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LT Flozell Adams
Strengths: Stength, size, talent, experience, one of top 5 tackles in NFL.
Negatives: I'll have to get back to you if I think of any.

Flo is in the final year of his contract. It is now the second season since his injury. The talented linemen is set for a huge year. He is one of many Cowboys players glad that the Tuna has left. In my readings around the net many people are wondering about the players being so happy Parcells is gone, and they have a new "players' coach". Fans like me have been happy since the day the Tuna retired. It is a matter of turning the players loose, to score on offense, and to make plays on defense. The Tuna had everyone too reigned in. One of the areas that really hurt is the OL. The too predictable offense really put the OL to the test. When you are pass blocking when everyone knows you are passing, and run blocking when everyone knows you are running, play after play, that is work. Things promise to be different this year, Fun! And Flo is the veteran leader of the Cowboys' Super Huge OL.

LT Adams 6-7 340
LG Kosier 6-5 305
or McQuistan 6-6 315
C Gurode 6-4 312
RG Davis 6-6 366
RT Colombo 6-8 320
or Marten 6-7 309

The Cowboys line is huge, athletic and deep. Adams is a top 5 NFL LT. Gurode is an allstar C. RG Eclipse Davis could be the best RG in the NFC. The other two spots promise to be solid, with big athletic players, competition, and players suited for their positions. Just imagine, the Cowboys OL could be Totaly Awesome. Opposing defenders will be floating around like refugees on rafts. Cowboys players will be zipping around in Go Fast Boats.
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We scored 26ppg last year?

BP was too conservative, but he was able to form the team.

I think Rivera was the weaklink by far last year on the OL.
He was muscled into the backfield numerous times last year.
 

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Gryphon;1510293 said:
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LT Flozell Adams
Strengths: Stength, size, talent, experience, one of top 5 tackles in NFL.
Negatives: I'll have to get back to you if I think of any.

Flo is in the final year of his contract. It is now the second season since his injury. The talented linemen is set for a huge year. He is one of many Cowboys players glad that the Tuna has left. In my readings around the net many people are wondering about the players being so happy Parcells is gone, and they have a new "players' coach". Fans like me have been happy since the day the Tuna retired. It is a matter of turning the players loose, to score on offense, and to make plays on defense. The Tuna had everyone too reigned in. One of the areas that really hurt is the OL. The too predictable offense really put the OL to the test. When you are pass blocking when everyone knows you are passing, and run blocking when everyone knows you are running, play after play, that is work. Things promise to be different this year, Fun! And Flo is the veteran leader of the Cowboys' Super Huge OL.

LT Adams 6-7 340
LG Kosier 6-5 305
or McQuistan 6-6 315
C Gurode 6-4 312
RG Davis 6-6 366
RT Colombo 6-8 320
or Marten 6-7 309

The Cowboys line is huge, athletic and deep. Adams is a top 5 NFL LT. Gurode is an allstar C. RG Eclipse Davis could be the best RG in the NFC. The other two spots promise to be solid, with big athletic players, competition, and players suited for their positions. Just imagine, the Cowboys OL could be Totaly Awesome. Opposing defenders will be floating around like refugees on rafts. Cowboys players will be zipping around in Go Fast Boats.
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That seems a bit rosey but ....................:pray:
 

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Gryphon;1510293 said:
The Cowboys line is huge, athletic and deep.
No question this is our best line since super bowl XXX. Hard to imagine improving the 26 points a game we did last year. But with this line, I believe it is possible.
 

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tunahelper;1510294 said:
We scored 26ppg last year?

BP was too conservative, but he was able to form the team.

I think Rivera was the weaklink by far last year on the OL.
He was muscled into the backfield numerous times last year.
People need to let go of the notion that the offense was fine...how many of those points did we score against the Texans, Falcons, Bucs and Titans of the world? What did we do against the Colts, Eagles, Giants etc...teams that were playoffs teams. We might not average more than 26 points a game next year..but the hope is that we put those kind of numbers up against top tier teams...WITH US DICTATING THE TEMPO. We are past the point of judging ourselves against poor teams...we have the Pats on our schedule next year...early.....let that game be a barometer of where this team is.
 

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bbailey423;1510310 said:
...we have the Pats on our schedule next year...early.....let that game be a barometer of where this team is.
That is week 6 but don't forget we play at Chicago week 3 so we get a serious road test early also.
 

