Fire Eberflus, Please

[Pass2Run]

This scheme will not work without a complete overhaul. It's the wrong scheme.

Your players aren't suited for it. You don't have any above average pass rushers outside of Ezeiruaku, which makes it difficult on the banged up secondary who can't cover in the first place.

With all the injuries there, any decent coordinator would draw up blitzes and mix up the coverage.

Yet tweedle dum just keeps running the same scheme rushing 4 guys who can't rush the passer and putting pressure on a secondary that cannot cover, especially in zone.

Do the deed, Jerry.

Or you're a stubborn, old fool.

The time was 6 weeks ago.

 

[blueblood70]

This scheme will not work without a complete overhaul. It's the wrong scheme.

Your players aren't suited for it. You don't have any above average pass rushers outside of Ezeiruaku, which makes it difficult on the banged up secondary who can't cover in the first place.

With all the injuries there, any decent coordinator would draw up blitzes and mix up the coverage.

Yet tweedle dum just keeps running the same scheme rushing 4 guys who can't rush the passer and putting pressure on a secondary that cannot cover, especially in zone.

Do the deed, Jerry.

Or you're a stubborn, old fool.

The time was 6 weeks ago.

Show me an example just in the last five years ,if not 10 years that any 1st year defensive coordinator was fired after eight games, because you're pointing out that it's Jerry, show me the rest of the NFL who are willing to fire a brand new coach in the middle of the season for no reason other than it's not working??

you know IF he didn't get arrested or do something illegal or detrimental to the team, you know outside the team, you know what I'm talking about, i'm not even going to go there ,but it would have to be something really bad.

Some coaches have been fired mid-season but this typically after three years of mediocrity and then they can't deal with it anymore because they realize mid-season it's not working, they did it with Wade Phillips here, but it doesn't happen very often, if not at all show me another team who after hiring a brand new coaching staff including a new defensive coordinator that has literally turned around after eight games and fired that person..

So, before you call Jerry a stubborn old fool you might want to have some examples of how other teams are willing to do that and how is it really helping other than Making fans feel better?

I mean we realize that he's inconsistent in running a lot of man and pressure exotic fronts you know blitzes stunts twists but maybe they need to force him to do it threaten his job and see if he'll do it but we have seen him do it the second half of the Eagles game the Jets game the Washington game,

I do not understand how he keeps reverting back to this prevent style cover 3 and zone type defenses that are not working, I get it ,I get the frustration, but I believe they're going to give him a chance to fix it ,up until the bye week and then they'll have some talks ,but I don't know of any other team that's ever fired a 1st year coach/coordinator over performance only issues..

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This scheme will not work without a complete overhaul. It's the wrong scheme.

Your players aren't suited for it. You don't have any above average pass rushers outside of Ezeiruaku, which makes it difficult on the banged up secondary who can't cover in the first place.

With all the injuries there, any decent coordinator would draw up blitzes and mix up the coverage.

Yet tweedle dum just keeps running the same scheme rushing 4 guys who can't rush the passer and putting pressure on a secondary that cannot cover, especially in zone.

Do the deed, Jerry.

Or you're a stubborn, old fool.

The time was 6 weeks ago.

You had this a 6-2 defense, bro.

Stay wrong.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Fire Eberflus, Please

We are at 3 DC's in 3 years. That would make it 4 in 4 years.

Considering the injuries, bad players and players that don't fit his system, I'm not sure what we can make of him yet.

 

[Ironicalicon]

I highly doubt it happens during the season and it's at least somewhat likely he is not fired in the off-season.

 

[blueblood70]

We are at 3 DC's in 3 years. That make it 4 in 4 years.

Considering the injuries, bad players and players that don't fit his system, I'm not sure what we can make of him yet.

