Football Futures Mock Draft

[FuzzyLumpkins]

count me out...not a Talib fan and dont want an injury prone, coming off surgery spread offense RB either, especially in the 1st rd

David

Oklahoma uses a spread offense and they put out an injury prone RB that seemed to do well in the NFL.

 

[dbair1967]

Oklahoma uses a spread offense and they put out an injury prone RB that seemed to do well in the NFL.

No, they dont...

I'd be surprised if you caan find one video highlight of Peterson running from the spread offense...let alone "all the time" as some of you people suggest

and what did that injury prone guy do last yr by the way? Oh, he got hurt again! missed games! amazing!

David

 

[dbair1967]

Oklahoma uses a spread offense and they put out an injury prone RB that seemed to do well in the NFL.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rJ1xDBT1jM

David

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, they dont...

I'd be surprised if you caan find one video highlight of Peterson running from the spread offense...let alone "all the time" as some of you people suggest

and what did that injury prone guy do last yr by the way? Oh, he got hurt again! missed games! amazing!

David

Yeah cause OU never runs single back muliple receiver formations.....

This week in the Texas-Oklahoma game, you will see Oklahoma in a form of the spread offense. Much of their success will depend on the communication and their ability to run out of a one-back set. However, there is no question that with Jason White out with an injury and Nate Hybl playing quarterback, it limits Oklahoma's productivity in the quarterback run.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1443120.html


they first used it in 2000 with Griffith and Heupel against the Longhorns and won.

 

[Woods]

I'd prefer Cason and Stewart . . . .

And then we can land a WR like E Bennett in the 2nd maybe.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah cause OU never runs single back muliple receiver formations.....



http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1443120.html


they first used it in 2000 with Griffith and Heupel against the Longhorns and won.

what does the year 2000 have to do with Adrian Peterson's use at OU?

David

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rJ1xDBT1jM

David

i counted one play that wasnt on the goalline that had another back with him in the backfield. I saw several singleback and several where the backs and TEs motioned outside the line however which is what a spread offense does.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

what does the year 2000 have to do with Adrian Peterson's use at OU?

David

the aritcle was from 2006 and I was just pointing out that they STARTED using it in 2000.

 

[dbair1967]

i counted one play that wasnt on the goalline that had another back with him in the backfield. I saw several singleback and several where the backs and TEs motioned outside the line however which is what a spread offense does.

dude, either you are just trying to be argumentative or you just dont get it

Adrian Peterson did not run the vast majority of his plays from a spread offense...they were run from a single back or I formation set...he didnt generate his big plays against teams that were spread out all over the field and had huge running lanes created because of it, nor did teams worry about a QB taking off and running the ball

Before Peterson got there, OU ran an offense that was a shotgun based attack, but once he arrived they changed the running game for him

David

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

dude, either you are just trying to be argumentative or you just dont get it

Adrian Peterson did not run the vast majority of his plays from a spread offense...they were run from a single back or I formation set...he didnt generate his big plays against teams that were spread out all over the field and had huge running lanes created because of it, nor did teams worry about a QB taking off and running the ball

Before Peterson got there, OU ran an offense that was a shotgun based attack, but once he arrived they changed the running game for him

David

How am i the one not getting it when:

a) Bob Davie agrees with me and,
b) singleback sets are the hallmark of a spread offense?


It sure doesn't seem like I'm the one that doesn't get it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSKFOfc04Q&feature=related

Here is a highlight video from 2005 of Stewart and of all these runs only 1 comes out of what you would term a spread formation where its shotgun singleback and multiple WR.

In the rest of them the QB is under center. So under your interpretation Oregon doesn't run a spread offense either.

 

[dbair1967]

How am i the one not getting it when:

a) Bob Davie agrees with me and,

Please show me one example of ANYBODY, Davie or whoever that claimed Oklahoma was a spread option team with Peterson there. It doesnt exist

b) singleback sets are the hallmark of a spread offense?

so by your definition, most NFL teams run a spread offense?

no, they dont

I am saying that there have very very few, if ANY examples of an offensive skill position player (especially a QB or RB) who has come into the NFL and had any real success when they've come out of a spread option type offense. Utah runs it, Florida runs it, Texas ran it quite a bit under Vince Young...Va Tech ran it alot with Vick, West Virginia runs it, Oregon runs a version of it..seveal others

Oklahoma since Adrian Peterson was a FR has not run a spread option offense...before he was recruited under Stoops they did run a shotgun offense where there was usually just one back in the backfield, the difference in that and the true spread option offense is the QB is not a/the key runner...I dont how to explain it any plainer than that

David

 

[dbair1967]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSKFOfc04Q&feature=related

Here is a highlight video from 2005 of Stewart and of all these runs only 1 comes out of what you would term a spread formation where its shotgun singleback and multiple WR.

In the rest of them the QB is under center. So under your interpretation Oregon doesn't run a spread offense either.

why dont you post us somethign from the last two years my friend

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Dbair, 2 words for you

Pro Potential

Stewart has it, and had nice production in college, yes, it wasn't ideal, but he's talented and was a productive runner in college

 

[Biggems]

CBs I would rather draft than Talib

DRC, Jenkins, Cason, McKelvin

 

[Big Dakota]

I'd take this draft to the bank!!

 

[Tobal]

CBs I would rather draft than Talib

DRC, Jenkins, Cason, McKelvin

Cason is the only one that will be available, most rate him as a high 2nd round pick.

I like Cason, but he'd likely be there at 28 if Talib is still on the board at 22.

After DRC, Jenkins and Mcklevin it gets pretty murky and very subjective, but those three and many throw Talib seem to be tier 1.

 

[Avery]

I'll take Stewart at #28 and accept Talib at #22 (though I'd put him below DRC/McKelvin/Jenkins).

I'm not all for going WR in round one unless the draft board is that dire and trading down is not an option. I really feel that the 2nd/3rd round will have some pretty decent quality guys still around.

 

[Chuck 54]

Everything I've read suggests Talib has serious toughness issues.

 

[dbair1967]

Dbair, 2 words for you

Pro Potential

Stewart has it, and had nice production in college, yes, it wasn't ideal, but he's talented and was a productive runner in college

I guess we'll see, but the offensive system and all the injury issues, coupled with the toe surgery makes me think it'd be better to pass on him...if it wasnt such a good crop of RB's I might think differently, but he's far from the only one

David