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fivetwos

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DEAD on
Jethro believes the draft is 75% of talent acquisition and you will always get UDFAs that are good depth and occasional good starters
after that is trades and signing your own FA
You look at every SB winning team for the last twenty years and they have at least TWO prominent FA players. AT LEAST.
Also funny how each of the last few Dallas teams were about 2-3 players short in the end.
 

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Season 2025 will be a repeat of the 2024 season.

Dallas has already burned their 4th rd picks with Mingo who has shown nothing. Just as Dallas threw away their 4th rd pick with Trey Lance.

Several Cowboys players will be purged and those players will be happy to get out of this circus. Then after two weeks, when the roster was purged as last season, the Cowboys will wait two weeks, to wait for players that other teams do not want and/or players who are definitely on the downside but want to just make a team.

Dallas doesn't have enough draft picks so Stephen will look for the bargains out of necessity to fill out his roster after more players leave for greener pastures.
Jerry signing up these washed up players then selling to the fans, "this team has talent to make a run"

Then a few more weeks later, we enter the 2025 draft. Instead of a higher pick, Dallas won meaningless games to get a draft pick in the later teens. And with so many holes to fill, taking the 4th/5th at their greatest need ( like Tyler Guyton) will be selected., Jerry will pick up the phone and like a car salesman,
Jerry will deliver his sales pitch to his 1st round pick:
"You are a Dallas Cowboys". That player will immediately be happy to be drafted by ANY team ( his dream of making the NFL has been accomplished)
but after reality sets in, knowing this team--Dallas, will not see a NFC Conference game. But this player is entering the circus and
will still be thrilled because he will be popular.
After the draft scenario, the draft grading and player interview where they will say all the cliches, as like the past 2 drafts,
Cowboys fans buying more pyrite by their salesman, will again be filled with hope and optimism

Again, the Cowboys fans will be so happy and Superbowl dreams will, again be 'born again' in the starving fan base.
Sounds about right.
 

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If we suck next year, maybe there will be a family mutiny and they will finally wrest all the power from Jerry and also not let him speak in public.
 

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Didn't we get embarrassed by a poor new orleans team in week 2 with all those players on the field?
DaRon Bland and Sam Williams did not play. Trevon Diggs played but was not at full strength.

The game got out of hand when two of the Saints first three scores were 70 and 59 yard passes which was followed by a drive that started on the Cowboys 20-yard line after a Prescott INT.
 

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There should either be a "Tank" forum or all of these tank threads should go in the draft forum. There are far too many examples of tanking not working across sports to consider it a viable plan to get better. See Sam Hinkie.
There's plenty where tanking worked. See Jimmy Johnson.
 

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Probably the only thing wrong with the OP is its timing.
And while I may agree with it, it's probably best suited to be revisited next season as when most of these things actually take place.

And then the genuine whining can take place again based off the season's circumstances.

It's a pretty bleak near future but I guess we can at least wait til it actually happens to whine about it.

But I'm sure the General managing, head coaching, and quarterbacking of the team will all have drastic improvements so as to disprove this speculation.

Or not.
 

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DaRon Bland and Sam Williams did not play. Trevon Diggs played but was not at full strength.

The game got out of hand when two of the Saints first three scores were 70 and 59 yard passes which was followed by a drive that started on the Cowboys 20-yard line after a Prescott INT.
I have seen Dallas Cowboys teams at full, or nearly full, strength get blown out of games. Happens to every team at some point, once a team gets behind early it's not unusual for the game to snowball and turn into a blowout. Most every game is about match ups, the Saints were a power running team with a very good defensive line. That matched up against our weak d-line and rookies at both LT and C and a mediocre running back. So you get the blowout.

Just saying.

But the two main posts here both have some truths in them. Yes, we've seen Dallas screw up the draft and screw up the salary cap and screw up free agent signings.
That's undeniable.

