Felix Jones and Chris johnson highlights

[TheCount]

I need to rewatch the game and my memory is pretty fuzzy since I was at a party that night and wasn't paying as much attention as I usually would, but how did Felix do when going up the middle?

 

[FCBarca]

I can understand why some would be wary of someone with surreal speed...the tendency is to think "track guy" or "workout wonder" becasue there have been many like that in the past. But this dude looks like a football player....as does Felix, by the way.

Some forget that 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40 is huge if it translates on the field...easier to think of a fairly slow 4.65 guy vs very fast 4.45....than outrageous 4.24 vs 4.44...but it is still the same separation. One hits a crease and the saftey can get and angle and make a play, the other...no chance of catching him.

All u gotta do is watch that highlight of CJ and you see game changing speed, whether it's 2/10s faster or whatever...Everyone else seemed to be going in slow motion...Been a long time since we've seen that kind of speed on display

 

[DFWJC]

I need to rewatch the game and my memory is pretty fuzzy since I was at a party that night and wasn't paying as much attention as I usually would, but how did Felix do when going up the middle?

I'd have to check the tivo, but I think he had one decent carry inside--recall that he only had a few carries...maybe 7 or so.

 

[FCBarca]

The catch and run by Felix came later in the game but he did cut inside although further down the field.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I can understand why some would be wary of someone with surreal speed...the tendency is to think "track guy" or "workout wonder" becasue there have been many like that in the past. But this dude looks like a football player....as does Felix, by the way.

Some forget that 2 tenths of a second faster in the 40 is huge if it translates on the field...easier to think of a fairly slow 4.65 guy vs very fast 4.45....than outrageous 4.24 vs 4.44...but it is still the same separation. One hits a crease and the saftey can get and angle and make a play, the other...no chance of catching him.

the safety on the rams ran a 4.33 40 or something along those lines.

 

[cowboys2233]

the safety on the rams ran a 4.33 40 or something along those lines.

Chris Johnson = Willie Parker

Felix Jones = Brian Westbrook

That basically sums it up for me. As he showed in the SB, a Willie Parker or Chris Johnson can be a really dangerous kind of running back, give him an inch and he's going to house it. But overall, Felix has a lot more wiggle and will be a better overall back, just as Westbrook is to Parker.

 

[DFWJC]

Chris Johnson = Willie Parker

Felix Jones = Brian Westbrook

That basically sums it up for me. As he showed in the SB, a Willie Parker or Chris Johnson can be a really dangerous kind of running back, give him an inch and he's going to house it. But overall, Felix has a lot more wiggle and will be a better overall back, just as Westbrook is to Parker.

If that happened then both teams would obviously be delighted. Big if though. Coming out of college, CJ's pass catching ability was much more highly rated, but Felix hadn't been thrown to much at Ark. Fans of both teams can dream, I guess...that's what pre-season is all about.

 

[cowboys2233]

If that happened then both teams would obviously be delighted. Big if though. Coming out of college, CJ's pass catching ability was much more highly rated, but Felix hadn't been thrown to much at Ark. Fans of both teams can dream, I guess...that's what pre-season is all about.

I rated Johnson pretty highly coming out of college. More so than guys like Ray Rice, who is also turning heads. Who knows? This could be one of the better draft classes RB-wise in a long time. I'm ecstatic by what I see from Felix though, I think we hit big time.

More than enough to compensate for Martellus "I have big gums" Bennett. :laugh2:

 

[cowboyz]

http://albums.phanfare.com/4892322/2159328_2650651#imageID=41988507

slow mo end zone view of CJ's run. pretty impressive

of course not sure what #42 OLB is doing running straight up field

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Chris Johnson = Willie Parker

Felix Jones = Brian Westbrook

That basically sums it up for me. As he showed in the SB, a Willie Parker or Chris Johnson can be a really dangerous kind of running back, give him an inch and he's going to house it. But overall, Felix has a lot more wiggle and will be a better overall back, just as Westbrook is to Parker.

Well that's not a bad thing all though CJ is a very good receiver out of the backfield a lot better than Jones is I don't even think it's close in comparison. W.e. this wiggle is I still see CJ being a better back because of his receiving ability. I think it may be the other way around though.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

http://albums.phanfare.com/4892322/2159328_2650651#imageID=41988507

slow mo end zone view of CJ's run. pretty impressive

of course not sure what #42 OLB is doing running straight up field

I think the line backer is supposed to hold contain and make sure nothing goes back to his side while he was shooting one of the gaps.

The slow move is pretty nice it looks more than just a straight line like some people were saying.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

what I find funny is that run is similar to the one Ryan Grant gashed us w/

and theo is all over his sack

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well not much to see here, they both did exactly what is thought of them anyway.

With CJ, people try to dog him and say he is just speed, but really they are downplaying how much speed we are really talking about with him. He has rare blazing speed, and that is just rare and scary from the RB position. The real question for him will be if he has the vision and patience to use that speed when he needs to.

Felix will look good in space with his vision and quickness, always will. When he doesn't have this space will be his test, cause you will see him decleated alot this season as that is something that just seems to happen to him.

With both of them the defense has to worry about if they can get their hands on them, but for different reasons. Problem I have with both of them is once the D gets their hands on them, what these 2 do then.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

what I find funny is that run is similar to the one Ryan Grant gashed us w/

and theo is all over his sack

 

[theogt]

what I find funny is that run is similar to the one Ryan Grant gashed us w/

and theo is all over his sack

That's funny why? Did I form my opinion all based on that one run? Did I even say that run was impressive?

In fact, Grant's run was the direct result of poor defensive play and, if I remember correctly, good play by their fullback. His actual run wasn't impressive at all. Not to mention I formed my opinion on him before that game.