Yeah, the one thing we do know is his Inconsistencies with what defense to use...

if he doesn't have the right players then stop changing the defense every week,​

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I don't want to hear about game plans and the opponents, they're all doing the same thing to this defense ...​

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why is it that you can be ultra aggressive against Washington, play better in the second half against Philadelphia, and for 3/4 dominate the Jets, and I realize their differences in the teams and when we face them, but why not just run that kind of aggressive defense the rest of the year no matter what,​

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bring five guys onto the line, bring the safeties and linebackers it closer to the line of scrimmage, and do what you did against Washington with small tweaks, but the fact is he keeps going back to what he knows, he's stubborn, that's the problem, it's not that he doesn't have the players or the injuries are affecting him installing his defense, it's his not wanting to do it,​

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against Washington goes high pressure, he goes right back against Denver and plays scared what he runs looks to me too much like a prevent defense I know cover two, cover 3 can look like that but literally when you're not manufacturing pressure If you don't have the right guys that is what gets you fired in this league and maybe not during the year, but he won't be here next year if he doesn't at least make the best of what he has.​

He literally played zone 75% of the time against the Denver Broncos, literally only ran out 3 man sets in the first 3/4, from what I understand ,and then he played the 4th quarter mostly in man, it was too late.... I don't care if you want to run a hybrid or whatever you want to do split man zone even if you want to play some zone you need to do it with an aggressive front what he did against Washington may not work against every team, but it's better than what he trotted out against the Broncos and the Panthers playing way off and still getting beat, you're getting beat at every level ,you might as well at least try to be aggressive.

Period end of story.

By the way that goes for the offensive coordinator from here on out What we saw him trying to have confidence in his defense I want to see them play aggressive on that side of the ball like we have no defense like scoring on every possession is necessary and you need to play like that no punting on 4th and 5 or under Just don't punt play the analytics there are a lot of aggressive coordinators out there that do that anyway but in this case we did not have the defense to be playing safe offense if anything you need to stay on the field as long as possible even pass up some field goal attempts and try to go for it and be aggressive and and actually try to score more you know throw the ball into the end zone...

rant over
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[Ranching]

You had this a 6-2 defense, bro.

Stay wrong.

It's Halloween and some just like to throw things out there to stir things up. Chumming the water and watching the the gullible, eat. You know what I mean.

 

[Cmac]

I didn't think I'd write this......but Eberflus is being asked to make a 5-star meal with pork & beans and vienna sausages.

 

[blueblood70]

It's Halloween and some just like to throw things out there to stir things up. Chumming the water and watching the the gullible, eat. You know what I mean.

Well, that's why I have him on ignore but The OPS. Suggestion I don't think it's been done very often or ever to have a first-year coach fired mid-season I mean it's a whole new coaching staff and I'm not sure there's even a precedent set that you would fire a coach mid-season in his first year..

I understand the frustration, and it is Halloween and I could tell you this the only thing scary is Kyler Murray coming back to AT&T Where he's never lost in high school college or the pros and destroy this scary in a bad way defense...

It's going to be a slaughter, It could be some blood involved, So yeah, it's a hard not to want the guy fired, but I understand I don't think it's ever been done before, or it's going to help anything except make fans feel better.

I just don't understand how the head coach can't tell the defensive coordinator Run aggressive style defenses from here on in more man more blitzing or you will be fired before the end of the season... It is time for threats because the cowboys have no room for error they might be mathematically in it but things need to get fixed fast and if you can't stop the run who cares play a Dan Quinn style use these players where they're a little bit more comfortable whether it works or not at least you're trying we'll have something to hang our heads on blitz twist stunts bring guys from all over just make it uncomfortable for the other offense for once...

I mean a lot of these teams that we're seeing have very similar offenses with a mobile quarterback a solid run game and they just keep coming at the Cowboys the same and yet the defense has changed week in and week out and not for the better they find a little something and they go right back to soft...

I mean I know he won't say that out loud but behind the scenes something like this must be going on because it can't be allowed to have a game against Washington where they did play aggressive and then the next week it goes soft again just play aggressive until the end of the year you're not going to get anywhere playing cover three prevent defenses most of the games it's not working....

 

[G2]

I miss Al Harris.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Show me an example just in the last five years ,if not 10 years that any 1st year defensive coordinator was fired after eight games, because you're pointing out that it's Jerry, show me the rest of the NFL who are willing to fire a brand new coach in the middle of the season for no reason other than it's not working??

you know IF he didn't get arrested or do something illegal or detrimental to the team, you know outside the team, you know what I'm talking about, i'm not even going to go there ,but it would have to be something really bad.

