Every pro mock says Amukamara? Like we'd be lucky?

[AKATheRake]

Seriously? Nobody picks him before us and if they do thank the football Gods.

How the hell is nobody talking about Marcell Dareus?

Always double teamed in a 3-4 and always beats the double teams.

If not Peterson or Fairley, why not Dareus? On film I would take him before Fairley.

We're not getting Peterson and even if we do our d-line is the real problem on defense.

We do not scare o-lines. That's why 3rd down the opposition can fit a 20 yarder in at key moments.

O-line has better value in the 2nd.

 

[TheCount]

I think the assumption is Dareus goes before our pick.

 

[JBS]

I think the assumption is Dareus goes before our pick.

That's not entirely true

Many people, like myself, do not view Dareus as the best 3-4 DE in this class..Cam Jordan is a much much better pass rusher and IMO a better 3-4 DE..Dareus is a better player than Jordan as a 4-3 DT..but that's not us

 

[AKATheRake]

That's not entirely true

Many people, like myself, do not view Dareus as the best 3-4 DE in this class..Cam Jordan is a much much better pass rusher and IMO a better 3-4 DE..Dareus is a better player than Jordan as a 4-3 DT..but that's not us

My bro, Cam looks Igor Olshansky against double teams.

Dareus played in a 3-4 as the LDE and was always doubled and always beat them.

9 sacks from that position in a much more competitive conference.

Pro ready as a junior and always show up in the big games.

Can play every position great on all d-line spots.

What's that about Cam?

I got so much respect for you bro because I love this football like you do.

But, what's that about Cam?

 

[JBS]

My bro, Cam looks Igor Olshansky against double teams.
Dareus played in a 3-4 as the LDE and was always doubled and always beat them.
9 sacks from that position in a much more competitive conference.
Pro ready as a junior and always show up in the big games.

Can play every position great on all d-line spots.

What's that about Cam?

I got so much respect for you bro because I love this football like you do.

But, what's that about Cam?

Lmao..debating pass rush skills between Jordan and Dareus really isn't even debatable..

Cam Jordan has a plethora of moves and is infinitely quicker off the line than Dareus..

 

[AKATheRake]

I think the assumption is Dareus goes before our pick.

Watch, come push to shove the guy goes top 5.

I don't know how these guys here don't see what this monster is about?

He has much better footage than even Fairley.

2 years straight.

Always the dominating force in the big games.

I just don't understand all the hush about him?

I know we're a month away but it's that hush?

When it's like that with the teams it's that scary.....

Pro ready for any spot on a 3-4 front and just ridiculous at it.

Some how no love pre-draft.

 

[JBS]

No love because he isn't going to be a dominating force..he is going to be another Marcus spears..very solid..good starter for a very long time..not an all pro type player..not a dominating player

 

[AKATheRake]

Lmao..debating pass rush skills between Jordan and Dareus really isn't even debatable..

Cam Jordan has a plethora of moves and is infinitely quicker off the line than Dareus..

Okay, okay. We don't debate than.

We watch.

Here's Marcell Dareus footage which are all quick 30 seconds. Watch the pass rush, the pocket just collapsing. Big game too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5T8jSWeLgI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mraJ61VBmxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKtXY2N-qPk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDQzNH2_r8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE4zv0JOqlc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8OQTweltrA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pntvmfPV-Ms&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olGY8g6b2yE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc_tFjmih7k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7WbXunJcc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=insLuoYsDXw&feature=related


They're all short but are so indicative. BCS championship and Capital One Bowl. 2 big freakin games.

Dareus is a junior and that dominant against double teams in a 3 man front. Not 4.

Here's Cam's best footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOx7bqKP4m0


I'll take # 57 over #97 any day. Any position across a 3-4 d-line.

Dareus played for Nick Saban's 3-4 and apparently Cam Jordan played for a defense at Cal that is more us?

Come on bro! don't do me like that.

That's funny!

All the love, but that's funny!

 

[AKATheRake]

No love because he isn't going to be a dominating force..he is going to be another Marcus spears..very solid..good starter for a very long time..not an all pro type player..not a dominating player

Nah man.

That is Cam Jordan.

Not Marcell Dareus.

Every play he's doubled and shoves that pocket around.

Jordan is nowhere the player Dareus is.

Not even close.

 

[TheFinisher]

Lmao..debating pass rush skills between Jordan and Dareus really isn't even debatable..

Cam Jordan has a plethora of moves and is infinitely quicker off the line than Dareus..

Cam Jordan has never shown the ability to be an effective interior rusher, Dareus has.

Jordan is a bad fit in a 3-4, he's strictly a LE in a 40 front.

 

[TheFinisher]

Watch, come push to shove the guy goes top 5.

I don't know how these guys here don't see what this monster is about?

He has much better footage than even Fairley.

2 years straight.

Always the dominating force in the big games.

I just don't understand all the hush about him?

I know we're a month away but it's that hush?

When it's like that with the teams it's that scary.....

Pro ready for any spot on a 3-4 front and just ridiculous at it.

