CFZ Failure equals Motivation

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1. Always kind of sorta being in the mix, even if we all know we're not winning anything, won't do it

2. 12-5 and losing before the conference championship game won't do it.

3. Losing in the Wild Card game won't do it.

4. Going 9-8 and being in the mix for a wild card spot won't do it.

The only thing that's going to cause real change is drafting around the top 5 for a few years in a row. Jerry thinks his way of "we like our guys", not trying to make a splash in free agency, or trying to get better via trades is working, because it kinda is, because we're not complete bottom feeders. We're usually in the playoff picture until the end. Most of us know we're not really going to do anything in the playoffs, but as long we're in the mix Jerry thinks we're close. This is a major issue with this organization.

This is why we should just suck it up and hope for complete and utter failure. We should be hoping for last place in the division. We should be hoping for a top 5 draft pick. We're not at the level of the top teams in the NFL because we don't operate in the same ways they do. Just because we make the playoffs every couple of years doesn't mean we're at the same level of the teams we're competing against in the playoffs. We've carved out this spot where we're slightly better than middle of the pack most years. That's good enough to beat an 8-9 team in the Wild Card game, but not good enough to advance further. The difference in us and those teams that are better than us are when things don't work they tear it down and rebuild. We don't do that. We're comfortable being slightly better than the middle.

Jerry thinks he can field a Super Bowl caliber team every year with his guys. He's wrong and we have 30 years of proof. The only thing that going to make Jerry go after that big FA, draft that QB at the top of the 1st round, or make that big trade is complete and utter failure and desperation for his Cowboys to be competitive. He's not been desperate like that for awhile now. Even in the 8-8 Romo years we were always a Week 17 win away from making the playoffs. Desperation to be competitive is the only thing I could see making Jerry do something out of the ordinary.

If there's anything that Jerry hates about being in the spotlight. It's being in the spotlight because of failure. We see how contentious he can get with media when we lose and they question his decisions. He will give these defensive answers when his decisions are questions. It clearly gets to him when he thinks "his way" is not working. This is why, as Cowboys fans, we should just take it on the chin for a few years and hope for complete failure from the organization. I fear that anything less than this will see us every offseason going the business as usual route and doing nothing.
 

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1. Always kind of sorta being in the mix, even if we all know we're not winning anything, won't do it

2. 12-5 and losing before the conference championship game won't do it.

3. Losing in the Wild Card game won't do it.

4. Going 9-8 and being in the mix for a wild card spot won't do it.

The only thing that's going to cause real change is drafting around the top 5 for a few years in a row. Jerry thinks his way of "we like our guys", not trying to make a splash in free agency, or trying to get better via trades is working, because it kinda is, because we're not complete bottom feeders. We're usually in the playoff picture until the end. Most of us know we're not really going to do anything in the playoffs, but as long we're in the mix Jerry thinks we're close. This is a major issue with this organization.

This is why we should just suck it up and hope for complete and utter failure. We should be hoping for last place in the division. We should be hoping for a top 5 draft pick. We're not at the level of the top teams in the NFL because we don't operate in the same ways they do. Just because we make the playoffs every couple of years doesn't mean we're at the same level of the teams we're competing against in the playoffs. We've carved out this spot where we're slightly better than middle of the pack most years. That's good enough to beat an 8-9 team in the Wild Card game, but not good enough to advance further. The difference in us and those teams that are better than us are when things don't work they tear it down and rebuild. We don't do that. We're comfortable being slightly better than the middle.

Jerry thinks he can field a Super Bowl caliber team every year with his guys. He's wrong and we have 30 years of proof. The only thing that going to make Jerry go after that big FA, draft that QB at the top of the 1st round, or make that big trade is complete and utter failure and desperation for his Cowboys to be competitive. He's not been desperate like that for awhile now. Even in the 8-8 Romo years we were always a Week 17 win away from making the playoffs. Desperation to be competitive is the only thing I could see making Jerry do something out of the ordinary.

If there's anything that Jerry hates about being in the spotlight. It's being in the spotlight because of failure. We see how contentious he can get with media when we lose and they question his decisions. He will give these defensive answers when his decisions are questions. It clearly gets to him when he thinks "his way" is not working. This is why, as Cowboys fans, we should just take it on the chin for a few years and hope for complete failure from the organization. I fear that anything less than this will see us every offseason going the business as usual route and doing nothing.




I like it!!
 

