Fasano needs a home

Macnalty

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,639
Reaction score
2,162
Impending free agent Anthony Fasano says he's been given no indication that the Dolphins want him back in 2010.
Fasano struggled badly this season, even before he was sidetracked by a hip injury in November. Miami will add tight end to its list of offseason priorities, which includes No. 1 receiver, nose tackle, inside linebacker, and free safety.
Miami Herald


This may be old news, it made me smile after thinking about all the grief the staff took for that trade.
 

MarionBarberThe4th

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,414
Reaction score
5,389
Drafting him was the bad move.

We butchered that whole Fasano/Marty situation, and if Marty wasnt so popular hed traded
 

8FOR!3

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,310
Reaction score
1,810
#1 wide receiver? I wasn't aware Miami had a legitimate #2 or #3.
 

Hoofbite

Well-Known Member
Messages
40,871
Reaction score
11,570
Macnalty;3274317 said:
Impending free agent Anthony Fasano says he's been given no indication that the Dolphins want him back in 2010.
Fasano struggled badly this season, even before he was sidetracked by a hip injury in November. Miami will add tight end to its list of offseason priorities, which includes No. 1 receiver, nose tackle, inside linebacker, and free safety.
Miami Herald


This may be old news, it made me smile after thinking about all the grief the staff took for that trade.

That trade was stupid.
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,041
Reaction score
6,920
Hoofbite;3274323 said:
That trade was stupid.

No, it wasn't. Fasano was not doing what Dallas needed out of their #2 TE and was going to be cut after the year. May as well trade him to get something in return.
 

Hoofbite

Well-Known Member
Messages
40,871
Reaction score
11,570
joseephuss;3274357 said:
No, it wasn't. Fasano was not doing what Dallas needed out of their #2 TE and was going to be cut after the year. May as well trade him to get something in return.

What was needed from the #2? Are you saying he was so horrible at blocking that the team decided to give up on him after two seasons?

And even if that was the case, why would he be cut? You can always keep a cheap contract and hope he works out to be worth his draft pick (see Bobby Carpenter).
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,041
Reaction score
6,920
Hoofbite;3274359 said:
What was needed from the #2? Are you saying he was so horrible at blocking that the team decided to give up on him after two seasons?

And even if that was the case, why would he be cut? You can always keep a cheap contract and hope he works out to be worth his draft pick (see Bobby Carpenter).

Cut actually was the wrong word. His contract was going to expire after the 2008 season. He was not going to be re-signed, so they decided to trade him before that season began.

Yes, he was not a good blocker in Dallas. His receiving were horrible. I don't expect big numbers form the #2 TE in Dallas, but I do expect more than 1 TD and 28 receptions over two years. Even Marty B has done better than that and many think he sucks. Plus the coaches said Fasano was not learning the system.

Maybe the trade was a wake up call for him or Miami was a better fit. Based on the rumblings coming out of Miami now it does not seem so. If Parcells and Miami doesn't want him then he is not a worthy tight end. He has now been in the league for 4 years and still has not done that much.

If anyone is speculating about him coming back to Dallas I doubt Fasano would want to take a demotion from being the #1 TE to going back to being the #2 or even #3 guy. No, thanks.
 

jman

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,766
Reaction score
25
I would suggest he find a real-estate agent.
 

Hoofbite

Well-Known Member
Messages
40,871
Reaction score
11,570
joseephuss;3274369 said:
Cut actually was the wrong word. His contract was going to expire after the 2008 season. He was not going to be re-signed, so they decided to trade him before that season began.

Yes, he was not a good blocker in Dallas. His receiving were horrible. I don't expect big numbers form the #2 TE in Dallas, but I do expect more than 1 TD and 28 receptions over two years. Even Marty B has done better than that and many think he sucks. Plus the coaches said Fasano was not learning the system.

Maybe the trade was a wake up call for him or Miami was a better fit. Based on the rumblings coming out of Miami now it does not seem so. If Parcells and Miami doesn't want him then he is not a worthy tight end. He has now been in the league for 4 years and still has not done that much.

If anyone is speculating about him coming back to Dallas I doubt Fasano would want to take a demotion from being the #1 TE to going back to being the #2 or even #3 guy. No, thanks.

He signed a three 3 year contract? I don't know for sure but that doesn't sound right for a 2nd round pick.

I just don't think the trade was a stellar move. I've always thought that Dallas got the short end of that stick. 2 starters for a 4th rounder. Find me a single team in the league that wouldn't jump at the opportunity of adding 2 starters for a 4th.

And then they turned around and used another 2nd rounder on a TE. I'm not going to discuss what Martellus is or could be because everyone knows he has all the potential in the world and hasn't utilized hardly any of it. I'm just talking the thought process behind upgrading the #2 TE position at that cost.

Just seems too high unless you really think that upgrading the #2 TE position would be the real difference maker for you.

I think most people would agree that 2 years is too soon to give up on a guy and that's the amount of time that Dallas gave Fasano. We all know that Fasano doesn't have the potential of Bennett. There is no question in that area but we're talking the #2 TE position.

