Fish: Major trade for backup QB hinted by Stephen Jones

[Rayman70]

Winning cures all, even of the ilk of the Jones boys.

 

[fivetwos]

I actually like Milton and his potential upside, but WHY trade high capital for a guy whose contract is going to expire a year before Daks does, and the same year you can realistically part ways with Dak?

What are they hoping happens? Milton needs to play, and unless Dak gets hurt, he doesn’t…and even at that point he isn’t a reliable backup, he is much closer to a project, and much like the Lance trade, I don’t see how it could work in their favor unless some really bad things happen otherwise.

Nothing at ALL wrong with trying to find Daks successor, but get the timing at least sort of right.

Think about it….the only way the Lance trade made sense is if you had him at least one more season and your intention all along was to move on from him after last year.

Dak actually DID get hurt and they end up playing Rush instead because they wanted to win as many games as they could. Would that not be the case with Milton?

Jeez if anything just bring Lance back in, but I suppose they didn’t realize he couldn’t play until Jerry gave up a fourth for him.

What a mess.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I actually like Milton and his potential upside, but WHY trade high capital for a guy whose contract is going to expire a year before Daks does, and the same year you can realistically part ways with Dak?

What are they hoping happens? Milton needs to play, and unless Dak gets hurt, he doesn’t…and even at that point he isn’t a reliable backup, he is much closer to a project, and much like the Lance trade, I don’t see how it could work in their favor unless some really bad things happen otherwise.

Nothing at ALL wrong with trying to find Daks successor, but get the timing at least sort of right.

Think about it….the only way the Lance trade made sense is if you had him at least one more season and your intention all along was to move on from him after last year.

Dak actually DID get hurt and they end up playing Rush instead because they wanted to win as many games as they could. Would that not be the case with Milton?

Jeez if anything just bring Lance back in, but I suppose they didn’t realize he couldn’t play until Jerry gave up a fourth for him.

What a mess.

Yeah its like they didn't just learn their lesson from the Trey Lance trade. I'm all for taking a low risk flier on a guy to develop but there is no reason to spend significant draft capital on a guy you can't get on the field.

The only thing that really would justify it to me is if they are just not confident that Dak can stay healthy for a full season so QB2 becomes a massive need, which I could see as a realistic scenario.

 

[jazzcat22]

Maybe Stephen has gas. Then let's it out for all to smell like "Fish".
Then we get a rotten feeling something bad is about to happen.

 

[Rayman70]

I actually like Milton and his potential upside, but WHY trade high capital for a guy whose contract is going to expire a year before Daks does, and the same year you can realistically part ways with Dak?

What are they hoping happens? Milton needs to play, and unless Dak gets hurt, he doesn’t…and even at that point he isn’t a reliable backup, he is much closer to a project, and much like the Lance trade, I don’t see how it could work in their favor unless some really bad things happen otherwise.

Nothing at ALL wrong with trying to find Daks successor, but get the timing at least sort of right.

Think about it….the only way the Lance trade made sense is if you had him at least one more season and your intention all along was to move on from him after last year.

Dak actually DID get hurt and they end up playing Rush instead because they wanted to win as many games as they could. Would that not be the case with Milton?

Jeez if anything just bring Lance back in, but I suppose they didn’t realize he couldn’t play until Jerry gave up a fourth for him.

What a mess.

Well said.
We are watching clown world in action.

 

[jazzcat22]

I actually like Milton and his potential upside, but WHY trade high capital for a guy whose contract is going to expire a year before Daks does, and the same year you can realistically part ways with Dak?

Jeez if anything just bring Lance back in, but I suppose they didn’t realize he couldn’t play until Jerry gave up a fourth for him.

What a mess.

Yes, waste a pick as in Lance (hindsight) when they could have kept Lance.
But maybe Lance wants no part of Dallas, as they wasted 2 years of his development. Because it would be another 2 years sitting doing nothing.

 

[Nova]

Don't trade for a back-up you moron.

An insurance policy for a roster that isn't going anywhere is stupid.

Use those resources instead to correct the roster.

 

[Rayman70]

Maybe Stephen has gas. Then let's it out for all to smell like "Fish".
Then we get a rotten feeling something bad is about to happen.

I think most of us fans, especially the ones that been fans the longest, have developed a form of bi polar syndrome and we are all over the spectrum lol. One minute we are talking ourselves into buying in, the next minute reality hits us. The fans that have just got here have a form of Stockholm Syndrome. They think what they been seeing the last few years is normal lol.

