860 said:
You mean it's not obvious? LOL

Charming, engaging, optimistic, hard-working, energetic, involved, emotionally invested......he has some tremendous traits.

Stubborn, delusional, self-absorbed, attention-needy, impulsive, egomaniacal, football incompetent, addiction-driven....and he has some serious character flaws.

I like that he's imperfect. But I'd like it better if he was aware of it.
Oh he is..he just knows the right kind of bait to throw out to catch the biggest fish..and it works great:D
 

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Fletch;4661865 said:
Then you really must hate Jim Irsay. :rolleyes:

What the heck has Jim Irsay done? You saw what the team really was when Peyton didn't play. How can you have one of the all time great QBs for so many years, such stability at the position, and let the rest of your team fall into such a state of disrepair? It's inexcusable. So forgive me for not understanding your point.
 

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Idgit;4661642 said:
It's probably deliberate, and might even be at JGs request. I've noticed it, too, and don't think such a public posture suddenly is a coincidence.

Bingo.

Let the media gobble up all the non-speak from Jerry/Stephen and the players can focus on playing.
 

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sago1;4661611 said:
Guess the Jones family don't believe/follow the old rule-- put up or shut up.




The more you celebrate winning the more it takes away from the accomplishment.


Winners should say less than losers, for themselves sake.

That's a personal journey everyman can strive to make and no other should take away from him.
 

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casmith07;4661886 said:
Bingo.

Let the media gobble up all the non-speak from Jerry/Stephen and the players can focus on playing.

So if Jerry didn't say incendiary things, if he didn't open his trap constantly, the players couldn't focus on playing? What kind of backwards logic is that?
 
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