Explain to me how that wasn't a 'football move' **Bryant Reversed Call Thread**

[JoeBoBBY]

"High-pointing" doesn't refer to the ball's highest point, it refers to the player's, of course.

And realize that what you're calling a "tough sell" is exactly how the play was ruled on the field.

A tough sell to me, would be over turning that #$%$#^%$^&%^&%^& play.

Are you kidding??

This Jack Wagon Replay Official who grew up in and resides right outside of Pittsburgh and owns a Business there, where Steelers Fans have a very strong strong following, and are very loyal to their own kind.

Guy just made a fortune!!!!!

 

[Derinyar]

I suppose this would be true, if they initially ruled that it was a catch originally because there WAS a football move. But i don't think what they originally ruled on that part. If they just ruled it a catch because of full control throughout going to the ground THEN the football move becomes an "out" during the review. Does that make sense. Guess we'll never know.

I'm pretty sure its a simple order of operations issue. The basic rule does not involve Item 1. The basic rule outlines three points, A, B and C, that define a completed catch. When A, B and C are completed a catch is completed and Item 1 doesn't matter. The statements by Steratore and Blandino pretty much confirm this, in that they were looking for a football move and in their judgement they didn't see one. In absence of completion of A,B and C then you go to Items 1, 2 or 3 for the ability to confirm the completion. Item one is the only one that applies here, if you assume there was no football move like stretching out for the end zone. Item 1 does say that you have to maintain control of the ball through going to the ground to complete the process of the catch. The problem is you can't complete something that's already completed. If Dez stretched for the end zone on purposed, he made a football move and therefore completed the process of the catch.

 

[cowboyuptx]

We got so screwed!!!

People act like the Lions got robbed because of a pass-interference penalty that would have put them at our 28 with them already up 20-17 and 8:30 left to play... But that call hardly decided the game! The Lions had a lead already, and they should have gone for it on 4th and 1, but they wimped out, and proceeded to punt for only 10 yards! Dallas still had to go down and score a TD to take the lead, and Detroit was given two more full possessions to mount a game winning drive and they fumbled twice!!

Dallas on the other hand had the guts to go for it all on 4th and 2! And they should have been inside the 1 yard-line looking to take a 3 point lead with under 4 minutes to play!

Maybe Rodgers leads the Packers on a game-winning TD drive that runs out the clock, it's certainly possible... But maybe the drive stalls and they only get a FG attempt... Maybe they miss said FG... Maybe the Cowboys defense stops them because the abandon the run-game while playing from behind... Maybe it goes into OT and Romo proves who is the REAL MVP of the 2014-15 season! I was extremely confident this season in any scenario that involved 9 having a chance to win the game for us! This is what they robbed us of!!!!!

The Lions were relying on a questionable call from the refs on a terribly thrown ball from Stafford... The Cowboys on the other hand did make the BIG play, and EVERYBODY with eyeballs should know that was a catch! THAT WAS A FLIPPING CATCH! They robbed us at having a better chance for so much more...................... Cowboys back in the NFC championship game, a possibility at the ultimate return to glory and a 6th Superbowl... Possibly robbed Romo of the HOF... Robbed Romo of having the opportunity to silence the haters once and for all.....

This was supposed to be the Cowboys version of the 2011 Mavericks... And like that team had Dirk, who was the best player on the planet when it counted most that season, the Cowboys had the real MVP, the guy who was going to out duel and out execute any opposition in his way! Romo was Dirk 2011 good this season! Of course that Mavericks team had one other all-time great in Jason Kidd, as do the Cowboys with Witten and likely Bryant... Both teams had great coaching! Both teams had proven formulas for how they wanted to win games... I don't know, I just had that same type of feeling about the 2014 Cowboys as the season went on, then it seemed like a great omen to have that awesome message from the Mavs right before kickoff!!

Well, at least the Mavs are also true contenders this season, so there's a little hope there (as I grasp at straws)..........

 

[Doomsday]

Apparently this is a football move according to the NFL.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/11/josh-cribbs-got-jacked-while-catching-a-punt-ruled-not-a-fumble/

 

[cowboyuptx]

I think Garrett might have gone for an onside kick after we scored, while they were still shell shocked and not at all expecting it... If we didn't get it, the Packers would have had a short field, but that would also increase the odds of Romo and the offense still having a chance to win the game should the Packers have scored... That way you'd have 3 chances at winning, recover the onside, defensive stop, or offensive comeback...

Of course that's just my imagination talking, but they did do something similar in week 17 vs the Commanders, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility...

 

[Cebrin]

I think the tripping part is fairly subjective, the argument can be made that he was going down anyway. What isn't debatable however, that the stretch for the goal line was a football move, therefore the catch is complete before anything with the ground comes in to play. Once the football move is complete (stretching out for the TD) then the catch is complete. Then the ground causes a fumble.

I'm not trying to say it was intentional, but he was tripped. You can watch as his next step in stride gets caught up and then he starts going down. I can see it as subjective for sure, but as many times as I've watched it, and knowing his athletic ability, he would of stayed up if not for the feet getting tangled. I think he initially swapped arms with the ball to have it away from the defender, but when tripped up he reached out for the TD.

 

[Lodeus]

:50 mark. Looks awfully familiar.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/0ap3000000413937/Week-7-Dez-Bryant-highlights