 

[fivetwos]

Yeah its like they didn't just learn their lesson from the Trey Lance trade. I'm all for taking a low risk flier on a guy to develop but there is no reason to spend significant draft capital on a guy you can't get on the field.

The only thing that really would justify it to me is if they are just not confident that Dak can stay healthy for a full season so QB2 becomes a massive need, which I could see as a realistic scenario.

Right but even if Dak is gone on the earlier side, are they going to take a different approach than last year and not claim that they can win more games with Grier?

Let’s say they actually play Milton and he balls out, you’re still not able to get out from under the Dak deal. I guess that’s a good problem but again it’ll depend on Milton getting reps, and if you’re not in a full rebuild…..meh I dunno. Timing is off….and if they liked Milton so much, they should have drafted him last year.

From NEs perspective, if they don’t get at least a third they may as well just hang on to him as a hedge bet against Maye.

I’m getting a little too worked up over it lol. It may not even be about Milton, but why TRADE for a backup QB when there are plenty out there? If you want a developmental guy, fine, but his contract expires before Daks does and may not see the field at all between now and then. Grrrrrr…..

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Yeah its like they didn't just learn their lesson from the Trey Lance trade. I'm all for taking a low risk flier on a guy to develop but there is no reason to spend significant draft capital on a guy you can't get on the field.

The only thing that really would justify it to me is if they are just not confident that Dak can stay healthy for a full season so QB2 becomes a massive need, which I could see as a realistic scenario.

Just did a little research ..........Milton could be one a few others under consideration
* Milton
* Sam Howell
* Hendon Hooker
* Spencer Rattler
* Tyson Bagent ( wildcard ) ......this kid is the Bears' backup, meaning Eberflus knows him very well. His college career stats and records are like a HOFer (lol). Reminds me of Romo's college career with a ton of records.

Either way, these are some other young QBs they could consider going after via trade. Of the list, they know Sam Howell very well.

 

[fivetwos]

Don't trade for a back-up you moron.

An insurance policy for a roster that isn't going anywhere is stupid.

Use those resources instead to correct the roster.

Exactly right, but I don’t at all believe the kings of misevaluation have a realistic view as to where this roster actually is.

They do NOT need a high end backup (let alone trade away the only shots you have to draft impact starters for it) and it’s too soon to bring in Daks successor.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Right but even if Dak is gone on the earlier side, are they going to take a different approach than last year and not claim that they can win more games with Grier?

Let’s say they actually play Milton and he balls out, you’re still not able to get out from under the Dak deal. I guess that’s a good problem but again it’ll depend on Milton getting reps, and if you’re not in a full rebuild…..meh I dunno. Timing is off….and if they liked Milton so much, they should have drafted him last year.

From NEs perspective, if they don’t get at least a third they may as well just hang on to him as a hedge bet against Maye.

I’m getting a little too worked up over it lol. It may not even be about Milton, but why TRADE for a backup QB when there are plenty out there? If you want a developmental guy, fine, but his contract expires before Daks does and may not see the field at all between now and then. Grrrrrr…..

I'm with you, i'm just trying to make some sense out of whatever they are planning. No matter how they spin it it really isnt a good move to spend a 3rd rounder, a fairly high one at that on a player you can't pencil into your starting lineup. Even if they really like Milton he is a guy who will either need a big contract when they are ready to move on from Dak, or he just walks the same way Trey Lance did this year.

I think they are just at a point where they have to do something at QB2. Wil Grier is not a realistic answer if your goal is to compete for anything. Grier should not be counted on as anything more than an emergency option at this point. They need to do something at backup QB, I just hope it isnt using a 3rd round pick, and if it is at least go get a guy that will come with a full rookie contract attached to him.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Just did a little research ..........Milton could be one a few others under consideration
* Milton
* Sam Howell
* Hendon Hooker
* Spencer Rattler
* Tyson Bagent ( wildcard ) ......this kid is the Bears' backup, meaning Eberflus knows him very well. His college career stats and records are like a HOFer (lol). Reminds me of Romo's college career with a ton of records.

Either way, these are some other young QBs they could consider going after via trade. Of the list, they know Sam Howell very well.

I'd welcome any of those guys as well...I just hope its for a 5th round pick and not a 3rd.