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Your premise is that the FO wants to win. They do not care about winning. They care about being competitive , keeping ratings, revenue, and sales high. Being unbearable to watch , takes away from achieving those things. Being in the mix and never winning does not. They’re on record saying this themselves. (Being afraid of being terrible)
 

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The only way to bring real change is damage to the revenue . That includes empty seats at the stadium , less viewership and less merchandise sold along with less sponsorship.

Losing records hasn’t made that impact. And with these idiots running the draft no guarantee they’d use those picks wisely.

Na, I think we are stuck until Jethro Jone$ kicks the bucket and hope his kids hire a real GM.
 

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Your premise is that the FO wants to win. They do not care about winning. They care about being competitive , keeping ratings, revenue, and sales high. Being unbearable to watch , takes away from achieving those things. Being in the mix and never winning does not. They’re on record saying this themselves. (Being afraid of being terrible)
Right

Yea , they’d love to luck out and win a championship but basically in their own words and actions it isn’t a priority. Remaining relevant is.
 
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Losing records hasn’t made that impact. And with these idiots running the draft no guarantee they’d use those picks wisely.
Exactly. They won four games in 2015. They then signed Benson Mayowa, Cedric Thornton, Alfred Morris.

They just struck gold with Zeke and Dak the following year.
 

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This isn’t a championship caliber franchise anymore . Cowboy fans must accept . The bar has been lowered by Jethro’s agendas .
 

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Exactly. They won four games in 2015. They then signed Benson Mayowa, Cedric Thornton, Alfred Morris.

They just struck gold with Zeke and Dak the following year.
2015 can be excused because of the Romo injury.

Just like 2020 is excused for the Dak injury.

1 bad year isn't going to change anything. As my post said. We need it to be a few years process.
 

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Your premise is that the FO wants to win. They do not care about winning. They care about being competitive , keeping ratings, revenue, and sales high. Being unbearable to watch , takes away from achieving those things. Being in the mix and never winning does not. They’re on record saying this themselves. (Being afraid of being terrible)
This is why "being in the mix" needs to be eliminated from the equation with bad years and top 5 picks.
 

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2015 can be excused because of the Romo injury.

Just like 2020 is excused for the Dak injury.

1 bad year isn't going to change anything. As my post said. We need it to be a few years process.
My point is though, they don’t care if it’s bad. They just feel it will even itself out eventually and that they remain the smartest two guys in the room
 

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It is what it is. And has been for years . I waved my white flag a long time ago. Apathy has set in. We are a joke of a football franchise .

It’s sad from where we came from with one of the best ran franchises in the planet .

The glory years are long gone . Maybe another couple decades and another generation dying off we will eventually fall from the popularity that those early glory eras provided .
 

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The Joneses do not define failure as a lot of the fans do.

There are fans, believe it or not, that do not see back-to-back 12 win seasons and making the playoffs as failure.
That's why 12-5 needs to turn into 5-12.

That's the only way Jerry tries anything different.
 

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My point is though, they don’t care if it’s bad. They just feel it will even itself out eventually and that they remain the smartest two guys in the room

The problem is it's never bad for long enough. It's only bad for a year or so and then we're back in the mix. The badness needs to last.
 

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My point is though, they don’t care if it’s bad. They just feel it will even itself out eventually and that they remain the smartest two guys in the room
They’re smart enough to keep it from hitting rock bottom . And why they retain talent and or over pay to keep them relative not willing to make bolder moves or take risk which could get them over the top for fear of falling totally off the Cliff.
 

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Lmao! Always complaining about Jerry, yet y'all continue to follow and watch his product every single year. It's like complaining about Walmart products, yet you continue to shop there.

The problem is not Jerry. Stop complaining and simply go follow another team. Go do your shopping elsewhere.
Problem solved.
 

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The problem is it's never bad for long enough. It's only bad for a year or so and then we're back in the mix. The badness needs to last.
Even when we had those 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons it didn’t bring enough change . Yes, Jethro had to bow out a little with Bill but eventually he still meddled and ran him off .

Jethro is too much to overcome !!!
 

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Lmao! Always complaining about Jerry, yet y'all continue to follow and watch his product every single year. It's like complaining about Walmart products, yet you continue to shop there.

The problem is not Jerry. Stop complaining and simply go follow another team. Go do your shopping elsewhere.
Problem solved.
That’s all you got. What if Walmart is only store in town .

We can be critical of ownership while still patronizing their product.
 
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