Everyone in Dallas Area, stay inside and stay safe

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I would guess that race relations are generally better and have generally been steadily improving. What I think has changed, as others have mentioned, is the proliferation of video. I also think police organizations in America have militarized more, and that we're going through a sea change in terms of how criminals can be identified, traced, and caught.

It feels like a transitionary phase where best practice hasn't caught up with capabilities. Sprinkle in the sorts of relatively rare abuses of power we've always had and put them on video, and it makes for an incendiary situation.

now this is some common sense. you cant just see the obvious and then pretend to understand the complex.
 

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My apologies for deleting and walking away... however, to be clear the thread was drifting too far from the original premise of the thread.

I think we need to bring it back to the event of the night and the individual or individuals involved.

I'm okay with your moderation. I just found it interesting that I read posts that touched on race relations despite BP's admonition not to talk about that.
When I noticed the discussion was being allowed, I chimed in. Of course, someone misinterpreted my post and essentially called me a racist :laugh: so I can see why you cut it off.
But I don't think the topic should have been allowed at all.
Then again, I'm not a moderator ... though I did stay at a Holiday Inn. :D
 

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52 years after the civil rights act and here we are.
Agreed.

I don't think things are worse today than they were from about the Emmitt Till murder until after Vietnam.

All those things that are happening today, happened then... Just 10 fold– Just the media coverage was minute compared with today.

On top of that the murder rate was much higher then than it is now.

Overall I feel people are more tolerant, BUT you're always going to have folks "off the bell curve" that make it appear as though the problem is much larger due to media coverage and aggressive zealots who latch onto such things (both for & against) that continue the agitation.

One caveat that I think trumps (no pun intended). MANY more People today feel that their opinion and their feelings are infallible and the internet allows tribal and blind support to some stupid ideas. its all feelings all the time and very little root cause discussion.

We are a republic and not a democracy for a reason.
 

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I would guess that race relations are generally better and have generally been steadily improving. What I think has changed, as others have mentioned, is the proliferation of video. I also think police organizations in America have militarized more, and that we're going through a sea change in terms of how criminals can be identified, traced, and caught.

It feels like a transitionary phase where best practice hasn't caught up with capabilities. Sprinkle in the sorts of relatively rare abuses of power we've always had and put them on video, and it makes for an incendiary situation.

Technology in general has a bad side. Now news is instantaneous, someone sees something has an emotional reactions, forms a knee-jerk opinion, posts something and then can never alter the initial stance. The crass dehumanizing comments in twitter and youtube is starting to infect interpersonal relationships.

And this is an macro-observation
 

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My apologies for deleting and walking away... however, to be clear the thread was drifting too far from the original premise of the thread.

I think we need to bring it back to the event of the night and the individual or individuals involved.

I apologize for my part in any derailment of this thread.
 

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As someone who has lived in Dallas for over 50 years, I think it all boils down to this.

We have got to come together.

Aren't we supposed to be The UNITED States of America?

We sure aren't acting like it.
 
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