Some coaches have been fired mid-season but this typically after three years of mediocrity and then they can't deal with it anymore because they realize mid-season it's not working, they did it with Wade Phillips here, but it doesn't happen very often, if not at all show me another team who after hiring a brand new coaching staff including a new defensive coordinator that has literally turned around after eight games and fired that person..

So, before you call Jerry a stubborn old fool you might want to have some examples of how other teams are willing to do that and how is it really helping other than Making fans feel better?

I mean we realize that he's inconsistent in running a lot of man and pressure exotic fronts you know blitzes stunts twists but maybe they need to force him to do it threaten his job and see if he'll do it but we have seen him do it the second half of the Eagles game the Jets game the Washington game,

I do not understand how he keeps reverting back to this prevent style cover 3 and zone type defenses that are not working, I get it ,I get the frustration, but I believe they're going to give him a chance to fix it ,up until the bye week and then they'll have some talks ,but I don't know of any other team that's ever fired a 1st year coach/coordinator over performance only issues..

In 1978, the Rams fired the HC of the team during his very first preseason; like he never coached a game for them. It lit a fire and the team went 12-4

Nathaniel Hackett, Urban Meyer, and Frank Reich were all fired during their first seasons.

If you want Coordinators specifically…..

2021, OC after 8 games
https://www.nfl.com/news/lions-oc-anthony-lynn-losing-play-calling-dates-demotion-dan-campbell

This is after game 12 of his first season as DC
https://www.fieldgulls.com/2023/12/...rdinator-matt-patricia-seahawks-game-nfl-news

Rams made the playoffs that year for the first example. Jags made a big turnaround and made the playoffs the following year. Lions made a big turnaround and had a winning record the following year, and the. Have been one of the NFC’s best the last 3. Denver rebounded the following season and has had a winning record the last 2. Might be AFC #1 seed this year. Philadelphia finished 11-6 and then won the SB the following year. Carolina it didn’t work out then or since, but that’s Carolina.

 

[Jipper]

you dont fire a coordinator half way through the first season - that doesnt build any type of cohesion.

He has had 1 draft, likely needs 2 more to have the right talent + FA's to even be able to run his scheme.

Simply not enough time...the knee jerk reaction is to want to get rid of all of them, but the reality is that it will only make things worse right now. The smarter bet is to play through, evaluate, maybe make a change in the offseason but make sure to get the young guys to develop as much as possible. Putting a new coordinator in mid season doesnt do that.

 

[Ranching]

I miss Al Harris.

Yep, he was my choice. Former head coaches don't make good assistants. They can't let go of the ability to do things his way and not follow orders.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

We are at 3 DC's in 3 years. That make it 4 in 4 years.

Considering the injuries, bad players and players that don't fit his system, I'm not sure what we can make of him yet.

Well, I mean, isn’t it a pretty bad look for a coach to keep forcing players who don’t work in a particular scheme, into that scheme? A good coach is adaptable.

I would expect any coach to have a below average defense with this trash roster, but Eberflus is not showing me any creativity or even interest in trying something new to achieve a different result.

That’s my issue with him. Blitz more, play more man, take players like Sam Williams and Murray off the field, do something.

 

[John813]

My issue is, say Matt survives till 2026. Do we retool the defense in his image? Allow him to get a big say in the draft for the players he wants?

If the defense is still cheeks in 26, do they still rock with Matt? Or do they can him, and then hire another DC with a different mindset on how to scheme the players?

I get the defense has had injuries, and in waves at times. However, the confusion and busted coverages IMO shouldn't be like this in the professional level at the rate they've had.
No player is ever in the right spot 100% of the time. But we've seen Williams and Murray just be late, wrong reads, wrong gap to maintain etc but yet they still play.

 

[blueblood70]

Yep, he was my choice. Former head coaches don't make good assistants. They can't let go of the ability to do things his way and not follow orders.

