Flacco to be highest paid QB; so what's Romo worth

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UncFelix28;5013405 said:
Yes I understand this point, but do you honestly think a John Kitna type QB can lead this offense with the offensive line's mediocre to terrible run/pass blocking down the field consistently enough where they are ranked higher in points per game?

He did in 2010!

You would be amazed how much better off we would be with Kyle Orton.

The ball would be moved decisively down the field!Murray would score more TD!The defense would create more turnovers!The team would have more grit!Witten might even score 10 td!Dez Bryant-Miles-Harris would be an unbelivable trio!Hanna would be used!JaSON Garrett would be a better play caller!Jerry Jones would be a better owner and talent evaluator!The OL would no longer be hung out to dry!
 

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I hope Romo gets to see the market..... It would be good to see him with a decent defense and o line.

I wonder what all these guys will say when he goes to the cardinals for 130 mil and two firsts and were still in last place and hes winning SBs....

He deserves it.

All the hate he takes.
 

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ROUSH8692;5013491 said:
I hope Romo gets to see the market..... It would be good to see him with a decent defense and o line.

I wonder what all these guys will say when he goes to the cardinals for 130 mil and two firsts and were still in last place and hes winning SBs....

He deserves it.

All the hate he takes.

1. Romo has had decent offensive lines and defenses in the past.

2. NO team will pay Romo $130 million. That's ridiculous; and what is this talk of "two firsts"? What are you referring to exactly?

3. Romo is not the missing piece to the puzzle for any team. Any team willing to shell out big money for him has deeper issues to deal with.
 

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DatWin;5013630 said:
1. Romo has had decent offensive lines and defenses in the past.

2. NO team will pay Romo $130 million. That's ridiculous; and what is this talk of "two firsts"? What are you referring to exactly?

3. Romo is not the missing piece to the puzzle for any team. Any team willing to shell out big money for him has deeper issues to deal with.

Well an AFC offensive coordinator said Romo would be the highest paid QB in the NFL if he was a free agent, considering Alex Smith was traded for basically a late 1st this yr (pick 33) and a 2nd next yr and Romo is 1000 times better.

So is this offensive coordinator lying? Why would he do that?
 

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Beast_from_East;5013635 said:
Well an AFC offensive coordinator said Romo would be the highest paid QB in the NFL if he was a free agent, considering Alex Smith was traded for basically a late 1st this yr (pick 33) and a 2nd next yr and Romo is 1000 times better.

So is this offensive coordinator lying? Why would he do that?

Maybe he felt that way in his own mind, but it's not objective, scientific fact that Romo would have been paid any amount of money or traded for anyone or anything; it's all conjecture.

Tony is going to be 33 when the new season starts, which isn't terribly old but it's not the way that teams are going to want to build their team. Teams are able to find almost instant success with first year QBs and the QB youth movement is the way most of the bottom teams are going right now. People around here thought that Romo could have been the missing piece for the 49ers and take them to the Super Bowl. Well, they went to the Super Bowl without him and they have a very promising QB for the future. There isn't one team out there who is "Tony Romo" away from winning a championship and I'm sorry, but he doesn't have the resume to warrant the highest salary in the NFL.

I'll eat crow if a team is desperate enough to throw that kind of money at Romo, but until then I just don't see it happening. He's a good QB, but he isn't Peyton Manning; teams shouldn't, and in my opinion, won't put all their eggs in Tony Romo's basket.
 

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DatWin;5013640 said:
Maybe he felt that way in his own mind, but it's not objective, scientific fact that Romo would have been paid any amount of money or traded for anyone or anything; it's all conjecture.

Tony is going to be 33 when the new season starts, which isn't terribly old but it's not the way that teams are going to want to build their team. Teams are able to find almost instant success with first year QBs and the QB youth movement is the way most of the bottom teams are going right now. People around here thought that Romo could have been the missing piece for the 49ers and take them to the Super Bowl. Well, they went to the Super Bowl without him and they have a very promising QB for the future. There isn't one team out there who is "Tony Romo" away from winning a championship and I'm sorry, but he doesn't have the resume to warrant the highest salary in the NFL.

I'll eat crow if a team is desperate enough to throw that kind of money at Romo, but until then I just don't see it happening. He's a good QB, but he isn't Peyton Manning; teams shouldn't, and in my opinion, won't put all their eggs in Tony Romo's basket.

I agree that he will not be the highest paid QB, but Nick Eatman on Cowboys Break said he is hearing 17 million a yr on an extension for Romo.

If the contract is for 6 yrs (the longest contract allowed by the CBA for prorating signing bounus if I remember correctly), then we are looking at $102 million over 6 yrs.

Not a bad contract for an old man.:D
 

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Gameover;5013416 said:
He did in 2010!

You would be amazed how much better off we would be with Kyle Orton.

The ball would be moved decisively down the field!Murray would score more TD!The defense would create more turnovers!The team would have more grit!Witten might even score 10 td!Dez Bryant-Miles-Harris would be an unbelivable trio!Hanna would be used!JaSON Garrett would be a better play caller!Jerry Jones would be a better owner and talent evaluator!The OL would no longer be hung out to dry!

sad thing is he actually believes this
 

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burmafrd;5013733 said:
sad thing is he actually believes this

Not only do I believe it, I know it's true!

That's why its frustrating to watch us throw away season after season with this guy.

#depressing
 

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Gameover;5013826 said:
Not only do I believe it, I know it's true!

That's why its frustrating to watch us throw away season after season with this guy.

#depressing

I want some of what you are smoking
 
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DatWin;5013630 said:
1. Romo has had decent offensive lines and defenses in the past.

What a crock, I can only assume you're referencing that stellar OL that got Romo pummeled and got the running game stopped in its tracks against the Vikings and Giants in the playoffs? Yeah, that was lovely.


