Football 101: QB's job isn't to overcome a pathetic defense

[Nav22]

Even a $60mil QB? Someone is DESPERATE to save face...

Hahahahahahaha!!

Say, Dak's extension actually LOWERED his cap hit! That made you happy, right?

Just kidding. We know you don't care about what's actually best for the team. You're just broke and jealous.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

you are really funny, in a pathetic way. act like the QB has no impact upon the team as a whole. rest of us will be over here in the real world watching real qb's make real impacts on real teams.

The rest of us are also watching real defenses step up. Even when their QB has thrown a couple of INTs or even when their offense stalls out on some drives. You want to hold Dak to the standards of what other QBs do. So why can't our defense be held to the standards of what other defenses in the NFL do? Those QBs make impacts because their defense steps up in some way.

 

[BoysForLife]

So you're always going to excuse the defense on "Well they don't get paid as much as Dak does. So it's okay if they play badly in every single game."?

I said I am not going to hold them to the same standard as I hold Dak

Was the defense poor yesterday? Yes, they absolutely were.

Was Dak fairly substandard as well? Yes, without a doubt

One of those elements of our team is making more than anybody in the history of the NFL. The other element is a collection of JAGs with a genuine stud or two (Parsons), most of whom are making average money or on a rookie contract

And we can't invest in bringing better players in because we are too busy paying the quarterback Patrick Mahomes money while getting Kirk Cousins performance.

You guys can't have it both ways. You wet the bed with Glee when Prescott "got his".

Well the team is doing with less in other areas so he could get paid. So it's about damn time he started carrying the team instead of his adherents always expecting the team to carry him.

 

[Nav22]

Yeah the score was 28-3 in that game and then the Patriots defense proceeded not to give up anymore points for the rest of the game. And the Patriots won 34-28. So no not even Brady could have overcome and won the Super Bowl had his defense been allowing the Falcons to score on every drive throughout the rest of the game or almost gave up 50 points to the Falcons.

You're right, of course.

Isn't it incredible that you actually felt the need to type that out?

Think about the level of low-IQ windbags we're actually dealing with here. It's unreal.

 

[BoysForLife]

Are you drinking this morning Nav? or are you normally just a dick?

Dumb thread of the day award.

It's option #2, for the record

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Weird...I recall the defense giving up everything to Peyton Manning and yet Tony Romo still kept the team right there.

Odd.

I remember that game. AND....I remember this forum BLAMING Romo because he threw a crucial pick and the Cowboys lost. When a fanbase has it out for somebody....unless that player is PERFECT....this fanbase will place blame at their feet when they don't win.

And for the record...I thought it was ridiculous to criticize Tony after that game...and it was unrealistic to expect him to match Manning TD for TD. You are not ever going to win at a championship level if you need your QB to put up 6 TDs on your first 6 drives to give your team a chance to win.

 

[Brooksey]

You think the plural for "emoji" requires an apostrophe.

Why would I take anything you have to say seriously? Why wouldn't I just point and laugh?

You can't discuss the talking points without insulting people because you're a drunk ...at least you can spell check people from their cell phone in their car doing 70
Wow good for you Nav, I'm sure everyone is so impressed with you (all spelling, caps and apostrophes are disclaimed so gfy)

The job of the QB job is to be a leader, at times to pickup the team on his shoulders and carry them when they play bad.
Dak was not able to pick up his team and get into a shootout, he had an opportunity.
He threw a really bad INT in the 2nd half not to mention many over throws/under throws in the first half that would have resulted in a TD (one to CD and one to Rico) to name a few

 

[McKDaddy]

The rest of us are also watching real defenses step up. Even when their QB has thrown a couple of INTs or even when their offense stalls out on some drives. You want to hold Dak to the standards of what other QBs do. So why can't our defense be held to the standards of what other defenses in the NFL do? Those QBs make impacts because their defense steps up in some way.

or does their defense get a lift because their QB starts holding his own?

not once have I defended the defense yesterday nor that they woulda won even if both sides had gotten going.

but tell me what large comeback has Dak ever made when the other team was still trying to defend him?