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You also forget OT Doug Free who backs up Flozel at LT. He'a more talented then Marten even tho drafted 1 round later & will be Flozel's successor. It also was very interesting that when Flozel didn't practice on Wednesday (or was it Tuesday?) McQuistan started in his place. Next day I believe Free started at LT.

Sounds to me like the coaches are checking out who looks best behind Flozel at LT--just for the future of course.
 

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This all BPs fault crap is getting real old. As many great players have proven over the years- the players that can PLAY make PLAYS no matter what the system. And a team that scored 425 pts has a real good offense- that is undeniable. Now a TOP offense= no. we will have a better O line and a more experienced QB. So we will be better. It all comes down to our pass rush and how well our new FS plays. Schemes are good=but real PLAYERS make the plays.
 

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bbailey423;1510310 said:
People need to let go of the notion that the offense was fine...how many of those points did we score against the Texans, Falcons, Bucs and Titans of the world? What did we do against the Colts, Eagles, Giants etc...teams that were playoffs teams. We might not average more than 26 points a game next year..but the hope is that we put those kind of numbers up against top tier teams...WITH US DICTATING THE TEMPO. We are past the point of judging ourselves against poor teams...we have the Pats on our schedule next year...early.....let that game be a barometer of where this team is.
Against playoff teams we scored 19 points per game.

Every team has their PPG skewed against non-playoff teams. You'd have to compare our PPG against only playoff teams to every other teams PPG against only playoff teams. I get the feeling 19 PPG would be pretty close to the top in that case.
 

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burmafrd;1510350 said:
This all BPs fault crap is getting real old. As many great players have proven over the years- the players that can PLAY make PLAYS no matter what the system. And a team that scored 425 pts has a real good offense- that is undeniable. Now a TOP offense= no. we will have a better O line and a more experienced QB. So we will be better. It all comes down to our pass rush and how well our new FS plays. Schemes are good=but real PLAYERS make the plays.

I have to agree with this. It is the offseason, and since everyone has high hopes for next season, and our major change is getting rid of BP, so now he is satan.

Hopefully being more aggressive in the pass rush and our safety play will improve. But blaming BP all the time is a bit short-sided, after all, we did really suck before he got here.
 

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Points per game is important, but it is NOT the most important thing. If we were to stay anywhere near the production we had last season, but find that we can actually run the ball in the 4th quarter and put teams away, that will be a huge improvement.

Last year's line couldn't make the short yardage runs on 3rd and 4th down when really needed, and they couldn't keep the ball out of the opposition's hands when really needed in the 4th.

Improved line play doesn't have to mean more points...it could mean more conservativism in the 4th quarter when the OL has worn the defense down and starts running it down their throats...then you don't need to going for so many points down the stretch.
 

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burmafrd;1510350 said:
This all BPs fault crap is getting real old. As many great players have proven over the years- the players that can PLAY make PLAYS no matter what the system. And a team that scored 425 pts has a real good offense- that is undeniable. Now a TOP offense= no. we will have a better O line and a more experienced QB. So we will be better. It all comes down to our pass rush and how well our new FS plays. Schemes are good=but real PLAYERS make the plays.

It is getting a little old. BP might have done some things that many of us disagree with, but it wasn't ALL his fault that we had a mediocre season.

I do think that our DLinemen will be much better in this new scheme, but will they be good enough for us to have an outstanding defense? That's what we've got to wait and see.
 

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wayne motley;1510383 said:
Points per game is important, but it is NOT the most important thing. If we were to stay anywhere near the production we had last season, but find that we can actually run the ball in the 4th quarter and put teams away, that will be a huge improvement.

Last year's line couldn't make the short yardage runs on 3rd and 4th down when really needed, and they couldn't keep the ball out of the opposition's hands when really needed in the 4th.


Improved line play doesn't have to mean more points...it could mean more conservativism in the 4th quarter when the OL has worn the defense down and starts running it down their throats...then you don't need to going for so many points down the stretch.
Wasn't it last year's line that ran out the clock on Indy? Or put the game away against Atlanta? I think they had the capability last year, but were inconsistent. This line should be pretty good with a healthy Flo and Bigg. The only player I worry about is Andre Gurode.
 

