FAN 105.3FM: Coaches/GMs rank NFL QBs. (Dak in Tier 2, 9th overall)

[beware_d-ware]

There's not enough games to call Jordan Love a tier 1 quarterback yet, but I don't see any real holes in his game. He's a stud.

Trevor Lawrence has that kind of ability too, and this may be his breakout year.

Dak is a Kirk Cousins type physically-limited maximizer at this point. Tier 2's fair.

Deshaun should be about a tier 6 at this point. He has looked nothing but dreadful in Cleveland.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Sando has been doing this for several years. Gets private opinions from those who know, and ranks by tiers from their results.

Fun video to watch. Well thought out. Article he references in video is on link. Dak was ranked 9th overall By GM, Coaches.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5715508/2024/08/26/nfl-qb-rankings-2024-patrick-mahomes/



Quick Recap:

• Dak is poster child for Tier 2. Been ranked there in NFL for last few years.
• NFL thinks Rodgers lost a step
• Many voters want to rank Lamar in first tier but don’t think good enough passer
• NFL execs/coaches raving about Stroud
• Worried Jerry has set the team up to fail with lame ducks, seems to welcome the chaos
• Impressed with way Dak has handled contract situation and himself in general. Other QBs don’t do that. Taken for granted.
• Tier 3 QBs, many of them have had huge contracts. Teams may have overspent.
• Jalen Hurts, conversation more negative now. Admire him, think wired right, but they realize he has limitations and has wrong OC with Kellen Moore who likes to pass often.

Tier 1
A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins because of him. He expertly handles pure-passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.
Mahomes, Burrow, Allen

Tier 2
A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure-passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game.
Lamar, Stafford, Herbert, Rodgers, Stroud, Dak, Goff, Hurts, Purdy, Cousins, Love

Tier 3
A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best.
Tua, Lawrence, Murray, Watson, Mayfield, Carr, G Smith, Wilson

Tier 4
A Tier 4 quarterback could be an unproven player (not enough information for voters to classify) or a veteran who ideally would not start all 17 games.
Daniel Jones and remainders

Burrow and Allen in Tier 1???

What a joke!

Those "who know" who this clown has supposedly gotten his information from are idiots.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I know a lot of people will think what I am about to say is hilarious, including yourself. I don't care. Burrow is Tony Romo on a team with a better defense. I'm not wowed by him. He's no Drew Brees or Peyton Manning. Put aside your draft bias and look at what he really is. He's a very good QB. So was Tony. If you have a trash D, you're not going to a SB.

Respectfully this may be the most incorrect statement ever written on this board. And we have crazies that still defend Dak. Let that sink in.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Yeah, I'm not going to get into drawing parallels between players, I'm just going to say I have great respect for Burrow. He is the best tight spaces passer I have ever seen. There have been plays where you couldn't even see him for the mass of humanity around him and the ball not only comes out but is pinpoint accurate. He is just a Houdini in the pocket and he has extremely quick mental processing and uncanny accuracy. He is a playmaker. Hope he gets healthy & puts it all on display.

This is from a guy who has no ties to Burrow. I am in SEC country & of course got to see what he did at LSU but didn't pay a lot of attention til late in the season. After the title, I went back & watched clips of games I didn't see and was just blown away by some of the stuff he did.

Agreed Burrow is hands down the #2 QB in the league after Mahomes.

 

[kskboys]

Respectfully this may be the most incorrect statement ever written on this board. And we have crazies that still defend Dak. Let that sink in.

Yup, that is pretty bad. It's like, I don't watch him but I don't think he's very good.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Foles also won.

Foles had balls of steel.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Dak vs bad teams: Tier 2
Dak vs good teams: Tier 3
Dak in playoffs: Tier 0

Is there such a thing as a negative tier?

 

[Flamma]

Respectfully this may be the most incorrect statement ever written on this board. And we have crazies that still defend Dak. Let that sink in.

It's just an opinion, like yours. I'd like to see Burrow on those 2011, '12, and '13 Cowboys. With historically bad defenses. How much better did Joe look than Stafford in that SB? Stafford is a Romo clone with a better arm. Joe is less reckless than they are. If you're not HOF, you're just good. All 3 QBs are good given the right situation.

 

[Hadenough]

I'd rate Dak as a Tier three QB....

Exactly! And slide Tua and Lawrence into tier 2. Move Love into tier 1.