However, we've also seen the drafting of Parsons and Diggs and Bland as well as the addition of a Kendricks, all very good players. And injuries did hit the team at DE especially hard, both DE starters in Parsons and Lawrence and both primary backups in Williams and Kneeland. Losing 4 DEs will hurt any team. That's also undeniable. Sure, other teams have had injuries and not done so terribly, but most of those lost only one key player at a position, not 4 at one spot.

And as much as we berate Jerry for the above poor decisions, there have been some good ones, like not re-signing Tyron Smith and Tony Pollard.
Tyron is about to go on IR, probably to not play again this season and retire. But he's already had 6 penalites called against him (3 accepted) and has allowed 6 sacks. He's not the Tyron of old, letting him go was the right thing to do. Pollard? Only 835 yards, 4 tds and 4.3 ypc. Only marginally better than Rico's 600, 1 and 4.5. And with this line Pollard might have been no better than Rico.

Next year may very well play out as stated, but that's not a certainty. Get Lawrence, Bland, Diggs, etc. all back next year at full strength and the story might be markedly better. But that's not a certainty, either.

Imho, if you think 2025 is going to be another 2024, then my advice would be to find another team to root for, because Jerry's not going anywhere, nor are Stephen, etc. going to put Jerry out to pasture or castrate him of his Cowboys authority. So in that case, my advice is to sit tight and wait for the inevitable, which is a Dallas Cowboys team without Jerry Jones in charge, be it his passing or incapacity to think or act.

That's what I'm going to do.

You do what you feel is best for you....
 

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Understand but you will NEVER have a season--especially with the NFL want even MORE regular season games---to avoid injuries.
Add to this, players do even practice, as years past, in theory to avoid injuries in practice/pre-season games. But here we are,
players get injured alittle more with lack of practice.

"Easy" (except for Dallas) to use 1st/2nd rd picks on starters. It is the later rounds to find players to fill the role of DEPTH. Because Jerry is lacking,
franchise is relying on UDFA to fill these holes
It's true, injuries are going to happen. I should probably have qualified my description as "beyond reasonable".

I could probably describe a situation in which the injuries target specific areas of the team resulting in additional challenges such as losing all four DE's for many weeks or losing the starting QB or losing a 1st team All Pro CB and his three backups in rapid succession.

Any of three "examples" would be considered extreme. All three combined would certainly be considered "beyond reasonable"
 

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What are they going to do with the 100 million in cap space they are raising?
You wanna look at what overthecap says we actually have next season? (even with the roll over it is, right now, less than half of what you said). That's with only 39 players signed at the moment.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap

According to them we have $24.1 million in cap space next year (assuming a $30 million increase per team). Right now we are rolling over $20.5. That give us $44.6, which is bottom half of the league in space available - 22nd to be exact.
 
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It's true, injuries are going to happen. I should probably have qualified my description as "beyond reasonable".

I could probably describe a situation in which the injuries target specific areas of the team resulting in additional challenges such as losing all four DE's for many weeks or losing the starting QB or losing a 1st team All Pro CB and his three backups in rapid succession.

Any of three "examples" would be considered extreme. All three combined would certainly be considered "beyond reasonable"
Agreed.

Though as we all know, it's not about the players, it's about Jerry Jones.

Everything else is just window dressing...
 

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I agree. With Dak taking up $90 million in CAP space I don't think Jerry will be signing any help from outside the organization. Plus, we have a bunch of free agents to think about. The DL could be decimated. Lawrence, Odighizuwa and Golston are all free agents. Lawson is one a 1 year deal as well. Jerry made no effort to sign his players in 2024 and I expect the same thing in 2025.

Zack Martin, Cooks, Kendricks, Linval Joseph, Jourdan Lewis, Mukuamu, Hoffman, Turpin and Juanyeh Thomas are just some other Cowboys free agents next year. How many of these guys are going to walk in the off-season? There is some good depth and solid contributors on this list. If Jerry sits on his hands again in 2025, no matter how good they draft, they will have a lot of holes to fill.
 
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