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ethiostar;1510295 said:
That seems a bit rosey but ....................:pray:

Not really considering:
1. Flo is now two-years removed from his ACL injury so he should be fully "healed" physically AND mentally.
2. Colombo started all 16 games and his knee held up; continued work w/ strength coach Jurasek should continue to better his game.
3. Davis is a definite upgrade over Rivera.
4. Gurode looks like has finally figured it out; has always had the physical talents but the mental aspects seem to have taken hold.
5. Kosier was solid and I expect, should continue to be solid.

I'm right there w/ you praying, but I don't think we're being too rosey.....
 

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Adams a top 5 LT?

LOL. The only way Adams sniffs top 5 is if he walks up to Walter Jones and huffing in Jones' body order.
 

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5mics;1510427 said:
Not really considering:
1. Flo is now two-years removed from his ACL injury so he should be fully "healed" physically AND mentally.
2. Colombo started all 16 games and his knee held up; continued work w/ strength coach Jurasek should continue to better his game.
3. Davis is a definite upgrade over Rivera.
4. Gurode looks like has finally figured it out; has always had the physical talents but the mental aspects seem to have taken hold.
5. Kosier was solid and I expect, should continue to be solid.

I'm right there w/ you praying, but I don't think we're being too rosey.....

I have no doubt we should be more improved and i expect them to dominate more than they had in the last couple of years. It was just the last two sentences of the original post that got me......

Opposing defenders will be floating around like refugees on rafts. Cowboys players will be zipping around in Go Fast Boats.

I don't expect the OL from the early 90s, just an improved and consistent line. I've already stated, in other threads, my expectation for the running game, especially with the return of the FB in the offense scheme.
 

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theogt;1510398 said:
Wasn't it last year's line that ran out the clock on Indy? Or put the game away against Atlanta? I think they had the capability last year, but were inconsistent. This line should be pretty good with a healthy Flo and Bigg. The only player I worry about is Andre Gurode.

I'm hoping Gurode will be even better in his 2nd year as the starting C, especially with Bigg beside him instead of Rivera. I'm going to guess that Kozier may end up being the weak link...he won't be bad, but I'm guessing he is what he is and that as the line improves, we'll wish we hadn't paid him quite as big a contract as we did.
 

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wayne motley;1510461 said:
I'm hoping Gurode will be even better in his 2nd year as the starting C, especially with Bigg beside him instead of Rivera. I'm going to guess that Kozier may end up being the weak link...he won't be bad, but I'm guessing he is what he is and that as the line improves, we'll wish we hadn't paid him quite as big a contract as we did.
Kosier? 5 yrs 15 mil is a bargain nowadays.

As far as Flozell being top 5. I don't know that I'd rate him that high, but when I look around the league, there aren't many teams who have OLs without question marks at left tackle spot.
 

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Vintage;1510431 said:
Adams a top 5 LT?

LOL. The only way Adams sniffs top 5 is if he walks up to Walter Jones and huffing in Jones' body order.
Sparano thinks otherwise:

“The pressure has always been on Flo for whatever the reason,” Sparano said. “I understand he’s the left tackle (a much-scrutinized position), but this guy is a pretty good player. When you look at left tackles in this league, you have to say this guy is in the top 25, top 15 percent.”
Top 15-25% of LTs (assuming 32) would be top 5-8.

wayne motley;1510461 said:
I'm hoping Gurode will be even better in his 2nd year as the starting C, especially with Bigg beside him instead of Rivera. I'm going to guess that Kozier may end up being the weak link...he won't be bad, but I'm guessing he is what he is and that as the line improves, we'll wish we hadn't paid him quite as big a contract as we did.
In my opinion Gurode was a bigger problem in '06 than Rivera and certainly more so than Kosier. Gurode is absolutely dreadful when it comes to playing in space and on run plays he's required to get to the 2nd level quite a bit. It's actually Gurode's contract that is the albatross (rather than Kosier's) because if Gurode doesn't improve, we should definitely be looking to upgrade the position. Unfortunately, we'll likely be stuck even if he doesn't improve.
 

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Well, I can understand the variance in opinions here.

But it hasn't been too long when we didn't know who the starters were going to be. And the RT situation was pitiful.

When is the last time the majority of people felt the OL was something special? What year and what personnel?
 
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