Some how no love pre-draft.

Dareus is viewed as a consensus top 5 player in the class, not sure how much more love he can get?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Dareus is viewed as a consensus top 5 player in the class, not sure how much more love he can get?

This is what happens when man love turns into obsession.

 

[AKATheRake]

Dareus is viewed as a consensus top 5 player in the class, not sure how much more love he can get?

Not too many mocks have him in the top 10 let alone 5.

Barely any of the zoners have him on their mock drafts. Haven't even seen 1.

I see him as a top 5 talent but I haven't seen many posters or pro mock drafts giving him his due.

This guy is perfect for what we need on our d-line.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Not too many mocks have him in the top 10 let alone 5.

Barely any of the zoners have him on their mock drafts. Haven't even seen 1.

I see him as a top 5 talent but I haven't seen many posters or pro mock drafts giving him his due.

This guy is perfect for what we need on our d-line.

Well then you have not looked hard enough. Seriously.

I mean even in this thread alone it seems you are the only one arguing the point while others are telling you he is viewed as going before our pick therefore he must be good yet you are still arguing he does not get enough love.

It truly is bizarre.

That's it. I think we need a drug test.

 

[JBS]

Cam Jordan has never shown the ability to be an effective interior rusher, Dareus has.

Jordan is a bad fit in a 3-4, he's strictly a LE in a 40 front.

I haven't found one draft site that says Jordan is a better fit in a 40 front..

 

[supercowboy8]

My bro, Cam looks Igor Olshansky against double teams.

Dareus played in a 3-4 as the LDE and was always doubled and always beat them.

9 sacks from that position in a much more competitive conference.

Pro ready as a junior and always show up in the big games.

Can play every position great on all d-line spots.

What's that about Cam?

I got so much respect for you bro because I love this football like you do.

But, what's that about Cam?

I live in SEC territory and watched every alabama game the last 3 years. Dareus is just another Spears.
When Spears was at LSU he was a force and always in the back field.
3-4 DE is not worth a top 10 pick. You can get a good 3-4 DE later in round 1 -round 3. Look at all the 3-4 DE in the NFL, how many are dominate.

 

[TheFinisher]

I haven't found one draft site that says Jordan is a better fit in a 40 front..

...Then you're not doing a lot of looking around.

 

[AKATheRake]

Well then you have not looked hard enough. Seriously.

I mean even in this thread alone it seems you are the only one arguing the point while others are telling you he is viewed as going before our pick therefore he must be good yet you are still arguing he does not get enough love.

It truly is bizarre.

That's it. I think we need a drug test.

I have 2 posts in this thread saying I see him as a top 5 talent. There is 1 poster other than myself in this thread saying he is seen as a top 5 prospect.

Everyone else is saying he's another Marcus Spears.

So whats this about a drug test? LMAO!

Where do you see him come up in most peoples mocks as a top 5 pick or who they want as there pick at # 9 in their own mocks?

Thus the question of why nobody is interested.

So the consensus answer on this thread is 1 guy other than myself saying he's worth of a top 5 pick.

The rest saying he's a Marcus Spears clone or that 3-4 DE's aren't worth taking.

Ohh, also that Cam Jordan or JJ. Watt or the better guys to take.

 

[AKATheRake]

I live in SEC territory and watched every alabama game the last 3 years. Dareus is just another Spears.
When Spears was at LSU he was a force and always in the back field.
3-4 DE is not worth a top 10 pick. You can get a good 3-4 DE later in round 1 -round 3. Look at all the 3-4 DE in the NFL, how many are dominate.

Not many other than Richard Seymour who is not playing DT in a 4-3 scheme.

He's considered the highest paid defensive player for the next 2 seasons and someone I wanted before he was re-signed.

He mostly made his living as a 3-4 DE.

He went 4th overall when he was selected.

When you find a good one you go and get him if he's there. Especially when only 1 of your 4 DE's is signed for this season and none are signed after this season.

Especially when your d-line was not getting into the oppositions backfield and all but 1 of your lb's who could have 2-3 pro bowlers in that core any given year were mostly looking average pressure wise.

Now Spencer the season before last looked like a probowler and James has done his bit in that regard. We were a solid argument for best LB unit versus the Steelers unit before this season started.

Making sure that's outlined before I hear how Spencer and our other lb's are just average because of this 1 season.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

All mocks that show him before our Pick...yet he gets no love and you don't see mocks showing him before our pick...

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2011.php - Listed at 8

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock - Listed at 3

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/02/22/2011-nfl-mock-draft-2-1-grading-the-picks/?sem=1&ncid=AOLSPR00170000000009&s_kwcid=TC|10781|2011%20NFL%20mock%20draft||S|b|7122196520 - Listed at 5

http://newnfldraft.com/ - Listed at 1

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php - Listed at 3

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/nflmockdraft.html - Listed at 6



Actually of the draft sites I quickly pulled up on a simple google search I went through 5 before I found one that did not show him going before our pick.

Take two and call me in the morning.