FA Re-do

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think Jenkins is a long-term answer at corner, so I think it's good we got Carr.

I don't think so either.

I'm not sure Jenkins is even going to be healthy enough to start the season.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I don't think Jenkins is a long-term answer at corner, so I think it's good we got Carr.

Yeah I'm hoping for the best out of him this season, but I expect for him to walk and we replace his spot with like a 3rd round draft pick after the season.

 

[silverbear]

Your confusing me here. First you say what we do in FA shouldn't affect your draft. Then you say your actions in FA allow you to take BPA. Please collect your thoughts and try again.

Maybe you need to work on your reading comprehension, because the two concepts aren't contradictory at all... in fact, they go hand in hand...

If you address your needs in free agency, then you're free to take the best player available... you don't have to reach to fill a position of need...

This is a good thing...

]quote]You think if the Bills offered Mario Williams 50 mil guaranteed and the Cowboys offered 45 mil guaranteed , he would've still signed with the Bills?
This thinking is, of course, quite ridiculous.[/quote]

What's ridiculous is thinking that any player would turn down an extra five million dollars just to have the "honor" of playing for the Dallas Cowboys...

Money talks, bullcrap walks... and you're shoveling a whole load of bullcrap here...

Jerry would not let Jenkins make it to the FA period.

First you think you know what motivates Mario Williams, now you think you know what Jerry's thinking??

You should open your own psychic hotline...

 

[silverbear]

Yeah I'm hoping for the best out of him this season, but I expect for him to walk and we replace his spot with like a 3rd round draft pick after the season.

Be careful here, Afigueroa has already explained that logical thinking confuses him... he thinks that every player in the league secretly dreams of playing for the Dallas Cowboys, and would even be willing to give up five million dollars to do so... so there's no way that Jerry would let Jenkins "get away", and presumably Michael would be more than happy to offer the Boys a home team discount...

Never mind that Laurent Robinson hit the free agent highway, even though Jerry really wanted to keep him around... and Laurent kept telling us he wanted to be in Dallas... but ultimately, he left, and the reason of course was M-O-N-E-Y...

But alas, Afigueroa lives in a fantasy world where the Cowboys can apparently sign any player they want, any time they want, and money isn't really a factor in the equation...

And he calls me "ridiculous" for laughing at his fantasy...

 

[Afigueroa22]

If you address your needs in free agency, then you're free to take the best player available... you don't have to reach to fill a position of need...
...

I wouldn't call trading up taking BPA but in this case I think we did.

It's not about playing for the Dallas Cowboys, it's about which team is in position to take you where you want to go. I have to say though I think most players would like to play for this great franchise but that was not my point. You misinterpreted it and called me out on it.

Please take the time to carefully understand these posts before mouthing off calling people's opinions bullcrap. I have not insulted you with name calling or direct attacks and I would appreciate it if you would follow the forum guidelines.

 

[Afigueroa22]

Be careful here, Afigueroa has already explained that logical thinking confuses him...

I would expect more from a veteran member like yourself. Juvenile posts where you insult my logic should be below a 59 year old man.


"Personal attacks or insults directed at other members of this site are not allowed. Name-calling and commentary about another user's family, intelligence, etc. may all be considered personal in nature."

 

[jterrell]

We wouldn't have went after Nicks regardless.
We are not paying an OG that type of money.
We have spent big on OGs before and failed miserably doing so.

Carr was the best overall player we targeted by far. Only thing we may have done was offer him less money and drag out his acquisition but we'd still need a CB in free agency. Jenkins isn't certain to be healthy and we had no CB depth at all.

 

[Afigueroa22]

We wouldn't have went after Nicks regardless.
We are not paying an OG that type of money.
We have spent big on OGs before and failed miserably doing so.

Yeah we probably would have went after Grubbs. I don't think we failed with L.Davis or K.Kosier. He didn't live up to his contract but how many drafted guys even do that?

 

[silverbear]

I wouldn't call trading up taking BPA but in this case I think we did.

Seriously?? I think if you trade up for a particular player, that's an indication that you definitely consider him the best player available at that point...

It's not about playing for the Dallas Cowboys, it's about which team is in position to take you where you want to go.

Bud, I've been watching this game for 52 years now, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that about 99 per cent of the time, it's all about the Benjamins...

The exceptions tend to be players who have already made a jillion dollars, and want a Super Bowl ring to cap their careers...

I have to say though I think most players would like to play for this great franchise but that was not my point. You misinterpreted it and called me out on it.

What other interpretation could you put on you saying that you thought Mario Williams would have taken five million dollars less to play for the Cowboys?? I mean, it's not like the Boys are one of the heavy favorites to make the Super Bowl this year...

Please take the time to carefully understand these posts

Perhaps you should make more of an effort to make your point clear... as I said, there is nothing at all unreasonable about me interpreting your remarks about Williams as a claim that he'd take less money just for the chance to play for the Cowboys...

Your inability to make your point with clarity is on you, not me...

before mouthing off calling people's opinions bullcrap.

When you post bullcrap, I'm gonna call it bullcrap... I mean, I don't have any anti-Afigueroa agenda, in fact before reading this load of bullcrap I never had any problems with your posts... truth is, this thread was so ridiculous I had a hard time believing you'd started it...

I have not insulted you with name calling or direct attacks and I would appreciate it if you would follow the forum guidelines.