 

[Hadenough]

Dak vs bad teams: Tier 2
Dak vs good teams: Tier 3
Dak in playoffs: Tier 0

Hahahaha so freaking true!

 

[Cowboys5217]

I know a lot of people will think what I am about to say is hilarious, including yourself. I don't care. Burrow is Tony Romo on a team with a better defense. I'm not wowed by him. He's no Drew Brees or Peyton Manning. Put aside your draft bias and look at what he really is. He's a very good QB. So was Tony. If you have a trash D, you're not going to a SB.

Burrow won a conference title game, and made it to a SB. Comparing him to Romo is way off. You actually have to accomplish something to be considered good, and Romo never did that despite, like Dak, stacked teams and high playoff seeds.

 

[Cowboys5217]

lol what? he absolutely has leverage, and he has already shown previously he's going to show up and play regardless. ie the end of his rookie contract playing for 2 mil without a peep.

Your clue that he has no leverage is that Jerry hasn't signed him yet. If Dak was so great, then Jerry wouldn't hesitate because he likes his guys. Dak has blown it so much that even Jerry is now looking to make Dak play out his final year on prove it basis. Jerry might cave in, but he does not have to.

There aren't any teams out there waiting to break the bank for a 31 year old QB who has never made it to a championship game even though he's had stacked rosters (12 wins 3 in a row), and high playoff seeds (both a 1 and 2 seed that resulted in one and done). If there were, then Dak would waive his no trade clause and take the money run.

 

[nate dizzle]

I know a lot of people will think what I am about to say is hilarious, including yourself. I don't care. Burrow is Tony Romo on a team with a better defense. I'm not wowed by him. He's no Drew Brees or Peyton Manning. Put aside your draft bias and look at what he really is. He's a very good QB. So was Tony. If you have a trash D, you're not going to a SB.

Awww man...no. Burrow literally carried one of the worst offensive lines I've seen to a SB, and damn near won it. Outdueling Patty Mahomes in Arrowhead to get there. Romo was a great story, but he's no Burrow. I think you may be on an island on this one.

 

[Flamma]

Burrow won a conference title game, and made it to a SB. Comparing him to Romo is way off. You actually have to accomplish something to be considered good, and Romo never did that despite, like Dak, stacked teams and high playoff seeds.

Romo had a super bowl contender twice. One of those 2 times a crap defense. I'm just not ready to put Burrow in the HOF.

 

[Creeper]

I just do not care about these rankings anymore. To me, there is Mahomes and then everyone else.

I think the media is anointing some guys like Stroud, Love, Caleb Williams too soon. Stroud and Williams may turn out to be phenoms before they finish their careers but Stroud has one year under his belt and Williams none. Let them stand the test of time. We saw Hurts anointed a couple of years ago, then we saw him last year. Big difference.

I also think winning comes from the system, from the front office to the coaching to the players. It is not one guy. Mahomes, for example, benefits from Andy Reid and his play design and play calling. Of course Mahomes is great on his own, but Reid is part of that development. Give the Chiefs credit for drafting him and letting him play his game.

It is also the little things. Drafting talented but stupid players for example. At some point that results in bad plays on the field. Great teams do most things, if not everything right.

No one player or one thing wins championships, not even the QB.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

also think winning comes from the system, from the front office to the coaching to the players. It is not one guy. Mahomes, for example, benefits from Andy Reid and his play design and play calling.

1000% .....Mahomes is a beast, but fans underestimate Andy Reid and his ability to develop QBs. Look no further than what did with a raw Donovan McNabb coming out of college. I have often said he and Shanahan are the best offensive minds in the game today and it's not even close.

 

[Proof]

Your clue that he has no leverage is that Jerry hasn't signed him yet. If Dak was so great, then Jerry wouldn't hesitate because he likes his guys. Dak has blown it so much that even Jerry is now looking to make Dak play out his final year on prove it basis. Jerry might cave in, but he does not have to.

There aren't any teams out there waiting to break the bank for a 31 year old QB who has never made it to a championship game even though he's had stacked rosters (12 wins 3 in a row), and high playoff seeds (both a 1 and 2 seed that resulted in one and done). If there were, then Dak would waive his no trade clause and take the money run.

you were saying? lol

 

[SBWinner]

I'd rate Dak as a Tier three QB....

Nah, he is better than that. Tier 2 is right, and Allen should NOT be in Tier 1. That's just man love for his measurables, not his game play.