Fire this coach! Fire that coach!

That seems to be the solution because many feel this team is underachieving for the talent level and I partially agree, they should be 6-3 with a win over NYJ.

The majority of the blame goes to Garrett, and I can't argue that he's not a great HC and not really even good as a sideline coach, with a little left over for Marinelli but what seems to be missing are the real culprits in this crime, if you really think this team is the most talented in the NFC.

What about the players? The missed blocks and tackles, the basic fundamentals of the game. All off season, I asked that you keep in mind execution when evaluating Young Kellen and that also applies to Marinelli and Richard.

Put yourself in any coach's shoes on this team. The GM keeps the HC around for his own comfort level, if the Joneses insinuate there's an issue it's more coaching than the players and in fact make excuses for them and every player on that team knows who they really play for because he's around all the time to remind them of that. They don't see their coach as the spokesperson of the team as the other 31 teams do, they see the guy that signs their checks. The guy that doesn't hold them accountable.

Add to this all of these talk shows calling for Garrett's head and who conveniently slides out of view? The players. Just as they did back when that "reliable source" stuff with Werder was going on. A very convenient attention diversion from one of the real problems, player execution and mental mistakes.

I still do not think Garrett gets his ticket punched on the 3:10 to Yuma but if he does, there will be much celebration here that the wicked witch is dead but is he the real wicked witch? Think he's the one enabling and excusing players not doing their jobs?
You hit the mark :hammer:
Some of us been saying this for a long time.
There will be no magical solution with the way this organization structured .
you can change players , change staff .change coaches ,shift blame at anyone you want and still the issue will be there
It is JJ and his sons( they are too involved.)
 
I've surpassed this dilemma.....we need a complete coaching enema, fire em all.....bring in a real head coach and let him assemble his own staff........totally different concept for this organization.
 
That seems to be the solution because many feel this team is underachieving for the talent level and I partially agree, they should be 6-3 with a win over NYJ.

The majority of the blame goes to Garrett, and I can't argue that he's not a great HC and not really even good as a sideline coach, with a little left over for Marinelli but what seems to be missing are the real culprits in this crime, if you really think this team is the most talented in the NFC.

What about the players? The missed blocks and tackles, the basic fundamentals of the game. All off season, I asked that you keep in mind execution when evaluating Young Kellen and that also applies to Marinelli and Richard.

Put yourself in any coach's shoes on this team. The GM keeps the HC around for his own comfort level, if the Joneses insinuate there's an issue it's more coaching than the players and in fact make excuses for them and every player on that team knows who they really play for because he's around all the time to remind them of that. They don't see their coach as the spokesperson of the team as the other 31 teams do, they see the guy that signs their checks. The guy that doesn't hold them accountable.

Add to this all of these talk shows calling for Garrett's head and who conveniently slides out of view? The players. Just as they did back when that "reliable source" stuff with Werder was going on. A very convenient attention diversion from one of the real problems, player execution and mental mistakes.

I still do not think Garrett gets his ticket punched on the 3:10 to Yuma but if he does, there will be much celebration here that the wicked witch is dead but is he the real wicked witch? Think he's the one enabling and excusing players not doing their jobs?

Yes, a 9 year history of similar situations with completely different players and the same results says it is the coaching and not the players. I honestly believe the little bit of success the Cowboys have had (winning records and playoff appearances has been despite Garrett, not because of him). Stop making excuses for his failed leadership. Garrett needs to be fired.
 
I've surpassed this dilemma.....we need a complete coaching enema, fire em all.....bring in a real head coach and let him assemble his own staff........totally different concept for this organization.
Ron brother the new coach will end up like the old coach.
 
Jerry being GM, his ego and lust for money are the real culprit. He keeps us just good enough to keep that $$$ rolling in and built a great stadium to keep people happy.

In the meantime, he's chillin' on his $250Mill Yacht, drinking Johnnie Walker Blue, and laughing at all of us.
 
That seems to be the solution because many feel this team is underachieving for the talent level and I partially agree, they should be 6-3 with a win over NYJ.

The majority of the blame goes to Garrett, and I can't argue that he's not a great HC and not really even good as a sideline coach, with a little left over for Marinelli but what seems to be missing are the real culprits in this crime, if you really think this team is the most talented in the NFC.

What about the players? The missed blocks and tackles, the basic fundamentals of the game. All off season, I asked that you keep in mind execution when evaluating Young Kellen and that also applies to Marinelli and Richard.

Put yourself in any coach's shoes on this team. The GM keeps the HC around for his own comfort level, if the Joneses insinuate there's an issue it's more coaching than the players and in fact make excuses for them and every player on that team knows who they really play for because he's around all the time to remind them of that. They don't see their coach as the spokesperson of the team as the other 31 teams do, they see the guy that signs their checks. The guy that doesn't hold them accountable.

Add to this all of these talk shows calling for Garrett's head and who conveniently slides out of view? The players. Just as they did back when that "reliable source" stuff with Werder was going on. A very convenient attention diversion from one of the real problems, player execution and mental mistakes.

I still do not think Garrett gets his ticket punched on the 3:10 to Yuma but if he does, there will be much celebration here that the wicked witch is dead but is he the real wicked witch? Think he's the one enabling and excusing players not doing their jobs?

