Fan-sanity note:Dez

jterrell

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Please do not get sucked into the Dez drama that the media will push hardcore.
We need to help each other as fans stay sane.
Easiest way is keep it about football and the cap.

This is a dead period and a lot of media folks have very selfish reasons for blowing this out of proportion and constantly prodding Dez and the team to keep it topic 1.

Stay above the fray.

Legitimate facts:
Yes, Dez has over his fairly long football career had some minor off-field issues.
None of those issues crack the top 50 historically for Dallas Cowboys players.
Dallas is changing its modus operandi on contracts.
Before Anthony Spencer the franchise tag was considered largely unthinkable. But it worked and is a tool the team is aware of and has used in the recent past.
Dallas did sign Tyron Smith to a very large deal. A deal we are told the Cowboys also offered Dez.
Yes, Dez sees himself as the 2nd best WR in football and would like to be paid like it.
No, the team isn't scared of Dez's conduct. They are guaranteeing he will make 13m minimum this year as a starting point of negotiations. They are saying, no way does this guy hit free agency because he IS a franchise player. That's not fear. They have offered him a MASSVE engagement ring, they just haven't settled on a wedding date yet.
The team's last 3 highly paid WRs were TO, Miles and RW11... not a good investment there except perhaps TO if you ignore locker room divisiveness. So the team is right to ponder long-term commitments at the position.

But please ignore nonsense like a baby was locked in a car in the drive way... when there is no data about whose baby or if that person left the baby for even seconds before realizing the error and calling for help.
Ignore hearsay and nonsense. People's livelihoods depend on drawing as much attention to every nugget as is possible and let's face it, the media is a really tough gig right now. The career/job has changed for them.
There were sharks before but now the vast majority are all starving. The lightweights trying to make a name see this as an easy target. Dig at Dez's past then speculate or source team thoughts in the most alarmist way possible.

A deal with Dez will get done when it is done. The best thing any of us can do is ignore it and allow the agent and team to work on it. From a football stand point he'll be here and from a cap stand point he isn't likely to cost much less than that 13M anyways.
 

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I find it funny that these concerns about off the field stuff are just coming out during contract time. Coincidence? I think not. This is just posturing. Nothing more. Nothing less. People who dislike Dez will just make a mountain out of molehill of this to validate their dislike.
 

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Minor quibble.. The franchise tag was used on Flozell.. and I almost wanna say they put it on him twice before working out an extension both times.

Overall, I agree.
 

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I have no worries about Dez off the field or on the field. However, I would not break the bank for a WR; even one as ridiculously talented as Dez.
 

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I have no worries about Dez off the field or on the field. However, I would not break the bank for a WR; even one as ridiculously talented as Dez.

I understand your thinking but isn't this a top 5 position in the NFL especially considering longevity? I would look at the success of New England and Seattle as outliers. They're builty very uniquely.
 

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I am not concerned about a long term deal eventually being worked out. Even if they need to tag him, and then work out the long term deal prior to start of the season. Rather before, during, or after TC.
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?

There is a condition with 105.3 The Fan.....it's called....idiots with no proof.... I can send them a text claiming crap too....
It's the off season, they need TMZ stuff to keep up the ratings.
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?

Hmmmm. That is a possibility for sure.
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?

That discussion is what led me to this thread.

The spent 30 minutes speculating while offering zero REAL data.

It is the kind of rumor that passes around a high school and means absolutely nothing in all likelihood.

If Dez had an issue that would prevent a deal with other teams Dallas wouldn't have to or want to franchise him.
Any issue that would keep him off the field makes paying him 13m+ a terrible decision yet they haven't remotely considered cutting ties or making him a free agent.

If those texts were anything at all they'd be using them as sources and telling us what they said IMHO.
 

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That discussion is what led me to this thread.

The spent 30 minutes speculating while offering zero REAL data.

It is the kind of rumor that passes around a high school and means absolutely nothing in all likelihood.

If Dez had an issue that would prevent a deal with other teams Dallas wouldn't have to or want to franchise him.
Any issue that would keep him off the field makes paying him 13m+ a terrible decision yet they haven't remotely considered cutting ties or making him a free agent.


If those texts were anything at all they'd be using them as sources and telling us what they said IMHO.

Yup, would make no sense at all if he was having physical issues to not let him walk.
If it's some off field stuff than the wait and see approach would make sense.
I doubt it's any thing but if they feel he has matured enough to stay clean.
 

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I do think his lingering back issues are concerning Dallas.

Those are ticking time bombs, and unlike quarterbacks, receivers can't play with bad backs.
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?

Yes, for each issue that is public knowledge, there are usually more that are not.

There are some odds things about him.

Why does he live in Duncanville? That is a significant distance with a lot of traffic between there and Valley Ranch. It's generally not an area where you would expect Pro Athletes to live. I have to think that the Cowboys would prefer him to live near Valley Ranch.

Officially the police have been called to his current house 6 times. I don't think this is the house he lived in his first couple of years in the league. Some of these appear to be from other people that were at his house, but most people don't have the police at their house 6 times in their life and definitely not 6 times in less than 5 years.

There are a lot of rumors that he has a large number of people living with him. It is just rumors but they keep resurfacing and it seems from different sources.

There are a lot of privacy rules regarding medical and legal issues surrounding players. There are many issues that teams can't or won't release to the public.
 

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It was mentioned on 105.3 the FAN this morning that both hosts had received texts from two different people - a few months apart - that there is some sort of issue with Dez that has the Cowboys very apprehensive in giving Dez a long term, highly guaranteed contract. There was no mention of what the issue was other than you wouldn't find any hint of it on a police blotter. They also mentioned that if it got out that it would be hard for Dez to get a deal with ANY team.

I'm starting to think that there is a medical condition with Dez - back?

The back thing is always the thing that bothers me about a Dez extension. Not that I have any good reason for it. I just think he plays so hard and reminds me so much of Irvin that I have a hard time getting my head around him staying healthy for a long time.
 

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There is a condition with 105.3 The Fan.....it's called....idiots with no proof.... I can send them a text claiming crap too....
It's the off season, they need TMZ stuff to keep up the ratings.

The Fan hosts generally always suck up to local athletes and heap praise on them. Most times that there is a debatable issue in regards to a player, the Fan hosts go out of their way to defend that player.

Of the 3 local sports talk stations, they have the closest ties to the Cowboys. Broaddus, Fisher and occasionally Brad Sham call in to the station often and these guys are what I consider Cowboys Insiders. Fisher actually seems to have more inside information than Broaddus. Several of the Fan hosts spend a lot of time at Valley Ranch and several of them are now going there to watch film of draft prospects with Broaddus.

I'm not saying they never just throw some crap against the wall to see what sticks, but in general they have close ties to what goes on around the Cowboys.
 
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