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TellerMorrow34

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No surprises here. I figured the Vikes would be in, obviously Miami cause of Bill drafting him, and I guess the Chiefs are a small surprise but really not that much of one.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2179830 said:
No surprises here. I figured the Vikes would be in, obviously Miami cause of Bill drafting him, and I guess the Chiefs are a small surprise but really not that much of one.
Herm coached him.
 

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AbeBeta;2179851 said:
Wow, that's sounding positively Hensonian.
This isn't what I was talking about, but it's telling when you combine it with the drafting of Henne, Free Agent signing of McCown and now interest in Pennington.

Posted on February 2, 2008.
What Bill Parcells is telling his peeps


PHOENIX -- Super Bowl week is a great time for meeting and greeting and I have been blessed to bump into several respected NFL people this week that invariably start talking about Bill Parcells.

Miami's football czar is trying to play Houdini -- not talking to guys like me about Dolphins issues and acting like he has nothing to do with what's going on with the Dolphins -- but the entire NFL knows this rebuilding job isn't Jeff Ireland's or Tony Sparano's but, rather, belongs to Bill Parcells.

A couple of men have told me they talk to Parcells at least once, sometimes twice every couple of weeks and this is the message he's giving them: "You know he always plays poor man," said one longtime NFL man. "He's always moaning about his teams. But the difference lately is you really believe him because of the situation with the Dolphins."

So Parcells is telling folks the Dolphins are bad. That is not a revelation. But this is:

"I talked to him a week or two ago and he was telling me he has only three or four players down there," another NFL legend said. "He believes he's got a punter [Brandon Fields], he's got a center [Samson Satele], he's got Ted Ginn, and maybe he's got a running back if Ronnie Brown gets back to being the guy he was early last year. But even Brown he's not really counting on."

Is that it? No Jason Taylor, no Zach Thomas, no John Beck, no Yeremiah Bell, no Vernon Carey, no Paul Soliai, no Channing Crowder nor Joey Porter?

"Nope," the man said. "That's it. He doesn't mention those other guys."

Understand I am not telling you these men's names because that would be bad for all of us. If I identify them, Parcells won't tell them anything anymore, then they won't have anything to tell me, and I won't be telling you.

But I believe this is interesting insight into several things:

First, Parcells now has a complete grasp of how desperate and dire the situation is in Miami. Nick Saban didn't come to grips with that until his second season in Miami, which I believe is one of several reasons he bugged out. Sure, his wife didn't like South Florida and he didn't enjoy coaching professionals as much as college players. But if Saban had looked around and seen a rosy future for his Dolphins, a light at the end of the tunnel, I think he would have stuck it out.

Parcells is seeing already exactly how dark that Dolphins tunnel.

Secondly, Parcells is obviously not counting on vets such as Taylor, Thomas or even the 31-year-old Porter as being part of the Dolphins when, and if, they become a good team again.

Finally, the comments tell me Parcells thinks the past regime did OK in acquiring Ginn and Satele and, amazingly, even Fields. But he apparently wasn't encouraged by what he saw out of Beck, which I guess is understandable.

And that tells me the Dolphins will be quarterback shopping bigtime this offseason.
 

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jobberone;2179872 said:
Figured it came from personal communication. Same thing with Henry???
No sir, that's just me trying to look ahead.
 

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My money is on Miami. He has a good chance to start, is a Parcells pick and has to look fondly at the week 17 matchup vs Jets, which gives him plenty of time to prepare.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to Pennington coming here. But if you were him would you come here? He believes he's a starter. Haven't talked to him but I'd bet huge on that. He'll go where he can see a starting job now or very soon and at the least be able to compete for the job.
 

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Hostile;2179716 said:
I'm rooting for Parcells to get him. I don't care who they get rid of, Beck or McCown, I'd take either over Simms as the 3rd QB and eventual replacement for Brad.

I agree.

I've always liked McCown. He had some nice moments with the Cardinals. I'd be interested to see what he could do with a better than mediocre team.
 

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ZeroClub;2180139 said:
I agree.

I've always liked McCown. He had some nice moments with the Cardinals. I'd be interested to see what he could do with a better than mediocre team.

Wrong McCown. Josh McCown plays for the Dolphins now. He was drafted by the Cards...

LUKE MCown plays for the Bucs... he was drafted by Cleveland.

And you are right... Josh McCown is a tough SOB and I like him in a backup role...
 

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ZeroClub;2180139 said:
I agree.

I've always liked McCown. He had some nice moments with the Cardinals. I'd be interested to see what he could do with a better than mediocre team.

trickblue;2180142 said:
Wrong McCown. Josh McCown plays for the Dolphins now. He was drafted by the Cards...

LUKE MCown plays for the Bucs... he was drafted by Cleveland.

And you are right... Josh McCown is a tough SOB and I like him in a backup role...
I think you misread him. He is talking about Josh McCown.
 

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I would be pleased as peaches if we were able to get Beck over here.
 

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trickblue;2180142 said:
Wrong McCown. Josh McCown plays for the Dolphins now. He was drafted by the Cards...

LUKE MCown plays for the Bucs... he was drafted by Cleveland.

And you are right... Josh McCown is a tough SOB and I like him in a backup role...

Hostile;2180177 said:
I think you misread him. He is talking about Josh McCown.

Yep... I got it my own self backasswards... :bang2:
 

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dallasfaniac;2180115 said:
My money is on Miami. He has a good chance to start, is a Parcells pick and has to look fondly at the week 17 matchup vs Jets, which gives him plenty of time to prepare.


My money is on Minnesota. He has a good chance to start, has a good offensive line in front of him (which he would NOT have in Miami), and gives him a real shot to play for something worthwhile, namely, a playoff spot.

Miami's got nice weather and all and he is a Parcells guy, who knows? It's just that he'll never survive down there long enough to sniff the playoffs again in his career.
 

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cowboys2233;2180236 said:
My money is on Minnesota. He has a good chance to start, has a good offensive line in front of him (which he would NOT have in Miami), and gives him a real shot to play for something worthwhile, namely, a playoff spot.

Miami's got nice weather and all and he is a Parcells guy, who knows? It's just that he'll never survive down there long enough to sniff the playoffs again in his career.

Expectations would be less at Miami. Parcells' clubs get significantly better after a couple years and Sporano should get more credit than he did in Dallas. Childress is an idiot and makes questionable at best calls. ;)
 

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Does Pennington have the right to choose, or does he have to go to the worst team that wants him?
 
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