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AdamJT13;3023634 said:
Every defense we play is horrible, remember? That's the only reason we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game.

Exactly -- any time we make a play it's just bad tackling, bad defense, busted coverage by the other team.

But when someone like Jeremy Maclin makes a play on Tampa, its hand-wringing, rueing, and "omgz we has no playmakaz".
 

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You kinda knew the way his knee buckled that he was done for the year. It just looked awkward.

That said, this should play into our favor. It will be interesting to see if we can find a way to take advantage with Roy and Austin.
 

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Idgit;3023572 said:
Our offense is predicated on taking what the defense gives us. If they're down in the secondary, we'll take advantage of it.

I'd like to see us go empty-set some more. And it might be fun to see a little no-huddle/sugar huddle in the middle of a game if we can get them in their dime and on their heels.


A hurry up offense? Whats that? We can barely snap the ball in the allotted time as it is.
 

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AdamJT13;3023566 said:
We had more yards passing in both of those games than any other team has had against them this season.

We had almost 150 YAC on three plays against KC solely due to Miles Austin's effort. Outside of those 3 plays we were 17-31 for 200 yards, which isnt impressive against the 25th ranked pass defense giving up 250 YPG

Against Carolina, we had 255 yards in the air and anyone who watched the game, especially the first half, knows we had trouble throwing the ball. Granted, we were playing conservative and Romo wasnt looking very comfortable.
 

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Monster Heel;3023620 said:
i don't know. let's try one that didn't get padded with two 50+ yard gainers, one in overtime. I doubt that happens again this season. What happens when the Cowboys don't play horrible defenses? Those types of plays don't happen and we barely move the ball through the air because this is a mediocre at best passing offense.

So which plays do count under your system? You people need to let me know which one count and which ones don't. It all so confusing.
 

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AdamJT13;3023566 said:
We had more yards passing in both of those games than any other team has had against them this season.

Still we struggled.
 

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AdamJT13;3023634 said:
Every defense we play is horrible, remember? That's the only reason we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game.

Regardless of rankings, our passing game has struggled mightily at times this year. Stats don't tell the story, watching the games does.
 

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Monster Heel;3023620 said:
i don't know. let's try one that didn't get padded with two 50+ yard gainers, one in overtime. I doubt that happens again this season. What happens when the Cowboys don't play horrible defenses? Those types of plays don't happen and we barely move the ball through the air because this is a mediocre at best passing offense.

Tom Brady finding his form could be bad news for the rest of the NFL and the Patriots sent the Titans plummeting to a new low in their winless season with a 59-0 win on a snowy day in Foxborough.

Brady threw five scoring passes in the second quarter and the Patriots built the biggest halftime lead in league history, 45-0. The six touchdown throws tied Brady's own Patriots record.

The Patriots (4-2) gained a club-record 619 yards, with Brady completing 29 of 34 passes for 380 yards.

However, the NFL will only give Brady credit for 254 of those 380 yards as three of those passes accounted for 126 yards. According to one CZ poster, long passing plays don't count because they are considered stat padding.


:) :) :)
 

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AdamJT13;3023566 said:
We had more yards passing in both of those games than any other team has had against them this season.

dont let facts interfere with his hate........

The30YardSlant;3023725 said:
We had almost 150 YAC on three plays against KC solely due to Miles Austin's effort. Outside of those 3 plays we were 17-31 for 200 yards, which isnt impressive against the 25th ranked pass defense giving up 250 YPG

Against Carolina, we had 255 yards in the air and anyone who watched the game, especially the first half, knows we had trouble throwing the ball. Granted, we were playing conservative and Romo wasnt looking very comfortable.

do you think ANY team gets 350 yrds passing and its all in the air with no YAC?
some people say the dumbest things just to try and make their views seem plausable....you got owned....now go sit in the corner and be good little property
 

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Monster Heel;3023620 said:
i don't know. let's try one that didn't get padded with two 50+ yard gainers, one in overtime. I doubt that happens again this season. What happens when the Cowboys don't play horrible defenses? Those types of plays don't happen and we barely move the ball through the air because this is a mediocre at best passing offense.

So if Miles Austin didn't break any tackles than whose to say the Cowboys still wouldn't have racked up passing yards? That's ridiculous. You can use that argument for EVERY quarterback in the league.
 

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dadymat;3023744 said:
dont let facts interfere with his hate........



do you think ANY team gets 350 yrds passing and its all in the air with no YAC?
some people say the dumbest things just to try and make their views seem plausable....you got owned....now go sit in the corner and be good little property

There is a difference between YAC and YAC due to the receiver breaking 2 or 3 tackles. It's not like Romo led him perfectly to an open spot and he walked in for the two TDs.

I'll say it again: Anybody who watched those games knows we had trouble throwing the ball more often than not.
 

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AdamJT13;3023634 said:
Every defense we play is horrible, remember? That's the only reason we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game.

