Felix Jones and Bo Jackson

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Not only did Jones match a feat of Jackson's last night, there are a couple other notes on the two that most don't know.

Jones fell 14 carries shy of the SEC minimum of 400 carries for the Career YPC list. Had Jones gained zero yards for 14 more carries, he would still surpass Bo's SEC Career leading 6.6 by a FULL YARD, at 7.6 YPC.

Jones is the SEC Single Season YPC leader at 8.7 YPC on 133 carries, Jackson's best season was 7.6 on 158 carries.
 

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pandalanding;2978275 said:
Not only did Jones match a feat of Jackson's last night, there are a couple other notes on the two that most don't know.

Jones fell 14 carries shy of the SEC minimum of 400 carries for the Career YPC list. Had Jones gained zero yards for 14 more carries, he would still surpass Bo's SEC Career leading 6.6 by a FULL YARD, at 7.6 YPC.

Jones is the SEC Single Season YPC leader at 8.7 YPC on 133 carries, Jackson's best season was 7.6 on 158 carries.
He's also on pace to match Jackson in the injury department.
 

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Jones is a very good back but he's no Bo Jackson. I know the stats are nice and all but Bo was not like any player I've ever seen. Seriously.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2978292 said:
Jones is a very good back but he's no Bo Jackson. I know the stats are nice and all but Bo was not like any player I've ever seen. Seriously.

Especially when he got to play against the Bengals.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2978292 said:
Jones is a very good back but he's no Bo Jackson. I know the stats are nice and all but Bo was not like any player I've ever seen. Seriously.

Ditto...There may never be a back like Bo again but comparing Felix to Bo in any context is absurd, IMHO...Go back and watch highlight vids, Bo is in a class by himself
 

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MrMom;2978315 said:
Man, was he incredible.

Rare combination of size and speed. Earl Campbell possessed both as well. Amazing to see big men run that fast
 

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Are people really talking about Bo Jackson as if he was all that? The guy was a freak for a very short time. He never played a full season, never scored more than 6 TDs in a season, never rushed for 1000 yards, and was gone after 4 years.

Yes he had some big runs at times but he was anything but a football god folks. An athletic freak to be sure but those kind don't last very long and he proved it. Gale Sayers was all that and more but he didn't last long either.

Felix Jones is VERY comparable to Bo Jackson. He is averaging 9.4 yards per carry so far in his career! That's 4 yards per carry more than Bo did.

Granted that is in only one fourth the number of games (9 as opposed to 38) but then Bo doesn't compare with Jim Brown, who averaged 5.64 yards per carry over his LAST 3 seasons (42 games).

Bo Jackson was an athletic freak who had a some big runs, nothing more. He wasn't even an every down back.
 

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THUMPER;2978419 said:
Are people really talking about Bo Jackson as if he was all that? The guy was a freak for a very short time. He never played a full season, never scored more than 6 TDs in a season, never rushed for 1000 yards, and was gone after 4 years.

Yes he had some big runs at times but he was anything but a football god folks. An athletic freak to be sure but those kind don't last very long and he proved it. Gale Sayers was all that and more but he didn't last long either.

Felix Jones is VERY comparable to Bo Jackson. He is averaging 9.4 yards per carry so far in his career! That's 4 yards per carry more than Bo did.

Granted that is in only one fourth the number of games (9 as opposed to 38) but then Bo doesn't compare with Jim Brown, who averaged 5.64 yards per carry over his LAST 3 seasons (42 games).

Bo Jackson was an athletic freak who had a some big runs, nothing more. He wasn't even an every down back.


That's true but Bo Jackson was never in camp with Oakland. He played MLB for K.C. at the same time he played Football for Oakland. Essentially, Bo only played half a season of Football every year he played. Had was incredible. Who knows what he could have done with a complete training camp and a full season of games. The fact that he only played 4 years is a tragedy. Very freak injury but it is what it is. I don't see Jones as comparable at all. Jones is more comparable to ****erson in running style IMO. He is not Bo. Bo ran with much more power and was faster IMO.

Gail Sayers was a great back as well but he was no Bo either. Sayers was much more ellusive then either Bo or Jones but he did not have the Power Bo did. Brown is probably the closest comparision to Bo but I never saw Jim Brown play personally so I could be wrong there.

I've never seen anything like Bo in my life time. Had he focused on the NFL, who can say what he could have done. He didn't. He elected to play Baseball because that was his first love. He only agreed to play football because Oakland and Nike offered him a pile of money to do so.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2978651 said:
That's true but Bo Jackson was never in camp with Oakland. He played MLB for K.C. at the same time he played Football for Oakland. Essentially, Bo only played half a season of Football every year he played. Had was incredible. Who knows what he could have done with a complete training camp and a full season of games. The fact that he only played 4 years is a tragedy. Very freak injury but it is what it is. I don't see Jones as comparable at all. Jones is more comparable to ****erson in running style IMO. He is not Bo. Bo ran with much more power and was faster IMO.

Gail Sayers was a great back as well but he was no Bo either. Sayers was much more ellusive then either Bo or Jones but he did not have the Power Bo did. Brown is probably the closest comparision to Bo but I never saw Jim Brown play personally so I could be wrong there.

I've never seen anything like Bo in my life time. Had he focused on the NFL, who can say what he could have done. He didn't. He elected to play Baseball because that was his first love. He only agreed to play football because Oakland and Nike offered him a pile of money to do so.

My point is that Bo was never, and was never going to be, an every down RB. He only had one 100-yard+ game where he didn't have a run of 50 yards or more. He was a homerun hitter but not a guy who would get tough yards or could sustain a consistent running game.

