Father shot dead drunk driver moments after he crashed into truck killing

MichaelWinicki;5000574 said:
I understand the anger. And as a father I may have done the same.

BUT by doing so you greatly injure the wife and children you're leaving behind assuming you go to prison. You can't do a thing the dead boys, but the children that remain and his wife will need him and he won't be there... It will be like he's dead too.
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I don't think he'll go to prison. He has the option of a jury and many will understand.
 
MichaelWinicki;5000574 said:
I understand the anger. And as a father I may have done the same.

BUT by doing so you greatly injure the wife and children you're leaving behind assuming you go to prison. You can't do a thing the dead boys, but the children that remain and his wife will need him and he won't be there... It will be like he's dead too.
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Take into account, there mght be a great chance, the guy isnt sentenced to death, could you live with the fact, they guy got to kill someone and come out as cheap as a few years in prison KNOWING that the act he was doing can cause death?

If i was a father i dont think i could live with it. ALso it would eat me up alive that i have to pay for his life on top of that.
 
ShiningStar;5000587 said:
Take into account, there mght be a great chance, the guy isnt sentenced to death, could you live with the fact, they guy got to kill someone and come out as cheap as a few years in prison KNOWING that the act he was doing can cause death?

If i was a father i dont think i could live with it. ALso it would eat me up alive that i have to pay for his life on top of that.
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Oh as a father I agree.

I know off the top of my head several cases locally (over the last few years) where the same thing has happened– where a drunk driver kills someone's child. And yes in many cases the drunk driver hasn't gotten a long prison term.

However if we start allowing folks to simply pop a cap in a drunk driver's knot... Well I'm not sure that's a path we want to go down... because where does it stop?
 
CowboyMcCoy;5000578 said:
I don't think he'll go to prison. He has the option of a jury and many will understand.
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Yep, I'm sure that some will understand... more than understand, but avoiding prison... I don't know about that one.
 
MichaelWinicki;5000596 said:
Oh as a father I agree.

I know off the top of my head several cases locally (over the last few years) where the same thing has happened– where a drunk driver kills someone's child. And yes in many cases the drunk driver hasn't gotten a long prison term.

However if we start allowing folks to simply pop a cap in a drunk driver's knot... Well I'm not sure that's a path we want to go down... because where does it stop?
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i dont know personally, but gun laws havent stopped violence and fines havent stopped it. So neither are the answers, sorry if thats to blunt i dont try to make it sound that way.

Trust me not trying to come off that i know more. Smply getting your view point and i like the conversation.

And now that some of this is going thru my head with another persons POV, i dont even think anything i would try would be the answer. But i can say the guy gave a few people pause about getting behind the wheel.

I know this because some people have shocked me by saying they agree with me that "the innocent didnt ask for it" and that the drunk person did take a life and maybe it should be considered that their life is forfiet."

Do i hav ethe answer that will work, no, can i judge this guy, definetly not. Can we allow it to go on, possibly not, but there is something said for vigiliatnism and possibly the threat of it will deter some of the results.
 
Premeditated versus Temporary Insanity. His kids were just killed. I think I might lose my mind too.
 
This would be the problem I'd have as a juror.

Did he do it? Yes or No

If the answer is Yes, often there is a mandatory sentence.

That would give me an incentive to privately say "Yes he did it", but rule "No" because I don't agree with the minimum mandatory sentence.

Know what I mean?
 
MichaelWinicki;5000602 said:
Yep, I'm sure that some will understand... more than understand, but avoiding prison... I don't know about that one.
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Just curious. If he did what he did, which it seems pretty hard to kick this rap, then he's guilty. The question is, how much do you punish him? He already paid the ultimate price.
 
BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5000634 said:
This would be the problem I'd have as a juror.

Did he do it? Yes or No

If the answer is Yes, often there is a mandatory sentence.

That would give me an incentive to privately say "Yes he did it", but rule "No" because I don't agree with the minimum mandatory sentence.

Know what I mean?
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2-5 years of probation. That's all I got for you. Naw'm sayin'?
 
MichaelWinicki;5000596 said:
Oh as a father I agree.

I know off the top of my head several cases locally (over the last few years) where the same thing has happened– where a drunk driver kills someone's child. And yes in many cases the drunk driver hasn't gotten a long prison term.

However if we start allowing folks to simply pop a cap in a drunk driver's knot... Well I'm not sure that's a path we want to go down... because where does it stop?
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Where does it stop? I would say it stops when the number of habitual drunk drivers are killed off to zero. I am joking, but I know several drunk drivers from my area have been involved in accidents that resulted in deaths. Very, very few have ever served any time. I.have lost family members from drunk driving. It is hard to see a murderer go free.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;5000471 said:
If you don't like the laws, lobby to change them, don't usurp them.
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Our society sees true justice as too harsh. An "eye for an eye" is not appreciated in today's justice system and there are only a few that appreciate the simple concept.
 
Sadly, this is the third thread on DUI since Thanksgiving. :(

Everybody remembers some of us wanted to throw the book at Josh Brent.

For some reason in America, drunks get back on the road again and again and kill thousands every year....Texas is more lenient.

Some may take offence, but I take a semi-blind eye to this father's rage because thousands of drunks get the blind eye doing their roadkill.
 
Wonder how this might be perceived if the guy that was murdered actually caused the accident due to a medical event (e.g. stroke). BAC 0.00, slurred speech, and generally brain-impaired.

Is it alright to murder that driver because he appears drunk?
 
^He was just charged for events that took place two months ago.

My question is did it matter that the driver was drunk? The man just lost his kids in a horrific manner and he could've wanted revenge regardless of the circumstances. The driver being drunk could've been the final straw also, but who knows...
 
CowboyMcCoy;5000578 said:
I don't think he'll go to prison. He has the option of a jury and many will understand.
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I would hope a jury would realize that the law is the law and it can't just let premeditated murderers if it is shown he committed premeditated murder go
 
jnday;5000677 said:
Our society sees true justice as too harsh. An "eye for an eye" is not appreciated in today's justice system and there are only a few that appreciate the simple concept.
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Do you want a system like Saudi Arabia, Iran etc?
 
What he did was wrong, but I don't think he cares. His two sons - likely his world - are dead. What can jail do to him, or even a death sentence - which I doubt he'll get.

This is just a horrible, horrible situation all around. Why do people continue to get behind the wheel drunk? :( :banghead:
 
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