First Take on Dez

[Toruk_Makto]

franchise him for the next two years and then see how Romo is holding up after those 2 years, if Romo is done, they won't have anyone to throw to Dez

Right? A young qb wouldn't benefit from throwing to a 28 year old Dez.... Oh wait. That's not true.

 

[T-RO]

Right? A young qb wouldn't benefit from throwing to a 28 year old Dez.... Oh wait. That's not true.

We don't have much data to go on, but we do have some.

Dez played one game in '14 with a young understudy. How did that work out? Was Dez a security blanket for such a QB? Here are the numbers when Brandon Wheeden tried to team with Dez:

Targeted 10 times
2 receptions
15 yards

Wow that's not good.

And as I recall (vaguely) Dez wasn't the most patient and supportive of guys with a young mediocre quarterback.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

We don't have much data to go on, but we do have some.

Dez played one game in '14 with a young understudy. How did that work out? Was Dez a security blanket for such a QB? Here are the numbers when Brandon Wheeden tried to team with Dez:

Targeted 10 times
2 receptions
15 yards

Wow that's not good.

And as I recall (vaguely) Dez wasn't the most patient and supportive of guys with a young mediocre quarterback.

A) Small sample size.

B) Weeden is not young.

C) Weeden isn't being groomed as a qb of the future (a guy presumably with talent)

D) Would Weeden have performed better without Dez?

Case in point? Look at AJ Dalton's splits with and without A.J. Green.

 

[T-RO]

A) Small sample size.

B) Weeden is not young.

C) Weeden isn't being groomed as a qb of the future (a guy presumably with talent)

D) Would Weeden have performed better without Dez?

Case in point? Look at AJ Dalton's splits with and without A.J. Green.

I already volunteered that we don't have much data to drive conclusions and I'm not going to try to conclude a lot from one game. But I suggest it's easy to see how Dez *could easily* be a challenging personality for a young rookie quarterback. Impatient, Demanding, etc.

I tend to agree with a previous poster who suggested we might best be cautious with a longterm contract for DB w/Romo near the end.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I already volunteered that we don't have much data to drive conclusions and I'm not going to try to conclude a lot from one game. But I suggest it's easy to see how Dez *could easily* be a challenging personality for a young rookie quarterback. Impatient, Demanding, etc.

I tend to agree with a previous poster who suggested we might best be cautious with a longterm contract for DB.

Yup. If he's willing to scream at Romo I can't imagine what a young QB would go through.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I'm torn on this one. I love Dez but WR just isn't that valuable of a position. Especially for a Cap strapped team like the Cowboys.

You can't be serious... Dez is the fuel of that offense.

 

[yimyammer]

Right? A young qb wouldn't benefit from throwing to a 28 year old Dez.... Oh wait. That's not true.

Didn't says that, I'm suggesting having no franchise QB might change how one might allocate resources and I like having flexibility

Having said that, this would require close to 30 million in guaranteed salary so I'd prefer the team work out a long term deal vs risking Dez not responding to being franchised well

 

[Stryker44]

are you talking about yesterday's segment when they basically said that dez deserved as much money, if not more than CJ?

that was pretty ridiculous, I had to turn it off halfway through. The CJ contract and the fitzgerald contract were mistakes. I think dez deserves to paid like an elite, somewhere in the 12-13 APY range, with ~30 million guaranteed, but CJ money is bordering on elite qb money and that's just mindboggling to me. (15 APY, 50 million guaranteed)

CJ is unstoppable though.,