Fans should know CBA rules for contract negotiations

[Bobhaze]

Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.

 

[slick325]

Thank you again, Bullet.

 

[Bobhaze]

One other thought. If the team decides tagging Parsons gives them leverage, it’s fools gold.

Elite NFL players getting tagged damages the relationship between the player and the team because it makes the player feel like they are just a product. Everyone thinks NFL players are greedy and only about the money. But it’s also about feeling respected and appreciated for their talents.

Tagging Parsons will be a huge mistake. If they won’t pay him market value, trade him. I think JJ knows he’s botched this and is clumsily trying to save face. It’s isn’t working.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But of course Jerry and Micah can talk about the parameters of the deal and agree on the big points of money, years, guaranteed dollars, etc. It still has to go through the agent, yes. But Jerry is right that the deal is between the owner and the player, not the owner and the agent. And that the agent works for the player, not vice-versa.

 

[Bobhaze]

But of course Jerry and Micah can talk about the parameters of the deal and agree on the big points of money, years, guaranteed dollars, etc. It still has to go through the agent, yes. But Jerry is right that the deal is between the owner and the player, not the owner and the agent. And that the agent works for the player, not vice-versa.

You know Choc, here’s how I see it. This is like an argument between family members who in the end need each other.

So “winning” an argument can also mean you lose a relationship. In this scenario Jerry has the money and power to get his way most of the time. But getting what you want using power is a bad way to gain respect in a relationship. If you have to use raw power to win, in essence you lose.

 

[Blackrain]

I think the relationship is already damaged and beyond the point of no return.

Right or wrong Jerry feels as though he had an agreement with Micah

Micah says he does not want to be a cowboy and he wants to be traded.

Give him his wish trade him for draft capital we can use for when we need to replace our quarterback or build our defensive line to stop the run.

Micah is not Randy White he's not Bob Lilly he's not Charles Haley he is nothing but small when it matters.
Get rid of him and the drama and get fresh young players on a rookie contracts.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I think the relationship is already damaged and beyond the point of no return.

Right or wrong Jerry feels as though he had an agreement with Micah

Micah says he does not want to be a cowboy and he wants to be traded.

Give him his wish trade him for draft capital we can use for when we need to replace our quarterback or build our defensive line to stop the run.

Micah is not Randy White he's not Bob Lilly he's not Charles Haley he is nothing but small when it matters.
Get rid of him and the drama and get fresh young players on a rookie contracts.

Will Jerry reimburse me for the cost of my new Parsons' jersey?

 

[plasticman]

One other thought. If the team decides tagging Parsons gives them leverage, it’s fools gold.

Elite NFL players getting tagged damages the relationship between the player and the team because it makes the player feel like they are just a product. Everyone thinks NFL players are greedy and only about the money. But it’s also about feeling respected and appreciated for their talents.

Tagging Parsons will be a huge mistake. If they won’t pay him market value, trade him. I think JJ knows he’s botched this and is clumsily trying to save face. It’s isn’t working.

Excellent observation.

Yes, part of Jerry Jones persona is disturbingly like that of a politician. Use deception and mis-characterized the circumstances in order to sway public opinion.

 

[BigD5]

How does Jerry continue to fool the fans with this phony soap opera? None of this is real. He has said repeatedly he wants the cowboys to be a year long soap opera. This is just part of the show. Quit falling for it

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Interesting,ly we have NOT heard from the union but then again, what is there for Parsons to grieve? He is still under contract.
I'm starting to have a hard time believing this is repairable. Just seems so personable now ..........I mean, how can you say you care about winning and team playing, such petty games with your best player? It's beyond crazy.........

 

[kskboys]

Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.

Even if the player is under contract?

 

[kskboys]

I think the relationship is already damaged and beyond the point of no return.

Right or wrong Jerry feels as though he had an agreement with Micah

Micah says he does not want to be a cowboy and he wants to be traded.

Give him his wish trade him for draft capital we can use for when we need to replace our quarterback or build our defensive line to stop the run.

Micah is not Randy White he's not Bob Lilly he's not Charles Haley he is nothing but small when it matters.
Get rid of him and the drama and get fresh young players on a rookie contracts.

He's not even in the top 10 of all time edge rushers for Dallas.

 

[Buzzbait]

I think the relationship is already damaged and beyond the point of no return.
Right or wrong Jerry feels as though he had an agreement with Micah
Micah says he does not want to be a cowboy and he wants to be traded.
Give him his wish trade him for draft capital we can use for when we need to replace our quarterback or build our defensive line to stop the run.

Micah is not Randy White he's not Bob Lilly he's not Charles Haley he is nothing but small when it matters.
Get rid of him and the drama and get fresh young players on a rookie contracts.

To me it depends on what could you get for a trade? I don't think Micah is irreplaceable, but if you replaced him with another #1 pick like Mazi, That would be a total waste of time and effort. And I don't trust Jerry and company to make a wise decision either way.

 

[KingCorcoran]

But of course Jerry and Micah can talk about the parameters of the deal and agree on the big points of money, years, guaranteed dollars, etc. It still has to go through the agent, yes. But Jerry is right that the deal is between the owner and the player, not the owner and the agent. And that the agent works for the player, not vice-versa.

Actually it’s between the NFL and the NFLPA. Not the franchise owner and the player. The owners have agreed their interests are represented collectively. The players have agreed they are represented by a union. Micah does not have a legal right to go outside the union and make a player compensation deal. Jerry Jones, and the other owners, have agreed to recognize the NFLPA as the sole legal representatives of NFL players for all employment issues.

They all know the rules. Rule #1, don’t do anything that gets you in front of a Federal Labor Board.

 

[Sydla]

Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.

Jerry knows he’s the villain here so he has to mount a campaign to try to shift blame into Parsons.

People shouldn’t fall for it. Jerry is a liar.

 

[Bobhaze]

Even if the player is under contract?

Yes. This rule applies any time a player’s contract is being negotiated. Future or current contract.

For example, an agent has to be involved in a current contract when restructuring is done. Obviously for future contracts, an agent must also be involved. A negotiated NFL player contract without a player’s certified agent involved is a violation of the NFLs collective bargaining agreement.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Jerry knows he’s the villain here so he has to mount a campaign to try to shift blame into Parsons.

People shouldn’t fall for it. Jerry is a liar.

Jerry hates being under the thumb of Goodell and the NFLPA. Hates it. It is entertaining, though. It just is.

 

[Kingofholland]

Will Jerry reimburse me for the cost of my new Parsons' jersey?

Lesson learned wait atleast until 5he 2nd contract or they make the hall of fame .

 

[CCBoy]

Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.

Federal law on contracts are always the same. Bargained for with contract delivery. That has to be applied to a written record. Player's Association is involved as far as player guarantees by contract with the NFL.

Jerry offered a valid and good deal to Parsons. Myself, I'd challenge his pride and make him own up.

 

[CCBoy]

Yes. This rule applies any time a player’s contract is being negotiated. Future or current contract.

For example, an agent has to be involved in a current contract when restructuring is done. Obviously for future contracts, an agent must also be involved. A negotiated NFL player contract without a player’s certified agent involved is a violation of the NFLs collective bargaining agreement.

The player can at any point represent himself...if he chooses.