 

[acr731]

They put up 16 points on the board in the 1st half.

Now tell me that's not good enough so we can all point and laugh.

What about the 2nd half when they needed more points?

 

[Nav22]

You can't discuss the talking points without insulting people because you're a drunk ...at least you can spell check people from their cell phone in their car doing 70
Wow good for you Nav, I'm sure everyone is so impressed with you (all spelling, caps and apostrophes are disclaimed so gfy)

The job of the QB job is to be a leader, at times to pickup the team on his shoulders and carry them when they play bad.
Dak was not able to pick up his team and get into a shootout, he had an opportunity.
He threw a really bad INT in the 2nd half not to mention many over throws/under throws in the first half that would have resulted in a TD (one to CD and one to Rico) to name a few

"The job of the QB job is to be a leader, at times to pickup the team on his shoulders and carry them when they play bad."

You're simply not educated enough to talk football with me.

Should I point out your latest humiliating English errors? Why didn't you pay attention in elementary school?


Oh, and 16 points in a half is excellent offensive production over here on Earth.

So for at least a half, Dak did his job and then some. The defense didn't give us a chance.

Your problem is you "know football" like you "know English."

 

[Roadtrip635]

I put the blame squarely on the coaching staff for not having the strength to keep these prima-donnas grounded after winning. What happened yesterday is nothing new, it's been going on for years. The Cowboys are recipients of a huge media market and exposure and it's just too easy to get caught up in their own guano. We've only had TWO Head coaches in this team's history that had the gonads to keep grown boys in check. Both got fired by the same owner.

These are professional football players, with just a few exceptions, they are are all pretty equal. In the NFL, you better be mentally prepared or your going to have your butt handed to you.

Make no mistake, this is Jerry's team and he is the biggest of Primadonnas, he has instilled the culture and encourages the circus.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I said I am not going to hold them to the same standard as I hold Dak

Was the defense poor yesterday? Yes, they absolutely were.

Was Dak fairly substandard as well? Yes, without a doubt

One of those elements of our team is making more than anybody in the history of the NFL. The other element is a collection of JAGs with a genuine stud or two (Parsons), most of whom are making average money or on a rookie contract

And we can't invest in bringing better players in because we are too busy paying the quarterback Patrick Mahomes money while getting Kirk Cousins performance.

You guys can't have it both ways. You wet the bed with Glee when Prescott "got his".

Well the team is doing with less in other areas so he could get paid. So it's about damn time he started carrying the team instead of his adherents always expecting the team to carry him.

They don't get paid as much as Dak does. But they surely get paid not to allow a offense to score 35 points in one half of football. And get paid to at least make an opposing offense punt a few times a game. Trying to blame Dak's contract from what the front office refuses to do, yet somehow there are other teams who pay their QBs and still go out to make their team better on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. So I'm not going to blame Dak for how this front office operates and builds rosters.

Now because some want to put all of the blame on Dak for losses like this, you want to blame him and act like Jerry Jones would have opened up his bank account to sign more players in free agency had Dak gone to another team.

I expect Dak to do his part and his job enough to give the Cowboys a chance to win games. I don't blame him when the rest of the team decides they are going to stink it up. And don't make excuses for the rest of the team by saying it's okay for them to play poor football just because they aren't getting paid as much as the QB. And that they decide that they don't have to do their part and it's all on Dak to always carry them when they don't do their jobs. No QB truly carries a team all season long. Because at some point the majority of teams who have won Super Bowls, have had the defensive side of the ball step up and other players on the team contributing and not just the QB. Mahomes had his defense help him win that 3rd Super Bowl. And didn't "carry" them by having to get in shootouts or having a defense that was giving up a bunch of points in the playoff games the Chiefs won.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

or does their defense get a lift because their QB starts holding his own?

not once have I defended the defense yesterday nor that they woulda won even if both sides had gotten going.

but tell me what large comeback has Dak ever made when the other team was still trying to defend him?

