Fish: Cowboys QB Change Behind Dak Prescott Means Exploring Top 7 Options

Bobhaze said:
One of the biggest mistakes we all make as fans is watching a player at a blue-blood program like Texas, Alabama, Ohio State, etc who looks great because he is completely surrounded by first round talent. At the very least that talent makes their job a lot easier.

Anyway be careful about falling in love with guys that look good on highlight reels but have four first round picks blocking for them.
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I saw every K-St start for Howard. Yes he had some OL guy named Beebe and some RB guy named Deuce that was almost impossible to tackle. But K-St won't be mistaken for a blue blood school and Howard had one hell of a career there.
 
Howard won't be there on day 3 either. Anyone who thinks he will be is dreaming. I may be wrong, but I doubt he makes it to the Cowboys 2nd pick.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Not a mistake as Fisher says. This is a great opportunity of the FO does this right.

It may force them to address the QB of the future. They will need to remove their heads form a deep place though.

Draft a QB within the 1st 3 rounds. Do not rely upon Grier.
The other option is to bring Lance back. Give him a real opportunity to win the back up pos.

However we know how this team operates.
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I’m all for getting a QB but not in top 2 rounds. We have too many holes to not use those to fix holes. Honestly I’d draft a QB in any draft mid rounds and give him a couple years, then do it again. It’s low cost and if you hit on one, high reward. If not just keep churning them
 
Exploring top 7 options. No they aren't. Cooper wasn't lighting the world on fire but he was the best option. We know they won't bring in a guy that fans could ask to compete with Dak, so they'll go super cheap and unproven or they could just draft a guy. I'd personally look for a mobile QB in the draft as they can give you some juice if Dak does go down.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Not a mistake as Fisher says. This is a great opportunity of the FO does this right.

It may force them to address the QB of the future. They will need to remove their heads form a deep place though.

Draft a QB within the 1st 3 rounds. Do not rely upon Grier.
The other option is to bring Lance back. Give him a real opportunity to win the back up pos.

However we know how this team operates.
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That can't happen and won't happen we have too many holes to fill to get a quarterback that high the best thing I can think of is package some of your later round picks and move back into the 4th and get a quarterback that's the best thing I can see I mean we got Prescott in the fourth Tom Brady went 6 Brock Purdy went last in the draft we've seen undrafted free agents workout so there's no need to do it in the first 3 rounds unless they plan on moving down a lot or maneuvering up and down through the whole draft trying to work their way into more quality picks you know less picks.

But as the draft sits with no maneuvering, they're going to end up picking one in the fifth or sixth round or later and people are not going to like it but there have been some Hall of Fame quarterbacks that have come late or not drafted at all.. I know it increases your chances that's what I'm saying maybe they have a targeted one that could come available in the 4th and make them have to scramble to move back up and get him....
 
Depending how the draft goes, I can see them getting a QB in the 4th or one of the picks in the 5th. But this is only if they've addressed other needs.
 
blueblood70 said:
That can't happen and won't happen we have too many holes to fill to get a quarterback that high the best thing I can think of is package some of your later round picks and move back into the 4th and get a quarterback that's the best thing I can see I mean we got Prescott in the fourth Tom Brady went 6 Brock Purdy went last in the draft we've seen undrafted free agents workout so there's no need to do it in the first 3 rounds unless they plan on moving down a lot or maneuvering up and down through the whole draft trying to work their way into more quality picks you know less picks.

But as the draft sits with no maneuvering, they're going to end up picking one in the fifth or sixth round or later and people are not going to like it but there have been some Hall of Fame quarterbacks that have come late or not drafted at all.. I know it increases your chances that's what I'm saying maybe they have a targeted one that could come available in the 4th and make them have to scramble to move back up and get him....
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You can’t rely on getting lucky like that with late round picks all the time.

That was Jerry and Son problem. They think the hit on Romo as an UDFA, then thought they hit on Dak in the 4th. Which was really like a late 5th, with the added comp picks.

Yes both did well, but not in the playoffs.
I don’t want them to get a QB in the late rounds and tell us how they stole him.

If they take one in the 4th, make it in the top 5 in that round.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Not a mistake as Fisher says. This is a great opportunity of the FO does this right.

It may force them to address the QB of the future. They will need to remove their heads form a deep place though.

Draft a QB within the 1st 3 rounds. Do not rely upon Grier.
The other option is to bring Lance back. Give him a real opportunity to win the back up pos.

However we know how this team operates.
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Taking a day 2 QB in a weak class is a major waste of resources
 
Whoever it ends up being ....... it will be someone worse than Rush ....... He was to much of a threat to Dak, It will be someone who loses all the games when DaK gets hurt again.
 
sunalsorises said:
I hope this doesn't mean Sanders in round 2.
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Sanders RD 2 is a huge steal - you think Dak is better than Sanders? Dak is getting older and regressing and you have someone who can potentially show up in front of the bright lights. Shadeur coming out is a better prospect than Dak was and probably has a higher floor even right now if you factor in Dak's immobility.
 
I am going to hype up Tommy Mellott from Montana State again, for the 5th time.

Tommy is a raw, 6’0 QB who played at Montana State in a super gimmicky offense that makes him hard to scout.