Can we please stop with the "we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game" crap? The bottom line is that we're 3-2 (barely above average, again) and that "we're ranked No. 1..." nonsense doesn't explain that! Throwing out saelected offensive stas is as meaningful as Wade telling us that a playoff bye week is like a win. We may be tops in a total-offense metric, but we still can't score squat in the red zone, and if we are to be realistic about 3-2, we should focus on fixing that than tooting our horn about a meaningless stat we're doing well on.
 

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The30YardSlant;3023750 said:
There is a difference between YAC and YAC due to the receiver breaking 2 or 3 tackles. It's not like Romo led him perfectly to an open spot and he walked in for the two TDs.

I'll say it again: Anybody who watched those games knows we had trouble throwing the ball more often than not.

ok..let compromise ......lets just say that other than the 704 yds and 5 tds we had trouble throwing against them......
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3023752 said:
Can we please stop with the "we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game" crap? The bottom line is that we're 3-2 (barely above average, again) and that "we're ranked No. 1..." nonsense doesn't explain that! Throwing out saelected offensive stas is as meaningful as Wade telling us that a playoff bye week is like a win. We may be tops in a total-offense metric, but we still can't score squat in the red zone, and if we are to be realistic about 3-2, we should focus on fixing that than tooting our horn about a meaningless stat we're doing well on.


OK...so that puts us right on par with our division...right where we wanna be.....above Skins, tied with Eagals and only 1 game back of the division leader....but you probably dont see it that way
 

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The30YardSlant;3023736 said:
Regardless of rankings, our passing game has struggled mightily at times this year. Stats don't tell the story, watching the games does.

Oh no you di'nt!
 

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dadymat;3023758 said:
ok..let compromise ......lets just say that other than the 704 yds and 5 tds we had trouble throwing against them......

Or how about we stop the arguing and realize all this is moot because it was against Kansas-****ing-City :rolleyes:
 

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The30YardSlant;3023750 said:
There is a difference between YAC and YAC due to the receiver breaking 2 or 3 tackles. It's not like Romo led him perfectly to an open spot and he walked in for the two TDs.

The first one was a very well thrown slant and would have been a very good tackle by the CB. Although the safeties did take horrible angles on Austin. It was also a very good pre-snap blitz recognition to get it right to the guy who wasn't going to have a safety in front of him. Sorry, that one doesn't really pass the "it was just 2 or 3 broken tackles" test.

The 2nd one was, but it was still an accurate pass that would have gained 10 needed yards or so on a 2nd and 15 and help keep the drive moving, so I don't see the point in complaining that our guy could break a tackle. It happens even for Brady.

We also had 3 drops in the end zone, which is correctable.

Honestly I thought that was a better passing game than the Tampa game, even if for some reason you discount some broken tackle YAC. That was certainly as accurate as Romo has been all year, I think he only had 1 really bad overthrow to Witten.
 

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dadymat;3023761 said:
OK...so that puts us right on par with our division...right where we wanna be.....above Skins, tied with Eagals and only 1 game back of the division leader....but you probably dont see it that way

That's exactly how I see it. I also see a Cowboy team that quit at the end of last season and still struggles to close. Everyone wants to treat this team with kid gloves. Sorry, not me, not any more.

At some point this team has to prove that they're not soft. Beating KC the way they ended up having to (i.e. having to overcome their owen pitiful play against a bad team) is a good start. But KC is not quite the "measuring stick" either. In fact we lost the two "measuring stick" games we played this season.

Sorry if I wish to NOT use the excuse that those two losses came against undefeated teams, or to NOT use the offensive ranking, to whine about how we should be ranked higher in the poor power-ramnkings. Sorry, but those undefeated teams are undefeated because they beat us. And that #1 ranking has nothing to do with hte fact that we struggle to score TDs in the red zone.

Until we start winning those games and scoring those TDs, we're just 3-2, sandwiched in the middle of our division. Sorry, but that's not "change"; not until that changes anyways.
 

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The30YardSlant;3023750 said:
I'll say it again: Anybody who watched those games knows we had trouble throwing the ball more often than not.

We had no almost trouble throwing the ball against Carolina. Romo completed 13 of his first 17 passes and finished 22-for-33 for 255 yards. Witten caught every single pass thrown to him, and both wide receivers averaged more than 10 yards per target. There were a few key passes that were dropped or fell incomplete, but overall, the passing game worked quite well in that game.

Against Kansas City, it was mostly the same thing. Even if you take away Austin's YAC after breaking tackles on his two long TDs, Romo still threw for 260 yards.

In both games, the only real problems with the passing game came on a few goal-to-go plays.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3023752 said:
Can we please stop with the "we're ranked No. 1 in yards per game" ****? The bottom line is that we're 3-2 (barely above average, again) and that "we're ranked No. 1..." nonsense doesn't explain that! Throwing out saelected offensive stas is as meaningful as Wade telling us that a playoff bye week is like a win. We may be tops in a total-offense metric, but we still can't score squat in the red zone, and if we are to be realistic about 3-2, we should focus on fixing that than tooting our horn about a meaningless stat we're doing well on.

Calm down. His post was about our offense, not about our defense's inability to close out games.

We should be able to discuss specific aspects of the team without having people like you whine about our overall record being the only thing we should discuss.
 
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