Fair Compensation

[Verdict]

if you are a GM trading for Romo and you believe the following:

1. Romo is healthy
2. He can withstand the rigors of a season
3. He is a top 5 QB
4. You can absorb his cap hit
5. With Romo your team is an instant super bowl contender and without him you will likely waste a window of opportunity

What would you give up for Romo? If you win a super bowl what was he worth to you?

If Jerry jones were guaranteed a super bowl in exchange for three first round picks do you think jerry would do it? Hell yeah he would. He hasn't been there since 1995 and the Texans have NEVER even been to one.

 

[waldoputty]

the problem is #2

 

[okstateCowboy]

No one thinks Romo is a top 5 QB anymore.

 

[pacy]

I would take this years #2 overall pick.

 

[SDCowboy]

the problem is #2

And #3. Saying Romo, at 37 and not having played sustained football in two season, is a top 5QB with nothing to prove that, is a stretch.

To answer the OP's question, though, I think a high 3rd or 2nd round pick would be relatively fair, given the risks the trading team would be taking.

 

[Verdict]

We aren't changing the hypothetical. I asked if you believed all of the above what would be fair compensation.

 

[Verdict]

Please stick to the thread topic.

 

[waving monkey]

Injury is the big elephant in the room
it is the point of negotiation between the two teams therefore it would involve a conditional pick
I would think

 

[Reverend Conehead]

If all of the above were true, a #1 would be fair. But all of the above isn't true. #2 is the biggest question mark. In reality, a #3 is fair.

 

[waldoputty]

And #3. Saying Romo, at 37 and not having played sustained football in two season, is a top 5QB with nothing to prove that, is a stretch.

To answer the OP's question, though, I think a high 3rd or 2nd round pick would be relatively fair, given the risks the trading team would be taking.

i can go for #3 if #2 is not a problem
good lord, a top 5 QB would be worth ~2 #1 picks lol

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

2nd round pick is fair compensation, but would settle for a high 3rd if thats the best we could do. Anything less than that I'm holding him longer to see if the price increases.

 

[Verdict]

i can go for #3 if #2 is not a problem
good lord, a top 5 QB would be worth ~2 #1 picks lol

What would Rogers fetch on the open market? Three firsts?

If you believe all of the things that I said to assume for this exercise then 3 first would not be out of line. No one is probably going to give us 3 firsts for Romo because of the variables, but I think a first and another high pick are in play here.

Maybe a 1st and a 2nd or 3rd that can conditionally become two number ones.

 

[Idgit]

No one thinks Romo is a top 5 QB anymore.

Pretty sure that's not true.

He's worth a #2. If we don't get it, it's because Jerry discounted it to get him where Tony really wants to be.

 

[waldoputty]

What would Rogers fetch on the open market? Three firsts?

If you believe all of the things that I said to assume for this exercise then 3 first would not be out of line. No one is probably going to give us 3 firsts for Romo because of the variables, but I think a first and another high pick are in play here.

Maybe a 1st and a 2nd or 3rd that can conditionally become two number ones.

come on, we can play this game all day long
rodgers could fetch at least 2 may be 3.
if we can get a 1st, i am all for it.
bears #3
jets #6
bills #11
cardinals #13
washington #17
denver #20
texans #25
chiefs #27

 

[plasticman]

If you are a GM in the NFL and you want to trade for a player you need, then the last thing you are going to describe is fair compensation. You want compensation to be completely unfair completely in your advantage.

A GM will only accept fair compensation if they have no leverage to negotiate something less. This is why both sides typically start with a wide difference in opinion as to the compensation. Eventually, they get close enough to make a deal. Otherwise, it unravels or ends when a competitor reaches an agreement before you.

The concept of fair compensation involves many variables, for example, demand, need, competitive relationship (such as a division rival), physical condition of the player, perceived impact on team chemistry, perceived impact on team performance, etc.

Since fans have insufficient information to base an opinion, we rely more on stats, results, and emotional attachment.

Tony Romo is a 13 year veteran with recent injury issues. his past performance resulted in a statistical standing as the 3rd to 5th best QB rating in history, depending on the parameters. However, he has a shaky playoff record and reputation in elimination conditions. He requires quality protection and a reasonable diversity of receiving options. He is intelligent, competitive and a student of the game. Indications are, he would not be opposed to taking on a mentor role with the younger QB's, a strong plus in many scenarios.

I would say a 4th round pick in 2017 draft and/or a conditional pick in 2018 based on performance. My gut feeling is Jerry would arrange the 2018 conditional pick. Perhaps, it would be a 3rd round pick to go as high as the 1st round depending on Tony's performance combined with team success.

Than again, he may be used for the purpose of moving up in this coming draft. I doubt he would be considered fair compensation for anything more than 5 picks in the 1st round, more likely it would be a move from the current 2nd round position to the top 5 to 10 area in the 2nd round.

 

[robjay04]

Pretty sure that's not true.

He's worth a #2. If we don't get it, it's because Jerry discounted it to get him where Tony really wants to be.

How could you consider him top 5?

Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees, and Ben all have to be firmly ahead of him. You also have Wilson, Derek Carr and Stafford that may deserve recognition over Romo. Cam Newton has won a MVP since Romo played last and I don't like the guy but statically Cousins has had a very productive two season stretch while Romo has been watching.

Most of the NFL considerred Romo as somewhere on the lower end of the top 10. 2014 propelled him into the discussion as a top 5 quarterback but when you haven't played in two seasons, kind of hard to still argue that.

 

[Idgit]

How could you consider him top 5?

Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees, and Ben all have to be firmly ahead of him. You also have Wilson, Derek Carr and Stafford that may deserve recognition over Romo. Cam Newton has won a MVP since Romo played last and I don't like the guy but statically Cousins has had a very productive two season stretch while Romo has been watching.

Most of the NFL considerred Romo as somewhere on the lower end of the top 10. 2014 propelled him into the discussion as a top 5 quarterback but when you haven't played in two seasons, kind of hard to still argue that.

I have no idea where 'most of the NFL' places him. I've always considered Romo one of the very top QBs in the league. The last season he played he and Rodgers were pushing each other for top in the QB ratings. I've seen nothing in the intervening time to suggest his play had dropped off whatsoever.

I do admit I think ranking players linearly when there's way too many variables factoring into the equation is silly, but he's a guy you can win a Superbowl with if you have the rest of the team. That's all that really matters. Well worth a conditional 2nd to the right contender.

 

[gmoney112]

I'd say conditional 2nd that could turn into a 1st.

 

[Verdict]

I have no idea how this will play out but giving Romo up for anything other than a first round value is a missed opportunity and a discount to his real value to his acquiring team. We just have to be willing to really eat his contract next year. If we are willing to do that and teams who want him believe it then his compensation will a hell of a lot more than some of you think it will be.

Whether the Cowboys have the skill and the balls to pull that off is more of a legitimate debate. I am hoping McClay and Steven tie up Jerry and get full value out of this.

Maybe Miles Garett has been told he is our target if we can trade up and that was the basis for his tweets a week or so ago asking for us to trade up for him.

 

[Verdict]

I'd say conditional 2nd that could turn into a 1st.

I think that is the lowest end of reasonability that the team should consider. The problem is that the lower end twos are almost a 3rd rounder.