You don't actually think these things through before you post them do you?

PS, have you failed out of community college yet?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

PS, have you failed out of community college yet?

theogt v Bob

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[28 Joker]

Well not much to see here, they both did exactly what is thought of them anyway.

With CJ, people try to dog him and say he is just speed, but really they are downplaying how much speed we are really talking about with him. He has rare blazing speed, and that is just rare and scary from the RB position. The real question for him will be if he has the vision and patience to use that speed when he needs to.

Felix will look good in space with his vision and quickness, always will. When he doesn't have this space will be his test, cause you will see him decleated alot this season as that is something that just seems to happen to him.

With both of them the defense has to worry about if they can get their hands on them, but for different reasons. Problem I have with both of them is once the D gets their hands on them, what these 2 do then.

Have you really watched Felix Jones play? I've seen him play many times during the last three years, and that just isn't a fact. Did you see him run the football right up the gut and move the pile for 5 tough yards on Saturday? I didn't see much space on that play. Our line had a little push, and Felix stuck it up in there and used his power. Anyone who has really watched Arkansas' games knows that Felix Jones has power in his game. He runs the ball inside, and he is tough. He will lower his pads and pick up some extra yardage when he is getting tackled. We saw this on both his big plays in the preseason.

In 2007, Felix averaged 8.7 YPC in the SEC. Furthermore, only three RBs in NCAA history have averaged over 7.0 YPC (with a minimum of 350 carries) for their career. Felix Jones' 7.7 YPC (his three year average) is second only to Glen Davis' 8.26 (1943-1946). You don't put up those numbers if you get decleated every time your in tight space. In fact, it is just the opposite.

It is Felix Jones' ability to get out of tight space and make people miss that differentiates him from other running backs, including McFadden. McFadden was the guy taking the hits while Felix Jones avoided the hits and racked up extra yardage and saved his body. McFadden looked to hit people at the second level if they were in his way. Felix made them miss. This idea that he "must have space" to be effective is false. Yes, you want to give him space, just like any running back. However, he can get out of tight places. We all saw it in the Chargers game on those two plays.

Felix can make a move on the linebacker and set the safety up at the same time. His vision and instincts allow him to see the linebacker and safety at the same time. This guy is a high character guy who has a ton of heart, and he wants to win bad. He would want in the games when things were going down hill for Arkansas if he wasn't in the game.

As far as Chris Johnson goes, several teams gave him a first round grade. He is really fast, but it isn't "us" just saying he was more of a straight-line guy coming out of East Carolina, without much wiggle or elusiveness, it was NFL scouts and GMs saying this. That doesn't mean he isn't any good or can't play. He is going to help the Titans this year. The thing the Titans have to be concerned about is Johnson trying to be Marion Barber when he gets to the second level. If he tries to run over linebackers and safeties in the NFL like he did at ECU, he could get hurt. He had a neck injury, and some teams red flagged him.

The Titans wanted Felix Jones. They would have drafted him for sure, but Dallas wanted him bad and knew this. They took Felix over Mike Jenkins. That should tell you all you need to know about how much Dallas liked Felix Jones. The Titans were worried Dallas would take Felix, and their fears came true on draft day.

Jerry put it on the Titans when he took Pacman for a 4th rounder, got the 4th rounder back, and took the player they wanted at number 22. It was revenge for the Joey Galloway trade. The former Seattle GM works for the Titans.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's funny why? Did I form my opinion all based on that one run? Did I even say that run was impressive?

In fact, Grant's run was the direct result of poor defensive play and, if I remember correctly, good play by their fullback. His actual run wasn't impressive at all. Not to mention I formed my opinion on him before that game.

You don't actually think these things through before you post them do you?

PS, have you failed out of community college yet?

Hey since youre on the track on insulting people based on their personal lives lets talk about your drinking problem, alcoholic. Why don't you go get roasted with your girlfriend and go for a joy ride or entertain us with your drunking ramblings again.

You don't know what youre talking about and are so interested in being right you couldnt see a train if it was coming straight at you. First of all he showed patience on that run setting up his blocks by staying on the hip of the right guard. He makes a cut and gets to the left shoulder of the center and absolutely explodes through the hole. The dlinemen is unable to deal with that explosion and CJ runs through his attempt to trip him up. He runs straight at the free safety at that point and 15 yards down field he makes another cut where he goes from the left flag to the right flag. He never loses a step.

You can use the words 'slight' or babble about straightline speed all you want but really all you are is a moron with a agenda. How about you tell us more about Amendola's 3-cone time or how Schmitt runs a 4.5 40.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Hey since youre on the track on insulting people based on their personal lives lets talk about your drinking problem, alcoholic. Why don't you go get roasted with your girlfriend and go for a joy ride or entertain us with your drunking ramblings again.

You don't know what youre talking about and are so interested in being right you couldnt see a train if it was coming straight at you. First of all he showed patience on that run setting up his blocks by staying on the hip of the right guard. He makes a cut and gets to the left shoulder of the center and absolutely explodes through the hole. The dlinemen is unable to deal with that explosion and CJ runs through his attempt to trip him up. He runs straight at the free safety at that point and 15 yards down field he makes another cut where he goes from the left flag to the right flag. He never loses a step.

You can use the words 'slight' or babble about straightline speed all you want but really all you are is a moron with a agenda. How about you tell us more about Amendola's 3-cone time or how Schmitt runs a 4.5 40.

OMG theogt just got owned badly damnnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[superpunk]

Is this still going on?

He broke one feeble tackle and then outran everyone to the end zone. Wonderful. He's got tremendous speed, I think everyone knows that already.