 

[Rayman70]

Just did a little research ..........Milton could be one a few others under consideration
* Milton
* Sam Howell
* Hendon Hooker
* Spencer Rattler
* Tyson Bagent ( wildcard ) ......this kid is the Bears' backup, meaning Eberflus knows him very well. His college career stats and records are like a HOFer (lol). Reminds me of Romo's college career with a ton of records.

Either way, these are some other young QBs they could consider going after via trade. Of the list, they know Sam Howell very well.

Howell or Rattler yes please.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Don't trade for a back-up you moron.

An insurance policy for a roster that isn't going anywhere is stupid.

Use those resources instead to correct the roster.

My only guess is they realize Prescott is not the guy, and are hoping they can trade for a project that can eventually be equally as good as him. I think that’s what they wanted to do with Lance.

If they really just wanted a backup, they could sign someone like Wentz or Keenum of Bridgewater or… take your pick of veteran.

Then potentially wanting to trade for a young(ish), raw, big-armed QB like Milton is telling.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Howell or Rattler yes please.

Howell would def be interesting .......

Check out this cheat sheet of NFL backup QBs

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-backup-qbs-for-2024-season-after-roster-cuts

 

[thunderpimp91]

My only guess is they realize Prescott is not the guy, and are hoping they can trade for a project that can eventually be equally as good as him. I think that’s what they wanted to do with Lance.

If they really just wanted a backup, they could sign someone like Wentz or Keenum of Bridgewater or… take your pick of veteran.

Then potentially wanting to trade for a young(ish), raw, big-armed QB like Milton is telling.

I think this is the issue with their roster building and cap management strategy. They are looking for a cheaper contract at backup QB so they can roll over as much extra cap space as possible for 2026. Even Cooper Rush was not in the budget this year. It sounds like they would rather lose a draft pick in order to save get a guy on a rookie deal for 1/3rd of the price of a veteran backup.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Just did a little research ..........Milton could be one a few others under consideration
* Milton
* Sam Howell
* Hendon Hooker
* Spencer Rattler
* Tyson Bagent ( wildcard ) ......this kid is the Bears' backup, meaning Eberflus knows him very well. His college career stats and records are like a HOFer (lol). Reminds me of Romo's college career with a ton of records.

Either way, these are some other young QBs they could consider going after via trade. Of the list, they know Sam Howell very well.

Howell would be a good backup but that should be his ceiling.

Milton is the one that has starter potential. He is a 6’5 240lb+ QB that can make any throw on the field. He literally has Josh Allen level arm strength.

If you’re giving up resources for a QB, at least use them on the guy that has an elite, ridiculously strong arm. He could be a starter in this league if he gets more accurate and consistent.

 

[fivetwos]

I'm with you, i'm just trying to make some sense out of whatever they are planning. No matter how they spin it it really isnt a good move to spend a 3rd rounder, a fairly high one at that on a player you can't pencil into your starting lineup. Even if they really like Milton he is a guy who will either need a big contract when they are ready to move on from Dak, or he just walks the same way Trey Lance did this year.

I think they are just at a point where they have to do something at QB2. Wil Grier is not a realistic answer if your goal is to compete for anything. Grier should not be counted on as anything more than an emergency option at this point. They need to do something at backup QB, I just hope it isnt using a 3rd round pick, and if it is at least go get a guy that will come with a full rookie contract attached to him.

Gotcha. I’m just not on board with trading any type of pick for a backup QB. If Dak goes down, the season is toast. He went down early last year and they won seven games. Would anyone have cared if it was five, or eight? No.

I’m all for “planning for life without Dak,” as Stevie publicly claimed they didnt do as they were negotiating…..so maybe it’s a reaction to the criticism they took over that, but I just don’t see how trying to find Daks successor NOW makes much sense at all.

Jeez even if they draft that player themselves this year, he would be a FA at the same time Daks deal expires. Milton is already a year in. There’s no window to take even slight advantage of the QB rookie deal, so, like Lance….you either pay him or lose him.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I think this is the issue with their roster building and cap management strategy. They are looking for a cheaper contract at backup QB so they can roll over as much extra cap space as possible for 2026. Even Cooper Rush was not in the budget this year. It sounds like they would rather lose a draft pick in order to save get a guy on a rookie deal for 1/3rd of the price of a veteran backup.

Yeah, and Jerry has already said they’re planning on drafting a QB this year.

If they were hellbent on spending a 3rd round pick on a QB, I’d be totally fine if they traded for Milton instead, because this draft class is really bad for QBs. After Ward, every prospect has some sort of big question mark.