Hes not a good coach and coaching matters. He had more than enough time and has proven over and over he can only take us so far.

Doesn't matter what players we've had. Be it Romo or Dak, Garrett cant capitalize.
 
jimmy and bill had no problem calling out a player who wasn't giving his all. (re: asthma field) when has garrett ever done this? the firing of garrett would be tantamount to the rapture for the players.
cern, do you think Garrett has anywhere near the power that Jimmy and Bill had? Why do we thing Parcells wouldn't take the job without total control?

I think there are two issues here, coaching acumen and coaching power. I think the players know where Garrett is on the coaching power part and has very little, he couldn't make a lineup change without checking with the Joneses and they know that. The coaching acumen is really the question here and how much belief do they have in him? We can only speculate but this latest simmering fiasco with Austin and the fair catch could have easily been handled with the truth about telling him to fair catch it. If the truth is they didn't have complete confidence in Austin not to fumble the ball away and the game away, they can't really be forthcoming with that.
 
I am sick and tired of Garrett and I have been for years. I was calling for him to be gone before the season and then after the losses early this season. He has to go. He should have been gone. With him, we stand no chance and I believe that it is too late to change the outcome of this season. Another season with a lot of talent gone up in smoke. Lets not talk about who else is to blame. We see ineptitude at the helm..........is that not enough for you?

Enough, axe him now. I don't care if there is a HC. We need his influence out of that locker room and off of that side line. Let the the ACs guide the team for the rest of the year.

I CANNOT tolerate the waste of talent we have seen on this team.

I am at a point that I will simply not watch this team as long as Garrett is the HC. Why? Frustrate myself. I stopped watching early in 3rd quarter because I knew we were going to lose. With him at the helm we stand no chance. We could take a third of the coaches in this league and they would exceed Garrett's performance easily.

I'm done. I officially surrender.
J, I agree, I am just tired and worn down from this entire situation and am ready for chancge, even if it's not an improvement. Surely, there's another HC out there that can suck as bad as Garrett.
 
Any head coach in Dallas is really just a special teams coach anywhere else.

The Joneses run the locker room. Not the head coach.
 
I think we just want to see accountability. If you fire the special teams coach, at least that sends some kind of message that what you do on sunday matters.

All these guys might be losing their jobs anyway if this team doesn't make a dent in the playoffs.
I think that's the real fear with fans here, change isn't coming regardless of what happens.

ac, what if the real reason they told Austin to fair catch it was a lack of trust in a player known to turn the ball over on punt returns? I've got to assume the Vikings ST guys knew that as well and would have been going for the ball.
 
I'm done with Garrett and Jones for keeping him in control. In one single game, I was convinced the coaching is not up to the challenge.

In the first half, we were a defensive player short with 10 players. How is an entire coaching staff so UNAWARE to not call a timeout?
We had THREE timeouts!!!!!
We didn't use ONE of them in the first half. That is unexceptionable!
The Vikings gained an easy 30 yards, and then we got penalized for another 15 yards.
A simple timeout makes all of that mess go away. Not to mention the Vikings scored a TD on that drive.

Secondly, early in the first quarter, they went for a risky and long FG. Shocker! Maher missed it.
I would understand trying at the end of the game, that makes sense.
But early? Seriously? All it did was put our defense in a garbage spot!

I'm tired of the coaching always abandoning what is working. We've seen it in the past. We run all over them and they try getting cute and blow a handful of drive-killing passes.
Vikings game, the opposite. Prescott was throwing on them all day long. The run game was not working. So instead of making the defense beat the pass, we try running more when all they did was shut it down.

We didn't run the ball for a SINGLE first down! Wrap your head around that.

I won't get into the end of the game, that speaks for itself.
 
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I've surpassed this dilemma.....we need a complete coaching enema, fire em all.....bring in a real head coach and let him assemble his own staff........totally different concept for this organization.
How likely is that to happen. The last time Booger did that, he needed cred to get that stadium deal done and he was miserable being out of the spotlight.

There's a phrase that gets used a lot and I cannot think of a more appropriate application than this team. "It is what it is". I accepted that some time back or I would have found another team but in doing so I lost something, my passion. I can't place all of the blame on Booger because I've matured, like that better than aged but I dig that in my whiskey, wine, chees and meat, and that's had an effect as well. But I am just resigned to this being the same ole same ole regardless of what HC they bring in.
 
Of course it all comes down to the Jones's ....... But they are not going anywhere for at least another 20 years ........ Best we can hope for is a coach who is good enough to win in spite of them ...... And that is not this current staff.
20 years? Hell even the kids have grandkids. 200 years from now Jerry Jones the 8th will be giving interviews that appear in your head through computer implants!
 
I think that's the real fear with fans here, change isn't coming regardless of what happens.

ac, what if the real reason they told Austin to fair catch it was a lack of trust in a player known to turn the ball over on punt returns? I've got to assume the Vikings ST guys knew that as well and would have been going for the ball.

So, the better plan was to fair catch, throw two 5 yard passes, and then go for the hail mary? Our best chance was for Austin to return the ball and MN was giving it to us as they stayed back to protect the punt. Coaching matters. Its little dumb errors like this one that add up over the course of a game.
 

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