But he has an elastic arm that can make throws on the run and at weird angles. His pocket presence needs work, but he has it. He’s smart. He threw for 36 TDs and 2 INTs last year. He runs a freaking 4.42 if not faster. He is one of the best running QBs I have ever seen. He has a nose for the end zone and knows when to tuck and run.

2:23. 8:34. 12:00. 14:22. 14:58.



Those are NFL caliber throws. That’s what I’m looking for in a college QB. He can be had in the later rounds of the draft due to his height and the fact he needs refinement.

But I’d love to see what the kid can do in a fast paced, RPO system that features a lot of quick passes over the middle and a strong running game. That is his bread and butter.
 
youngjerryjones said:
Sanders RD 2 is a huge steal - you think Dak is better than Sanders? Dak is getting older and regressing and you have someone who can potentially show up in front of the bright lights. Shadeur coming out is a better prospect than Dak was and probably has a higher floor even right now if you factor in Dak's immobility.
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Regardless of who is better, picking any QB in the second round only gives the club 4 years of control as opposed to having a fifth year option. Dak's contract essentially puts him on the team for the next 3-4 years. Picking a QB in the second round is a waste of a resource. It's an even bigger waste when the team has to give him a new deal before he really takes the field.
 
DoctorChicken said:
I am going to hype up Tommy Mellott from Montana State again, for the 5th time.

Tommy is a raw, 6’0 QB who played at Montana State in a super gimmicky offense that makes him hard to scout.

But he has an elastic arm that can make throws on the run and at weird angles. His pocket presence needs work, but he has it. He’s smart. He threw for 36 TDs and 2 INTs last year. He runs a freaking 4.42 if not faster. He is one of the best running QBs I have ever seen. He has a nose for the end zone and knows when to tuck and run.

2:23. 8:34. 12:00. 14:22. 14:58.



Those are NFL caliber throws. That’s what I’m looking for in a college QB. He can be had in the later rounds of the draft due to his height and the fact he needs refinement.

But I’d love to see what the kid can do in a fast paced, RPO system that features a lot of quick passes over the middle and a strong running game. That is his bread and butter.
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Good read. Where do you see him being drafted?
 
DoctorChicken said:
I am going to hype up Tommy Mellott from Montana State again, for the 5th time.

Tommy is a raw, 6’0 QB who played at Montana State in a super gimmicky offense that makes him hard to scout.

But he has an elastic arm that can make throws on the run and at weird angles. His pocket presence needs work, but he has it. He’s smart. He threw for 36 TDs and 2 INTs last year. He runs a freaking 4.42 if not faster. He is one of the best running QBs I have ever seen. He has a nose for the end zone and knows when to tuck and run.

2:23. 8:34. 12:00. 14:22. 14:58.



Those are NFL caliber throws. That’s what I’m looking for in a college QB. He can be had in the later rounds of the draft due to his height and the fact he needs refinement.

But I’d love to see what the kid can do in a fast paced, RPO system that features a lot of quick passes over the middle and a strong running game. That is his bread and butter.
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Very nice post man.
Definitely not familiar with this guy but totally agree with all your logic concerning why he could or should be picked in a later round.
Good stuff bro.
 
jazzcat22 said:
You can’t rely on getting lucky like that with late round picks all the time.

That was Jerry and Son problem. They think the hit on Romo as an UDFA, then thought they hit on Dak in the 4th. Which was really like a late 5th, with the added comp picks.

Yes both did well, but not in the playoffs.
I don’t want them to get a QB in the late rounds and tell us how they stole him.

If they take one in the 4th, make it in the top 5 in that round.
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Come on man you mean relying on getting lucky in the first round that's what teams are doing why do you think they trade three first round picks to get a trade Lance or they draft a Carson wentz or worse Johnny Manziel I mean there's probably 14 of them I can listen I don't feel like it I got a headache right now too much screen time today you know what I mean it's just as big a crapshoot in the first round of this is the fourth round.. It's not getting lucky if they do their research and see a guy in the fourth or fifth round that should have been a third rounder just like guys in the first round should have been 5th rounders they're reaching all over for quarterbacks is the point..

I understand what you're saying but you get what I'm saying right I mean it seems to be just as hard to find one in the first round unless you're in the top three of the draft and even then it's not an exact science but that's the best chance you have to pick one you have to be in the top three when the last time the Cowboys done that when they picked the zeke early at 4? But at that time they didn't need a quarterback that they knew of they had Romo they picked Prescott in the 4th I'm not even sure who went in that draft in 2016..

That's all I'm saying I think they have just a bigger chance in this particular draw define one in the fourth or fifth round as they would the third I don't see the difference there's gonna be some of them that were on their board ranked at say 1/3 rounder and he's still there in the 4th or 5th it's about the board it's about how they rated them how the scouts much like Tyler Smith didn't seem to be on a lot of people's boards and they try to convince you he was their top choice on their board and nobody believed it you remember Jerry with the piece of paper well you know what they were right.

So if they have a quarterback it's a big if rated higher and he happens to fall into the fourth round you need to move up and get him or he's there in the fifth round it's not relying on them to get lucky this is the way the draft works it's why guys like Prescott went in the 4th or Russell Wilson went in the third or Tom Brady went in the 5th or pretty went in the seventh because it's not an exact science... And I don't remember the whole story in 2016 but apparently Prescott had a shot to be a late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder but the DUI or DWI dropped him down so it's not like they got lucky that he was good they got lucky he was there in the 4th..
 
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