I just don't know what any team thinks they need at that position. Looking back, it's almost like Dallas was more concerned with a #2 TE than they were with a #2 WR.

That has always been my problem with the trade. It just seemed completely unnecessary. Like an impulse purchase at the supermarket.

With that said, I do get excited when thinking about the potential of Bennett developing into the player that everyone knows he is capable of. Its hard not to but at the same time I cannot stand players who short change themselves and their teammates by not doing everything they can to reach their potential. There's a disconnect in Bennett's track somewhere and hopefully it gets fixed.

I've said it in another thread but if Dallas could get a #2 for the guy, make the deal. Pick up a UDFA and promote Phillips. Use that extra pick on a position of need. Use it to move up and secure a player that falls a little bit. Some might say that it would conflict with what I said about giving up on a player after 2 seasons but I don't consider it giving up on him. I think Bennett will be a good player in this league but he will never overtake Witten and Witten is still pretty young. Not giving up on him at all but getting value from a position that likely will not provide equal value on the field.

Sometimes you gotta make hard decisions. If you have the potential for good return at a position of excess talent, making a trade isn't the worst thing in the world. RB would be another position to look at a possible trade but I don't think anyone would take the RB who needs to be traded.
 

Chocolate Lab

Run-loving Dino
Messages
37,116
Reaction score
11,472
Two *lousy* starters for a fourth. Which we turned into Scandrick and Choice. How is that bad again? (And Fasano was a "starter" anyway?)

It's like complaining about the Anthony Henry trade: We gave up a starter for a backup! So what? The guy we replaced him with is far better.

Garrett said Fasano made too many mental errors and mistakes, so we dumped him for at least something. I think we should do more of that, not less.
 

adbutcher

K9NME
Messages
12,287
Reaction score
2,910
joseephuss;3274357 said:
No, it wasn't. Fasano was not doing what Dallas needed out of their #2 TE and was going to be cut after the year. May as well trade him to get something in return.

Cowboys 2010, 54 TE(s)....Championship.

There is a rumor that Jones is mulling over a trade of Ware for Tony Curtis, my fingers are crossed.
 

HoleInTheRoof

Benched
Messages
3,265
Reaction score
0
Chocolate Lab;3274398 said:
Two *lousy* starters for a fourth. Which we turned into Scandrick and Choice. How is that bad again? (And Fasano was a "starter" anyway?)

Said it before I could.

Fasano started for Miami when they were coming off a 1-15 year. Now that the team talent has improved and they've been competitive and are looking to get over the hump, he's no longer welcome on the team appearantly.

Another poor draft choice by Parcells.
 

Chief

"Friggin Joke Monkey"
Messages
8,543
Reaction score
4
The "Fasano needs a home" title made me :laugh2:

I picture Parcells taking him in and feeding him, taking him for walks. When asked what breed he is by a neighbor, Parcells replies, "He's an Italian tight end."
 

TellerMorrow34

BraveHeartFan
Messages
28,358
Reaction score
5,076
He'll find a spot pretty easily I'd imagine. There are plenty of teams out there who could use him at TE. I could see him in St. Louis or Cleveland or maybe even in Houston as a 2nd TE to Owen Daniels there.

He'll land somewhere.
 

trickblue

Not Old School...Old Testament...
Messages
31,439
Reaction score
3,961
Barbie and Fasano were our one-two punch in that draft...

I remember starting a thread going off on the Fasano pick after it was made......

Parcells was such a dolt when it came to "Jersey Guys" or "My ex-player's son guys"...
 

burmafrd

Well-Known Member
Messages
43,820
Reaction score
3,379
Fasano had quite a good year in 2008. Frankly I think Henne was not much for trusting him for whatever reason so the fall in production should not all be on Fasano. And remember this is all speculation from the local paper which might not be totally accurate.
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,041
Reaction score
6,920
Chocolate Lab;3274398 said:
Two *lousy* starters for a fourth. Which we turned into Scandrick and Choice. How is that bad again? (And Fasano was a "starter" anyway?)

It's like complaining about the Anthony Henry trade: We gave up a starter for a backup! So what? The guy we replaced him with is far better.

Garrett said Fasano made too many mental errors and mistakes, so we dumped him for at least something. I think we should do more of that, not less.

And Akin was going to be cut anyway. He was not going to be on the team in 2008 no matter if he was traded away or flat out released. His time had passed.
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,041
Reaction score
6,920
burmafrd;3274549 said:
Fasano had quite a good year in 2008. Frankly I think Henne was not much for trusting him for whatever reason so the fall in production should not all be on Fasano. And remember this is all speculation from the local paper which might not be totally accurate.

I disagree. His 34 receptions in 2008 is not a good year for a starting TE in the NFL unless you are the Titans. They franchise TEs with those stats. Fasano did score 7 TDs that year, which is good. It is looking like those 7 TDs were more a fluke than a true representation of what he brings to the table. He has 7 TDs in one season and 3 total in 3 other seasons.
 

burmafrd

Well-Known Member
Messages
43,820
Reaction score
3,379
BUT he had Pennington as QB last year as well. You have to factor that in as well. Pennington's arm is so weak that going to a TE is almost a deep throw for him.
 
Top