The saddest part is that represents the pinnacle of our OL play for the past 15+ years.
 

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ESPN.com had an article on Saturday (march 2) describing the very real bust potential of Flacco's deal.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...t-potential?addata=2009_insdr_mod_nfl_xxx_xxx

With Joe Flacco now under contract for the Baltimore Ravens, the big talking point is the money, and it should be. Adam Schefter is reporting the deal comes in at six years and worth $120.6 million, making Flacco the highest-paid player in the league. But does he deserve that distinction?

Based on his overall past performance, it seems clear that Flacco is being vastly overpaid and that his new contract is out of balance with the NFL's QB pay scale. So what does he have to do to justify the contract? Continue to perform as he did this past postseason. Otherwise, Flacco could make some very mediocre quarterbacks look like bargains by comparison.



Right now, Flacco is enjoying something of a Super Bowl honeymoon. Praise and joy have been beamed his way ever since he took his game to another level when it really mattered. But let's not forget that, if it weren't for Denver Broncos safety Rahim Moore making one of the most unfortunate coverage mistakes you're ever likely to see, Flacco doesn't even get to the AFC Championship Game and isn't riding any momentum into his contract negotiations.


Why is that important? Because he needed a strong postseason to wipe out the memories of a horrible regular season.


etc...

It then shows performance-based metrics of all the top QBs and what they should be paid.
Flacco is 19th. Romo is much higher.

it closes saying..
much like Eli Manning ($20.85 million cap hit in 2013) this past season, Flacco could find himself sitting at home watching the playoffs.


Given the Ravens' other personnel needs, we might look back on this contract and realize the Ravens didn't just lock up their franchise quarterback for the long term -- they took a risk that might hurt the team for years to come.
 

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When Romo becomes a Super Bowl QB (win or lose), I say give him to moon, the stars and the sun.
Until then, it is kinda odd (very odd) to include him in the same sentence with Flacco.
Apple and an orange. The Apple brought a Lombardini to Baltimore, the orange brought a lump of coal to us just before he dashed off to the soccer field and the golf course.

What is Romo worth? Give him something commensurate with his only playoff win from 5 years ago.

Do I sound bitter? Yes. But I am a lot better than I was after that last Romo pass to a Commanders defender.
 

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So I guess either Reed and/or Kruger is gone.

I think Romo is what the market was before the Brees deal. Somewhere around 85-90 with maybe 30 or 40 mil guaranteed.
 

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DatWin;5013630 said:
1. Romo has had decent offensive lines and defenses in the past.

2. NO team will pay Romo $130 million. That's ridiculous; and what is this talk of "two firsts"? What are you referring to exactly?

3. Romo is not the missing piece to the puzzle for any team. Any team willing to shell out big money for him has deeper issues to deal with.

Vinnie2u;5013958 said:
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/370654-analyst-cowboys-could-be-open-to-some-tony-romo-trade-scenarios?sct=hp_bf4_a4&eref=sihp

09:51 AM ET 03.03 | NFL analyst Adam Schefter recently joined the Fitzsimmons & Durrett show on KESN-FM 103.3 ESPN Radio. Here are some highlights: On if the Cowboys will consider trading Tony Romo: "Before we trade him, let's say the compensation for Tony Romo is two 1's. I don't think it's that. Maybe it's a 1 and a 3. Robert Griffin III went for basically three 1's and a 2, and I remember having to debate with teams when the Rams were shopping that pick. Well, if you're going to take three 1's and a 2 for an unproven rookie before RGIII proved what he did, wouldn't you rather trade that for someone like Tony Romo? The Cowboys may be interested in doing something like that. Carson Palmer went for a 1 and a 2 that could be a 1. Tony Romo is worth at least that. Let's just say the market is two 1's, who is playing quarterback for the Cowboys? Good luck with that one."

We been debating this offseason if Romo Could be or should be traded.. Doesn't sound like he has any inside info. But 2 #1's.. I'm sold..

Im sorry if Adam Schefter, arguably the most credible football source in the country, agrees with me. Please excuse me if I hold his opinion over yours.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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GimmeTheBall!;5014381 said:
When Romo becomes a Super Bowl QB (win or lose), I say give him to moon, the stars and the sun.
Until then, it is kinda odd (very odd) to include him in the same sentence with Flacco.
Apple and an orange. The Apple brought a Lombardini to Baltimore, the orange brought a lump of coal to us just before he dashed off to the soccer field and the golf course.

What is Romo worth? Give him something commensurate with his only playoff win from 5 years ago.

Do I sound bitter? Yes. But I am a lot better than I was after that last Romo pass to a Commanders defender.

Thats what they said about Flaaco. The question is, whether to risk that Romo won't go all the way this year, because if you thought Flaaco got a lot of money, wait til Romo wins it in a contract year.
 

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ROUSH8692;5014429 said:
Thats what they said about Flaaco. The question is, whether to risk that Romo won't go all the way this year, because if you thought Flaaco got a lot of money, wait til Romo wins it in a contract year.

It will take maybe 3 years to rebuild this team (and it aint easy with jerra around). By that time Romo will be on a fast decline. But that's just MHO.
 

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ROUSH8692;5014413 said:
Im sorry if Adam Schefter, arguably the most credible football source in the country, agrees with me. Please excuse me if I hold his opinion over yours.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How exactly is he agreeing with you? He said the compensation is NOT 2 first round picks and no where in that quote is there anything about $130 million. If there's a team out there who thinks that Romo is the missing piece to their Super Bowl team then by all means, let them fork over those picks, but I don't see it happening.

I'm glad you and Adam Schefter (sort of) think Romo is worth a kings ransom, but there are many more people out there that don't.
 
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