Faine can seek trade

[jimmy4713]

The Browns have given center Jeff Faine's agent permission to seek a trade for the 2003 first-round pick, an NFL source said Monday.

Faine (6-3, 291) became expendable last week when the Browns signed former Saints center/guard LeCharles Bentley as a free agent.

Faine can seek trade
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Another first rounder of the Butch Browns bites the dust. Also mentioned is Crocker, their third rounder that year who was recently traded to the Falcons. Any interest in Faine?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

He is not really much bigger then Johnson.......is he strong?

 

[burmafrd]

He is about the same size as Johnson and probably little if any stronger.
Push. Bentley was the only center out there that would have been a big upgrade.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Not sure, he really didnt show anything last few years in Cleveland. However, he is just 25 years old, really quick, but I sense not great power. I might be interested in him for Dallas if its a 4th round pick, say 4th pick or 3rd in 2007.

But first, I want to see how Al Johnson is doing, reports are, that he is ticked off about his lack of size and strength. Camp reports are saying that he has put on weight, and increased his strength in weight lifting etc. So, we will see. Gurode, is still there too, but we only have him signed for 1 year. Gurode has more size, etc, but his attitude, desire is something to be desired.

 

[conner01]

i really liked faine coming out of college but he just has'nt panned out. not as good as al because he stays injured too

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Faine actually finished in the top 10 in my statistical analysis of centers this season and in some cases, right around the top 5 centers. A buddy of mine is a Cleveland fan who follows the O-Line really closely and said that outside of Pat Williams, Faine looked good all season long. Considering Williams destroyed every center he faced last year, that's a good thing.

Still, I highly doubt the Cowboys would want Faine since they don't seem to high on taking lightweight centers and already have two centers.

I think Cleveland would be a bit stupid to trade him unless they get at the very worst a second round pick. Bentley told Cleveland news that since he's in Cleveland, he'll play any position they want him to. With Shaffer, Bentley, Andruzzi and Faine, that makes for a real nice group of starting O-Linemen.

Rich.........

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

imo...probably one of the worst centers in the league. No thank you.

 

[Idgit]

Faine actually finished in the top 10 in my statistical analysis of centers this season and in some cases, right around the top 5 centers. A buddy of mine is a Cleveland fan who follows the O-Line really closely and said that outside of Pat Williams, Faine looked good all season long. Considering Williams destroyed every center he faced last year, that's a good thing.

Still, I highly doubt the Cowboys would want Faine since they don't seem to high on taking lightweight centers and already have two centers.

I think Cleveland would be a bit stupid to trade him unless they get at the very worst a second round pick. Bentley told Cleveland news that since he's in Cleveland, he'll play any position they want him to. With Shaffer, Bentley, Andruzzi and Faine, that makes for a real nice group of starting O-Linemen.

Rich.........

Faine's biggest problem is that he plays in Cleveland. I could see a team like the Texans, with Kubiak there, being interested in him.

 

[Gaede]

I wonder what happened to him

He was awesome in college...I was really high on him in his draft

 

[speedkilz88]

My Lindy's mag has him listed as 6-3 300, I would be interested in a later round pick or maybe a conditional one.

 

[Eskimo]

A buddy of mine is a Cleveland fan who follows the O-Line really closely and said that outside of Pat Williams, Faine looked good all season long. Considering Williams destroyed every center he faced last year, that's a good thing.

Too bad Fergy previously played for BP - Pat Williams signed with Vikes for about the same price that Fergy did.

 

[speedkilz88]

Also Kiper had Faine as a blue chip(dominant center), while Al Johnson was his second best center that wasn't dominant. but hard nosed.

 

[JonCJG]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/johnson_al

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/faine_jeff

Coming out of college Johnson was bigger, stronger faster and has longer arms and bigger hands.

We need to get bigger and stronger at Center not slower and weaker.

 

[JonCJG]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/profiles/gurode_andre.htm

Gurode has all the talent in the world; he needs to step it up once and for all. Being a contract year I hope it gives him the motivation to step up and claim the center spot.

AGILITY TESTS

5.34 in the 40-yard dash … 3.14 in the 20-yard dash … 1.89 in the 10-yard dash … 5.05 in the 20-yard shuttle … 8.15 in the three-cone drill … 30 1/2-inch vertical jump … 8'4" broad jump … 458-pound bench press … 641-pound squat … 330-pound power clean … 35-inch arm length … 11-inch hands … Right-handed… Added over 30 pounds to his frame since arriving on campus as a freshman.

 

[speedkilz88]

Leverage and leg strength is a lot more important than bulk at the center position. Try looking up the best centers in the league. Most will be the same size or smaller than those two.

 

[JonCJG]

That is true but I think Gurode could be better than them both if he made better calls at the line. At Colorodo he was a beast, he knows about leverage.

And leg strength? He was much stronger, squating 140lbs more than Johnson and almost 100 more than Faine coming out of college.

 

[Manster54]

I really don't think Faine is a dominant center and is no better than Johnson. I really wish Gurode would quit the mental errors and be the beast I think he can be. Of all the line positions, center must be the mentally quickest...

 

[Rack]

I really like Faine, but he wouldn't fit in with our offense. He's undersized and does not get a lot of push on running plays.


I think he'd be a beast in Denver's offense.

 

[dbair1967]

Faine actually finished in the top 10 in my statistical analysis of centers this season and in some cases, right around the top 5 centers. A buddy of mine is a Cleveland fan who follows the O-Line really closely and said that outside of Pat Williams, Faine looked good all season long. Considering Williams destroyed every center he faced last year, that's a good thing.

Still, I highly doubt the Cowboys would want Faine since they don't seem to high on taking lightweight centers and already have two centers.

I think Cleveland would be a bit stupid to trade him unless they get at the very worst a second round pick. Bentley told Cleveland news that since he's in Cleveland, he'll play any position they want him to. With Shaffer, Bentley, Andruzzi and Faine, that makes for a real nice group of starting O-Linemen.

Rich.........

wow...cant say I agree with that, and apparently the Browns didnt either or they wouldnt have made Bentley one of the leagues highest paid players to get him

Faine has been a major disappointment and he's been hurt alot...I doubt anyone would give them more than a late 2nd day pick for him...its also another reason why I think drafting interior OL's in the 1st rd is a waste

David

 

[Rack]

wow...cant say I agree with that, and apparently the Browns didnt either or they wouldnt have made Bentley one of the leagues highest paid players to get him

Faine has been a major disappointment and he's been hurt alot...I doubt anyone would give them more than a late 2nd day pick for him...its also another reason why I think drafting interior OL's in the 1st rd is a waste

David

No he hasn't. As usual you exhaggerate to try and get your point across.

The reason Faine is being replaced is cuz he's not big and/or strong enough to push Casey Hampton around. He's one of the last centers in the league you'd want if facing a 3-4.

But, like I said, he'd fit in real well in Denver. Or even Atlanta (same OL scheme).