The best comparison is Barry Sanders, although I don't remember Bo having as many runs for negative yards as Barry (no one did). But he didn't last as long as Barry did either.

I guess, when I look at great RBs I don't consider Bo Jackson because he wasn't really a RB in the sense of an Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, etc.

We'll never know what kind of football player he might have been if he had focused solely on the NFL and not split his time with "America's Pastime". In most of the games he played he was nothing special, it was only his big runs that people remember, all 10 of them. :rolleyes:

That's right, in 4 years he had 10 big runs (30 yards or more) on 515 carries. He had none in 1988. On 136 carries he had none that went for more than 25 yards that year. He gained 580 yards on 136 carries for a 4.3 yard average.

In 1989 he had 5 big runs, scoring on 2 of them. That was his best season when he gained 950 yards on 173 carries.

If you look at his game logs they are pretty pedestrian for the most part except for the occasional big run sprinkled in here and there. He had a lot of games where he only got 40 yards rushing and averaged 4 yards per carry or so but in the "SportsCenter" age of highlight clips he became a legend.
 

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One of the greatest plays in NFL history is when Bo ran over the hype known as the Boz.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2978292 said:
Jones is a very good back but he's no Bo Jackson. I know the stats are nice and all but Bo was not like any player I've ever seen. Seriously.

Had Bo Jackson devoted his career only to football and had he not had the degenerative hip problem he would have ran for over 20,000 yards in his career without a doubt. I know, IF, If If.

I'm just worried we are going to be saying the same thing about Felix 20 years from now.
 

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THUMPER;2978759 said:
My point is that Bo was never, and was never going to be, an every down RB. He only had one 100-yard+ game where he didn't have a run of 50 yards or more. He was a homerun hitter but not a guy who would get tough yards or could sustain a consistent running game.

The best comparison is Barry Sanders, although I don't remember Bo having as many runs for negative yards as Barry (no one did). But he didn't last as long as Barry did either.

I guess, when I look at great RBs I don't consider Bo Jackson because he wasn't really a RB in the sense of an Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, etc.

We'll never know what kind of football player he might have been if he had focused solely on the NFL and not split his time with "America's Pastime". In most of the games he played he was nothing special, it was only his big runs that people remember, all 10 of them. :rolleyes:

That's right, in 4 years he had 10 big runs (30 yards or more) on 515 carries. He had none in 1988. On 136 carries he had none that went for more than 25 yards that year. He gained 580 yards on 136 carries for a 4.3 yard average.

In 1989 he had 5 big runs, scoring on 2 of them. That was his best season when he gained 950 yards on 173 carries.

If you look at his game logs they are pretty pedestrian for the most part except for the occasional big run sprinkled in here and there. He had a lot of games where he only got 40 yards rushing and averaged 4 yards per carry or so but in the "SportsCenter" age of highlight clips he became a legend.

I will agree with you on two things here. One, I don't consider Bo one of the greats either. He didn't put in the time needed to do that IMO. However, that does not mean that I was not in awe of him. Had he been a 25 carry back, I can't imagine what he could have accomplished. He averaged 13.5 carries a game. 75 yards rushing per game for 5.4 YPC. That's not bad at all for a guy who basically played part time. I mean, it's not as if he played for a very good team either. Of the 4 years Bo played for the Raiders, they only had one good season and that was the season he was injured. I mean, I understand what you are saying. If you compare the two backs, from a statistical point of view, they are comparable. What I am saying is that Jones is no Bo. Bo was another level IMO and if you consider the fact that he did what he did with no real training involved, it makes it that much more awsome in my view.
 

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THUMPER;2978419 said:
Are people really talking about Bo Jackson as if he was all that? The guy was a freak for a very short time. He never played a full season, never scored more than 6 TDs in a season, never rushed for 1000 yards, and was gone after 4 years.

Yes he had some big runs at times but he was anything but a football god folks. An athletic freak to be sure but those kind don't last very long and he proved it. Gale Sayers was all that and more but he didn't last long either.

Felix Jones is VERY comparable to Bo Jackson. He is averaging 9.4 yards per carry so far in his career! That's 4 yards per carry more than Bo did.

Granted that is in only one fourth the number of games (9 as opposed to 38) but then Bo doesn't compare with Jim Brown, who averaged 5.64 yards per carry over his LAST 3 seasons (42 games).

Bo Jackson was an athletic freak who had a some big runs, nothing more. He wasn't even an every down back.

I pretty much agree. While electrfying when running over famous busts like Bosworth, he wasn't nearly the legend many make him out to be. Lots of guys are above Bo Jackson on the totem pole. Two former Cowboys legendary runners are certainly ahead of Bo Jackson.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2978792 said:
I will agree with you on two things here. One, I don't consider Bo one of the greats either. He didn't put in the time needed to do that IMO. However, that does not mean that I was not in awe of him. Had he been a 25 carry back, I can't imagine what he could have accomplished. He averaged 13.5 carries a game. 75 yards rushing per game for 5.4 YPC. That's not bad at all for a guy who basically played part time. I mean, it's not as if he played for a very good team either. Of the 4 years Bo played for the Raiders, they only had one good season and that was the season he was injured. I mean, I understand what you are saying. If you compare the two backs, from a statistical point of view, they are comparable. What I am saying is that Jones is no Bo. Bo was another level IMO and if you consider the fact that he did what he did with no real training involved, it makes it that much more awsome in my view.

That's cool.
 
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