That's cool and all but isn't Al Harris still a positional coach in some ways or you see the DC over there from what I know, no..

I mean if they didn't make him the DC how do you think he would do as ADC are you guaranteeing his success I mean you guys throwing out names I think I'd rather have a guy like Brian Flores who was fired and probably has a chip on his shoulder because it wasn't his fault that what went on over there in Miami as you can see... Was done wrong and he runs great defenses That's who was my first choice but none of our choices as fan base means they would have been more successful here in the same circumstances lots of injuries fact that Parsons got traded away A and you're still waiting on the pieces.

Even Mike Zimmer last year he took him about eight or nine games and it started to turn around even though it didn't finish great in the rankings we saw it lots more sacks and turnovers on the back end of the year but it was too late because Prescott was already gone but in this case it's more damning because we have an offense that can score and win most games if you hold teams under 27 points Cowboys are probably going to win those all of them.....

I just want to remind you folks that you could throw any name you want out that doesn't make it a fact that it would have been any better...

That's the thing even the Eagles one year hired two new coordinators and then fired them the next year and now they have a guy at least on defense they live with the fact that he's aggressive a lot and that you can get burned sometimes but I'd rather have aggression than soft that's the problem with this particular coordinator he wants to run a soft defense that's totally dependent on superstars you need a front that's so good that they can get pressure and impact the game with four down lineman and then playing his own where you allow players to get yards the bend don't break thing and that's just something I've never been a fan of giving up easy yards underneath all game I mean not in this day and age where field goals have become easier I mean these guys with the legs they have now it only takes like 2 1st downs and you can get three points..

This particular scheme and coordinator would have been something I would have never chosen had I known that he is so stubborn and he doesn't want to run man unless he has to he doesn't want to get aggressive up front unless he has to you know I think it's a crime to put a 5th man down on the line and play a little bit more aggressively but he won't do it that's the problem I never saw that coming I thought all defensive coordinators can run any defense Look at what you got see what you can work with and then design a scheme that works..

 

[blueblood70]

Well, I mean, isn’t it a pretty bad look for a coach to keep forcing players who don’t work in a particular scheme, into that scheme? A good coach is adaptable.

I would expect any coach to have a below average defense with this trash roster, but Eberflus is not showing me any creativity or even interest in trying something new to achieve a different result.

That’s my issue with him. Blitz more, play more man, take players like Sam Williams and Murray off the field, do something.

Yes that's where we were fooled you would think that in the first year when you don't have enough pieces to run your particular scheme and do it well that you would have a backup plan a hybrid defenses use the players to their benefits not to yours forcing the square peg into round holes not working I didn't know that Matt was this stubborn that he didn't want to play much man at all doesn't want to bring a 5th man down the box doesn't want to run any exotic twists stunts and all that because when he has it's been looked a lot better and yet the next week goes right back to this soft **** prevent defense look...

Yeah I was fooled II knew Matt wasn't gonna be a coordinator that can build a championship defense but I thought for sure he'd be able to take what we had and at least find something that worked well enough find an identity do something well we all know Dan Quinns the same way His defenses can't stop the run and if you play a physical team against him run the ball a lot run at them a lot that you can expose them and probably win the games the better teams beat Dan Quinn's defenses but at least he had an identity he was gonna bring pressure he was gonna try to create turnovers and he will make up for some of the other weaknesses and that at least wins you most games that you should win like against the Bears and the Panthers it's understandable you're gonna lose sometimes on the road to a team like Denver but there's no excuses for not beating the Panthers and the Bears.. That is something Dan Quinn did well he was able to create defenses and expose and eat the weak LOL

 

[charron]

Firing Eberflub does nothing unless 2 things follow.

1. Schotty as head coach should hire who he wants.
2. The guy Shotty hires better not be from the same stupid defensive tree as the monty kiffen, marinelli, everflub tree who likes small guys who can't tackle. These are all guys jerry has hired often before he hires the HC.

 

[Ranching]

That's cool and all but isn't Al Harris still a positional coach in some ways or you see the DC over there from what I know, no..

