For Dak the stakes are at their highest

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Maybe Jerry meant for it to be this way; one year for all the marbles. If Dak does well this year(meaning helping the Cowboys take the next step in the playoffs) he gets a mega deal next year that resets the quarterback market. If he doesn't, it could ward off any suitors vying for his services in free agency.
And that puts ALL of the pressure on Dak to succeed. If he flops it could cost him as much as $100 million or even more in free agency.
OR, could it be that Jerry knows something else, like maybe the NFL WILL IN FACT put a salary cap on the quarterback position. That could well be the reason the Cowboys have yet to make Dak an offer he is willing to agree to.
For all of the bluster about the money Dak has been offered as of now, no one except Dak and his agent know the terms- other than Stephen and Jerry. There may not be any guarantees and certainly not a no-trade or no-cut clause.
It's very possible that Dak is watching his future hang in limbo in more ways than one, and only a great performance this season will earn him a decent contract to finish his career.
 

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Maybe Jerry meant for it to be this way; one year for all the marbles. If Dak does well this year(meaning helping the Cowboys take the next step in the playoffs) he gets a mega deal next year that resets the quarterback market. If he doesn't, it could ward off any suitors vying for his services in free agency.
And that puts ALL of the pressure on Dak to succeed. If he flops it could cost him as much as $100 million or even more in free agency.
OR, could it be that Jerry knows something else, like maybe the NFL WILL IN FACT put a salary cap on the quarterback position. That could well be the reason the Cowboys have yet to make Dak an offer he is willing to agree to.
For all of the bluster about the money Dak has been offered as of now, no one except Dak and his agent know the terms- other than Stephen and Jerry. There may not be any guarantees and certainly not a no-trade or no-cut clause.
It's very possible that Dak is watching his future hang in limbo in more ways than one, and only a great performance this season will earn him a decent contract to finish his career.
The NFL cannot simply “put a salary cap on the quarterback position”. That would have to be bargained for with the players’ union. So a potential quarterback salary cap is not the reason the Cowboys have not met Dak’s demands. He is apparently looking for something the Cowboys aren’t comfortable committing to. And even if he starts all 17 games for the Cowboys and Dallas goes 0-17 he knows, his agent knows, and Jerry Jones knows, Dak Prescott will be paid tens of millions of dollars to play quarterback in the NFL for many years to come.

No starting quarterback in the NFL is under less pressure than Dak Prescott. His agent has more than earned his 3%.
 

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The NFL cannot simply “put a salary cap on the quarterback position”. That would have to be bargained for with the players’ union. So a potential quarterback salary cap is not the reason the Cowboys have not met Dak’s demands. He is apparently looking for something the Cowboys aren’t comfortable committing to. And even if he starts all 17 games for the Cowboys and Dallas goes 0-17 he knows, his agent knows, and Jerry Jones knows, Dak Prescott will be paid tens of millions of dollars to play quarterback in the NFL for many years to come.

No starting quarterback in the NFL is under less pressure than Dak Prescott. His agent has more than earned his 3%.
Nobody is going to pay Dak big money other than maybe Jerry Jones.

Dak is also old, so "many years to come" isn't in the cards either.
 

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The NFL cannot simply “put a salary cap on the quarterback position”. That would have to be bargained for with the players’ union. So a potential quarterback salary cap is not the reason the Cowboys have not met Dak’s demands. He is apparently looking for something the Cowboys aren’t comfortable committing to. And even if he starts all 17 games for the Cowboys and Dallas goes 0-17 he knows, his agent knows, and Jerry Jones knows, Dak Prescott will be paid tens of millions of dollars to play quarterback in the NFL for many years to come.

No starting quarterback in the NFL is under less pressure than Dak Prescott. His agent has more than earned his 3%.
While what you say about the QB salary cap is true, if Dak and the team goes 0-17 or even 8-8, it’s delusional to think that he’ll get anywhere close to the amount of money other young QBs got and he’s likely seeking now. He’s on the tail end of his career and would’ve failed to improve upon his lousy playoff performances and record.
 

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Nobody is going to pay Dak big money other than maybe Jerry Jones.

Dak is also old, so "many years to come" isn't in the cards either.
I guess it depends on how you define big money - dak will still get at least 40mm a year by someone out there...that's big money...if you are defining as 55 to 60 then he probably wont
 

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Maybe Jerry meant for it to be this way; one year for all the marbles. If Dak does well this year(meaning helping the Cowboys take the next step in the playoffs) he gets a mega deal next year that resets the quarterback market. If he doesn't, it could ward off any suitors vying for his services in free agency.
And that puts ALL of the pressure on Dak to succeed. If he flops it could cost him as much as $100 million or even more in free agency. OR, could it be that Jerry knows something else, like maybe the NFL WILL IN FACT put a salary cap on the quarterback position.