I have done absolutely nothing to violate forum guidelines... if I had, I would have received at least a warning, maybe an infraction, from one of the mods...

Let me explain it to you this way-- if I said "you're an idiot", I'd be in violation of board rules... but if I said "that opinion is idiotic", I'm within the rules... attacking opinions is permissible, attacking posters is not...

It took me some months and a few infractions to wrap my mind around that distinction, LOL... but I haven't had any infractions in over two and half years now, and trust me, you're not the first poster I've gotten nose to nose with in the intervening time...

While you took my assault on your opinion personally, let me repeat again, I have no problem whatsoever with you... I just have a problem with the ridiculously asinine theory you're advancing in this thread...

I'm allowed to have that kind of problem...

 

[jterrell]

My comments from over a month ago...Quite frankly, my head still swooms thinking just how fast he signed aboard the Bucs pirate ship. He could have easily initiated a bidding war for his services, but he wanted out of New Orleans so bad... whoa! kinda dizzy there...

He was obviously shopping his services and getting bids BEFORE free agency opened.
Dallas was never in the mix for him and never would have been.
We also didn't like Ben Grubbs at all.

 

[jterrell]

Yeah we probably would have went after Grubbs. I don't think we failed with L.Davis or K.Kosier. He didn't live up to his contract but how many drafted guys even do that?

No, we would not have.

Callahan reportedly didn't grade Grubbs highly for his scheme.

 

[Hostile]

Free agency should be done after the draft. Exactly for this reason.

I prefer it that way by a mile.

 

[silverbear]

I would expect more from a veteran member like yourself. Juvenile posts where you insult my logic should be below a 59 year old man.

Actually, I was insulting your lack of logic... again, this is permissible within the board's rules...

"Personal attacks or insults directed at other members of this site are not allowed. Name-calling and commentary about another user's family, intelligence, etc. may all be considered personal in nature."

Uhhh, logic and intelligence are two rather different things... I have known very smart people, brilliant even, but they were quite lost if asked to engage in logical analysis, you know, if A happens, then B will follow... just like there are very smart people who suck at math, just like Albert Einsten was reportedly terrible when it came to writing... I have also known very logical people who were dumber than a box of rocks...

This entire thread is illogical, and you have spent considerable time defending your illogical thread... this calls your logical thinking skills into question...

And shame on you, for insulting my age... ROTFLMAO...

 

[Afigueroa22]

He was obviously shopping his services and getting bids BEFORE free agency opened.
Dallas was never in the mix for him and never would have been.
We also didn't like Ben Grubbs at all.

I wa just hoping we could any player to replace Costa and help along the line.

 

[silverbear]

No, we would not have.

Callahan reportedly didn't grade Grubbs highly for his scheme.

Once again, the lad makes assumptions that are not rooted in reality, and we're supposed to accept them as facts...

One hopes he's learning in this thread that you've gotta bring more to the debate than his uninformed assumptions...

 

[silverbear]

I wa just hoping we could any player to replace Costa and help along the line.

How do you know we didn't?? Callahan seemed to really like the guys we brought in, judging by the fact Bernadeau and Livings were among our first free agent signings (IIRC, it was Orton first, followed by the two blockers)...

This time, I'm not baiting you, because I also wanted to see a serious upgrade on the offensive line... and like you, I'm not at all comfortable with out center situation at this point... but unlike you, I'm putting some faith in Callahan knowing what he's doing, based on his reputation around the league... so if he thinks that Bernadeau and Livings and Leary are the answers to the problem, I'm gonna sit back and see if he's right...

 

[Afigueroa22]

This entire thread is illogical, and you have spent considerable time defending your illogical thread... this calls your logical thinking skills into question...

And shame on you, for insulting my age... ROTFLMAO...

I would like to think I have firm grasp on logic as I was praised not more than a week ago by my critical thinking professor who is a very accomplished logcian.

You are wrong about players playing for just money. Money might be priority #1 for some players but success has to factor in somewhere. Guys take pay cuts to allow their team to spend in FA.

 

[jterrell]

I wa just hoping we could any player to replace Costa and help along the line.

I understand.
The FO didn't rate that a huge need as many here do.
Metrics suggest our OL woes are vastly overstated.
Romo was sacked about an average number of times and we ran the ball for a fairly high yards per attempt average.

I'd say let's get to camp and see how these young ol look before going all risen star. It is far away from week 1 and there really is no need to panic.

We did VERY well this off-season. No need for any re-do imho.

We added at least 4 starters in free agency and 1 in the draft.
That's a pretty salty off-season.

Going big-name free agent fails more often than it hits.
second-tier guys have a higher rate of success because they have reasonable expectations.

Mo
Carr
Livings
Bern
(Pool)(Matt37)
Vickers
(Coale)

 

[Afigueroa22]

We added at least 4 starters in free agency and 1 in the draft.
That's a pretty salty off-season.

I have a feeling Crawford could push for a starting job also.

 

[DeaconBlues]

I would like to think I have firm grasp on logic as I was praised not more than a week ago by my critical thinking professor who is a very accomplished logcian.

You are wrong about players playing for just money. Money might be priority #1 for some players but success has to factor in somewhere. Guys take pay cuts to allow their team to spend in FA.

Nice. Doesn't make up for your lack of informed opinion on the NFL, but nice anyway.