I mean if they didn't make him the DC how do you think he would do as ADC are you guaranteeing his success I mean you guys throwing out names I think I'd rather have a guy like Brian Flores who was fired and probably has a chip on his shoulder because it wasn't his fault that what went on over there in Miami as you can see... Was done wrong and he runs great defenses That's who was my first choice but none of our choices as fan base means they would have been more successful here in the same circumstances lots of injuries fact that Parsons got traded away A and you're still waiting on the pieces.

Even Mike Zimmer last year he took him about eight or nine games and it started to turn around even though it didn't finish great in the rankings we saw it lots more sacks and turnovers on the back end of the year but it was too late because Prescott was already gone but in this case it's more damning because we have an offense that can score and win most games if you hold teams under 27 points Cowboys are probably going to win those all of them.....

I just want to remind you folks that you could throw any name you want out that doesn't make it a fact that it would have been any better...

That's the thing even the Eagles one year hired two new coordinators and then fired them the next year and now they have a guy at least on defense they live with the fact that he's aggressive a lot and that you can get burned sometimes but I'd rather have aggression than soft that's the problem with this particular coordinator he wants to run a soft defense that's totally dependent on superstars you need a front that's so good that they can get pressure and impact the game with four down lineman and then playing his own where you allow players to get yards the bend don't break thing and that's just something I've never been a fan of giving up easy yards underneath all game I mean not in this day and age where field goals have become easier I mean these guys with the legs they have now it only takes like 2 1st downs and you can get three points..

This particular scheme and coordinator would have been something I would have never chosen had I known that he is so stubborn and he doesn't want to run man unless he has to he doesn't want to get aggressive up front unless he has to you know I think it's a crime to put a 5th man down on the line and play a little bit more aggressively but he won't do it that's the problem I never saw that coming I thought all defensive coordinators can run any defense Look at what you got see what you can work with and then design a scheme that works..

Al would have been a great choice. He has the tools, he may be a position coach by choice. I don't know...

 

[shabazz]

Yeah, the one thing we do know is his Inconsistencies with what defense to use...

if he doesn't have the right players then stop changing the defense every week,​

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I don't want to hear about game plans and the opponents, they're all doing the same thing to this defense ...​

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why is it that you can be ultra aggressive against Washington, play better in the second half against Philadelphia, and for 3/4 dominate the Jets, and I realize their differences in the teams and when we face them, but why not just run that kind of aggressive defense the rest of the year no matter what,​

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bring five guys onto the line, bring the safeties and linebackers it closer to the line of scrimmage, and do what you did against Washington with small tweaks, but the fact is he keeps going back to what he knows, he's stubborn, that's the problem, it's not that he doesn't have the players or the injuries are affecting him installing his defense, it's his not wanting to do it,​

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against Washington goes high pressure, he goes right back against Denver and plays scared what he runs looks to me too much like a prevent defense I know cover two, cover 3 can look like that but literally when you're not manufacturing pressure If you don't have the right guys that is what gets you fired in this league and maybe not during the year, but he won't be here next year if he doesn't at least make the best of what he has.​

He literally played zone 75% of the time against the Denver Broncos, literally only ran out 3 man sets in the first 3/4, from what I understand ,and then he played the 4th quarter mostly in man, it was too late.... I don't care if you want to run a hybrid or whatever you want to do split man zone even if you want to play some zone you need to do it with an aggressive front what he did against Washington may not work against every team, but it's better than what he trotted out against the Broncos and the Panthers playing way off and still getting beat, you're getting beat at every level ,you might as well at least try to be aggressive.

Period end of story.

By the way that goes for the offensive coordinator from here on out What we saw him trying to have confidence in his defense I want to see them play aggressive on that side of the ball like we have no defense like scoring on every possession is necessary and you need to play like that no punting on 4th and 5 or under Just don't punt play the analytics there are a lot of aggressive coordinators out there that do that anyway but in this case we did not have the defense to be playing safe offense if anything you need to stay on the field as long as possible even pass up some field goal attempts and try to go for it and be aggressive and and actually try to score more you know throw the ball into the end zone...

rant over
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Or to sum this up in 4 simple words; "ain't nobody going nowhere"