You're assuming too much. In order for Dak to taint his worth in FA, he'd have to have a Russel Wilson type collapse. But if he looks good, even if it's just against crap teams, he's going to get paid by someone.

The owners can try to get a salary cap on the QB position in 2032, or when the CBA is over. I think I got the year right. I don't think Jerry is making any decisions now based on what might happen in 2032.
 

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Unless Dak plays concerning horrific, he’s getting 65m$ next offseason

The Saints put 0 stock into Carr’s fumbled last Raiders season before they signed him, the Falcons didn’t care that Cousins was coming off major injury, the Jets didn’t care that Rodgers sucked in GB, the Colts didn’t mind that Carson Wentz looked like he was burnt toast.

Dak has built up enough credibility that he will get paid
 

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I guess it depends on how you define big money - dak will still get at least 40mm a year by someone out there...that's big money...if you are defining as 55 to 60 then he probably wont
I meant that nobody is going to make Dak the highest paid player, or even QB ever other than maybe Jerry.

Why would they, and who would?

All the playoff teams already have established QBs who are either more accomplished than Dak, younger than Dak, or both.

There are some mids and bottom feeders, but why would they make the worst playoff QB ever into the highest paid player ever, and then kill their caps and plans for the next five years rather than just spend high draft picks on QB blue chippers?

Why would they do this with an old QB looking for his third contract? Dak isn't Brady or Rodgers who both have resumes no one questions. Most non-Cowboys teams actually have the goal of winning the Super Bowl, so signing a guy like Dak, and killing all hope you have of reaching that goal for the next five years makes no logical sense whatsoever.
 

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You're assuming too much. In order for Dak to taint his worth in FA, he'd have to have a Russel Wilson type collapse. But if he looks good, even if it's just against crap teams, he's going to get paid by someone.

The owners can try to get a salary cap on the QB position in 2032, or when the CBA is over. I think I got the year right. I don't think Jerry is making any decisions now based on what might happen in 2032.
He isn't getting paid top dollar by anyone other than Maybe Jerry. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE knows that Dak chokes as soon as the moment is too big.
 

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Unless Dak plays concerning horrific, he’s getting 65m$ next offseason

The Saints put 0 stock into Carr’s fumbled last Raiders season before they signed him, the Falcons didn’t care that Cousins was coming off major injury, the Jets didn’t care that Rodgers sucked in GB, the Colts didn’t mind that Carson Wentz looked like he was burnt toast.

Dak has built up enough credibility that he will get paid
No, he isn't getting 65 million from anyone other than maybe Jerry.
 

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He isn't getting paid top dollar by anyone other than Maybe Jerry. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE knows that Dak chokes as soon as the moment is too big.
For some teams just getting to the playoffs is enough. Somebody will pay what he wants.
 

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Unless Dak plays concerning horrific, he’s getting 65m$ next offseason

The Saints put 0 stock into Carr’s fumbled last Raiders season before they signed him, the Falcons didn’t care that Cousins was coming off major injury, the Jets didn’t care that Rodgers sucked in GB, the Colts didn’t mind that Carson Wentz looked like he was burnt toast.

Dak has built up enough credibility that he will get paid
No he isn't
 

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He isn't getting paid top dollar by anyone other than Maybe Jerry. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE knows that Dak chokes as soon as the moment is too big.
So what? Do you think the Giants paid Jones, and the Cards paid Kyler Murrey because they thought they were going to the SB? They did it because of no other options, and because it was better for business. The time to test Dak's market value would have been in the 2019 off season.

Most players see it as an insult. But if you truly want to see a player's market value, you give him the transition tag. You don't have to give up any picks if you poach a player off of that tag.
 

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We all know how Dak operates when the stakes at at their highest.

Nobody has ever done more when it mattered less.
Dak is getting the reputation that he does indeed choke under pressure.
I seriously doubt any other team would offer him much more than a one year "prove it" deal if he doesn't show more than he has in the past.
He's too old for other teams to see potential; they will only pay if he can deliver immediately.
So far he hasn't.
 

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It is in line with how contracts have gone thus far. It goes up as the cap does
No it isn't.

Last offseason Jackson and Herbert signed for an AAV of $52M. This year the highest guys signed for $55M. Dak isn't getting $65M per next year
 

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Dak is getting the reputation that he does indeed choke under pressure.
I seriously doubt any other team would offer him much more than a one year "prove it" deal if he doesn't show more than he has in the past.
He's too old for other teams to see potential; they will only pay if he can deliver immediately.
So far he hasn't.
Do you really think his stock has gone down by that much? Tell me what Kirk Cousins has done. Other than choke in just about every primetime games he has played. Yet the Falcons just gave him a 4 year 180M dollar contract. That's not a 1 year prove it deal. Don't assume these teams are thinking like you are.
 
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