Or does the QBs for those teams get a lift because his defense starts to hold their own? See how I can use your logic and claim that Dak decides to not even try for the rest of the game if he sees that the defense is going to give up TD drive after TD drive and not come up with a stop.

Let me know when there has ever been a comeback by any team where the defense allowed 35 points in one half and 50 all game. You're still implying that the defense's mentality is to take zero accountability for how they play in a game and that in their minds they are putting it all on the QB and take no responsibility amongst themselves. In some way you're projecting the defense to be a bunch of player saying "We're going to give up and let them score on every drive, because we don't think Dak can lead us back. "

And are saying that the defense now has it made up in their minds going into each game that they're going to get punched in the mouth and fold, unless Dak scores a certain amount of points all game or the offense plays near perfect football all game long.

 

[SlammedZero]

Man, the Dak fan club is sure desperate to come to his defense. I think that says something in itself.

 

[Brooksey]

"The job of the QB job is to be a leader, at times to pickup the team on his shoulders and carry them when they play bad."

You're simply not educated enough to talk football with me.

Should I point out your latest humiliating English errors? Why didn't you pay attention in elementary school?


Oh, and 16 points in a half is excellent offensive production over here on Earth.

So for at least a half, Dak did his job and then some. The defense didn't give us a chance.

Your problem is you "know football" like you "know English."

please excuse the grammar, in the car JO....didn't u read the disclaimer? Do u know what abbrevs r?
try to stay on point:

16 points isn't bad offense in the 1st half but its not great when the other team has 30. As bad as the defense was... If Dak struck back instead of over throwing Lamb and under throwing Rico,
we're almost tied at half

 

[Havic]

It’s on the defense 100% if dak throws for 350 yards and 3+ TDs but that didn’t happen so yes dak is partially to blame

 

[GINeric]

Jim Kelly is a bad example.

That dude had 21 TDs and 28INTs in the playoffs.

In his 4 Super Bowls he had 2 TDs and 7 INTs.

In his 4 Super Bowl games he threw for 0 TDs in 3 of the games.

He doesn’t help your argument. Instead, he actually hurts is a lot. Because if he, as the QB, didn’t suck in those games they probably win at least 1 of them.

It absolutely helps my argument. I'm told

Jim Kelly is a bad example.

That dude had 21 TDs and 28INTs in the playoffs.

In his 4 Super Bowls he had 2 TDs and 7 INTs.

In his 4 Super Bowl games he threw for 0 TDs in 3 of the games.

He doesn’t help your argument. Instead, he actually hurts is a lot. Because if he, as the QB, didn’t suck in those games they probably win at least 1 of them.

Well I was told some quarterbacks have it and some don’t.

Kelly and Marino couldn't win a Superbowl. Foles and Trent Dilpher won Superbowls. So according to the person I originally responded to... Kelly and Marino didn't have it in them to win it all like Foles and Dilpher did.

It absolutely helped my argument.

 

[TheSport78]

Ironic coming from your ilk.

Be sure to blame Dak if your wife leaves you too!

Offense was very good in the 1st half. The first INT wasn't his fault and they scored 16 points. Averaging 32 PPG would have literally led the NFL last season.

"Atrocious"!

Excuse me? Don't speak of my wife. What is wrong with you?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

When your QB is the highest-paid team-athlete in American Sports some expectations come with it. Nobody is asking Dak to play defense but his inability to hang around or come from behind when the team needs him to is concerning.

one player can not overcome shortcomings of 11 others...the defense was pathetic...the first half the offense scored 16...should be more than good enough to be in a close game. except the saints scored on every opportunity they got in the first half and don't even mention the interception being the cause, becaues they had drives of 70+ yards the other times. they averags almost 12 yards per play in the first half...let that sink in.....Carr had 243 yards passing on 16 attempts!!!

so yeah, your expectations are perfection and that's hard to come by, except when you play the cowboys defense

 

[zrinkill]

I'm not wasting time responding to you after this OP.

Proceeds to respond 25 times in your path.